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Postby Oneracon » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:18 pm

People Who Say Ni wrote:
Ainin wrote:Second Amendment to the Broadcasting Act.

The one that banned ads.

ATN could run w/out ads and still survive off gov't funding.

With the current government's attitude towards ATN, no.

I (somewhat begrudgingly) agree with Ainin that ATNRA was/is needed to allow ATN to limp forward until it can be properly restored.
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:08 pm

Oneracon wrote:
People Who Say Ni wrote:ATN could run w/out ads and still survive off gov't funding.

With the current government's attitude towards ATN, no.

I (somewhat begrudgingly) agree with Ainin that ATNRA was/is needed to allow ATN to limp forward until it can be properly restored.

The only way I ever agree with government funding is underwriting. But under the condition that the company that is owned by the government operates on a business model that bring in revenue. Not just sitting there and wanted its entire budget to be granted to it by the government. I am against that.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:23 am

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
Oneracon wrote:With the current government's attitude towards ATN, no.

I (somewhat begrudgingly) agree with Ainin that ATNRA was/is needed to allow ATN to limp forward until it can be properly restored.

The only way I ever agree with government funding is underwriting. But under the condition that the company that is owned by the government operates on a business model that bring in revenue. Not just sitting there and wanted its entire budget to be granted to it by the government. I am against that.


Quite honesty, I can see how some didn't like ATNRA. However, what I don't understand is that some (both left and right) didn't like ATNRA on how it would fund ATN, but yet voted for SABA, which bans private advertising. That in affect cuts funds from what ATN was originally getting based on the advertisements. So virtually, those some that want to fund ATN basically would of stop funds through all fronts. It's such a huge contradiction. I am currently working on a couple bills. One is almost done (have to modified it based on the current situation) and the other is a very rough draft.
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Postby Oneracon » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:42 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:The only way I ever agree with government funding is underwriting. But under the condition that the company that is owned by the government operates on a business model that bring in revenue. Not just sitting there and wanted its entire budget to be granted to it by the government. I am against that.


Quite honesty, I can see how some didn't like ATNRA. However, what I don't understand is that some (both left and right) didn't like ATNRA on how it would fund ATN, but yet voted for SABA, which bans private advertising. That in affect cuts funds from what ATN was originally getting based on the advertisements. So virtually, those some that want to fund ATN basically would of stop funds through all fronts. It's such a huge contradiction. I am currently working on a couple bills. One is almost done (have to modified it based on the current situation) and the other is a very rough draft.

My replacement for ATNRA is already in the queue.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:46 am

Oneracon wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Quite honesty, I can see how some didn't like ATNRA. However, what I don't understand is that some (both left and right) didn't like ATNRA on how it would fund ATN, but yet voted for SABA, which bans private advertising. That in affect cuts funds from what ATN was originally getting based on the advertisements. So virtually, those some that want to fund ATN basically would of stop funds through all fronts. It's such a huge contradiction. I am currently working on a couple bills. One is almost done (have to modified it based on the current situation) and the other is a very rough draft.

My replacement for ATNRA is already in the queue.


I'm quite well aware of that.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:24 pm

President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:
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To deal with issues pertinent to the Transportation, Agriculture, Education, Research, Telecommunications, and Culture ministries



- Media Rating and Classification Act
-Physical Education and Scholastic Athletics Act


I thought I had done this already, but anyway just 24 hours debate for these bills.
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Postby Haelunor » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:27 pm

I have a concern regarding the Physical Education and Scholastic Actovites Act. It mandates one physical education class a year, but how do those classes compare with other courses? Must they last the same amount of time and have an equal weight on a student's gpa, or will they occur less frequently or for a shorter amount of time and be worth less in terms of gpa?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:03 pm

Haelunor wrote:I have a concern regarding the Physical Education and Scholastic Actovites Act. It mandates one physical education class a year, but how do those classes compare with other courses? Must they last the same amount of time and have an equal weight on a student's gpa, or will they occur less frequently or for a shorter amount of time and be worth less in terms of gpa?


That is a good point because..................... we don't use a GPA system. In fact we don't seem to have an exact system laid out really. Makes me wonder what Brit's curriculum bill is like and maybe I would right a section on that for it if needed.
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Postby Haelunor » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:11 pm

There has to be some sort of standardized system used to evaluate students' performances. Otherwise every school could just invent it's own, and the headaches that would cause would be maddening. If we have no such system, then one needs to be created with all deliberate speed.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:14 pm

Haelunor wrote:There has to be some sort of standardized system used to evaluate students' performances. Otherwise every school could just invent it's own, and the headaches that would cause would be maddening. If we have no such system, then one needs to be created with all deliberate speed.

There might be a grading system in the Aurentine Education Act. Or their national exam scores could be used.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:18 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Haelunor wrote:There has to be some sort of standardized system used to evaluate students' performances. Otherwise every school could just invent it's own, and the headaches that would cause would be maddening. If we have no such system, then one needs to be created with all deliberate speed.

There might be a grading system in the Aurentine Education Act. Or their national exam scores could be used.


That's what it is at the moment. Individual scores in subjects during end of year exams. Though I don't think we have any actual Main qualifications beside this, and there is no real curriculum. Brit is going through stuff for a bill about it at the moment so we shall see what he comes up with.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:19 pm

Is this PE class mandated once a year?
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Postby Haelunor » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:32 pm

The bill should most definitely include a minimum threshold of how many hours schools must set aside for physical education classes each year. The bill in it's current form seems a bit open ended, unless there is a definition of course floating aroundI don't know about.
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:19 am

Yanalia wrote:I think this has enough support for the queue, unless the rules changed?

First Amendment to the Provisional Republican Executive Act
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Category: Senate Procedures

The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

RECOGNISING that votes of no confidence are crucial to keeping the government within the confines of the law and maintaining responsiveness of the government to the popular will as represented by the Senate,

NOTING that the laws governing votes of no confidence currently limit their number to one per term,

BELIEVING that such a provision leaves much room for abuse, as in a potential case in which a government deliberately initiates a vote of no confidence in one of its ministers in order to grant itself a freer hand, among other possible situations,

WISHING to maintain the integrity and purpose of votes of no confidence,

HEREBY enacts the following:

The section of the Provisional Republican Executive Act entitled "Motion of No Confidence" shall be amended as follows: The sentence "Only one vote of no confidence may be held per term" shall be struck out and rendered null and void.


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[spoiler=First Amendment to the Provisional Republican Executive Act][box][size=150]First Amendment to the Provisional Republican Executive Act[/size]
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The Senate of the Aurentine Commonwealth,

RECOGNISING that votes of no confidence are crucial to keeping the government within the confines of the law and maintaining responsiveness of the government to the popular will as represented by the Senate,

NOTING that the laws governing votes of no confidence currently limit their number to one per term,

BELIEVING that such a provision leaves much room for abuse, as in a potential case in which a government deliberately initiates a vote of no confidence in one of its ministers in order to grant itself a freer hand, among other possible situations,

WISHING to maintain the integrity and purpose of votes of no confidence,

HEREBY enacts the following:

The section of the Provisional Republican Executive Act entitled "Motion of No Confidence" shall be amended as follows: The sentence "Only one vote of no confidence may be held per term" shall be struck out and rendered null and void.[/box][/spoiler]
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Postby Oneracon » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:53 pm

If I'm not mistaken, voting is open on the next DD section. We had "24 hours of debate" over 48 hours ago.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:05 pm

Oneracon wrote:If I'm not mistaken, voting is open on the next DD section. We had "24 hours of debate" over 48 hours ago.


No it's not open.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:08 pm

Now it's open. Wait no it's not exactly. It will open at 4am.




OOC: I have been pretty busy the last few days, work and my dads birthday. Though if i'm not around much or seem to not have started a vote you guys can always get Beta as he is the other person with the power to open voting. As PoS he has the exact same powers as myself.
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Postby Dendart » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:05 pm

Media Rating and Classification Act- aye
Physical Education and Scholastic act-nay
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:13 pm

Nay to both for now.
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Postby Ainin » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:17 pm

AYE to both.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:21 pm

Nay to both.
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Postby The State of Czecho-Slovakia » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:30 pm

Media Rating and Classification Act - Nay
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Postby Haelunor » Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:38 pm

Nay to both bills.
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