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Postby New Maldorainia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:05 pm

Lianhua wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:I've heard about the binding of feet; what's up with that anyways? Do Chinese/Japanese people associate small feet with beauty or some such?

Old Chinese practice, yet. They looked at small feet as feminine/refined. Admittedly it was little more than infantilization. :lol:

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Postby Lianhua (Ancient) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:05 pm

DesAnges wrote:I call that 'George', in honour of my friend.

I'm sure he's an interesting person, if you can attribute this to him. cx

Beiluxia wrote:I think they ended this practice towards the end of the Qing or the beginning of the Republic.

By the early 20th century it was already falling out of favor, IIRC. So yes, toward the end of the Qing.
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Postby Stern des Meeres » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:05 pm

Esternial wrote:
Lianhua wrote:At least my mother didn't try and "bind" my feet to keep them small. cx

Ouch. Breaking the bones in your feet definitely isn't a very motherly thing to do.

I read a firsthand account of it last year in history class. No part of it sounded pleasant. It was painful to read.
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Postby Aeken » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:06 pm

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Aeken wrote:I have more. But they're too sexual.

There's a slang word we have here used to describe someone who's had a little too much to drink and start's getting touchy with everybody.

In English, I believe it would be something along the lines of "pussy fingers".

I got some bad search results with that.

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Postby DesAnges » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:06 pm

Lianhua wrote:
DesAnges wrote:I call that 'George', in honour of my friend.

I'm sure he's an interesting person, if you can attribute this to him. cx

He's pretty cool.

New Maldorainia wrote:
Lianhua wrote:Old Chinese practice, yet. They looked at small feet as feminine/refined. Admittedly it was little more than infantilization. :lol:


:hug: Yes, because we know there are fish that glomp each other. cx


I glomp people all the time.

We hadn't noticed. And did you just call yourself a fish?
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Postby Divair » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:06 pm

I no longer feel tired. I no longer feel exhausted. I no longer feel lonely. I no longer feel sadness. I only feel fear. I want my fucking meds, and I hope to fuck that they work. I'm going to go pass out while wishing I didn't have to wake up. Bye.

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Postby Beiluxia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:07 pm

Esternial wrote:
Lianhua wrote:At least my mother didn't try and "bind" my feet to keep them small. cx

Ouch. Breaking the bones in your feet definitely isn't a very motherly thing to do.

I heard they had specialists do it back in the day, since the mothers couldn't bear actually hearing the cries of their daughters... :?

Apparently they also put in shards so that the later-infected flesh would easily fall out, making the feet smaller. Blegh.
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Postby New Maldorainia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:07 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:
Esternial wrote:Ouch. Breaking the bones in your feet definitely isn't a very motherly thing to do.

I read a firsthand account of it last year in history class. No part of it sounded pleasant. It was painful to read.


Yep, and as someone with a degree in history, I have read some horror stories.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki is my Big Sis Grumpy Cat. She calls me Maru.
Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete. ----Rod Serling, from "The Obsolete Man".

Zionist, deal with it.
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Postby Aeken » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:07 pm

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Aeken wrote:I haven't said much about it.
Thats my point

Well, how are you doing?

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Postby Lianhua (Ancient) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:07 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:I read a firsthand account of it last year in history class. No part of it sounded pleasant. It was painful to read.

It was unpleasant, to say the least. There's another version of that where the mother would die rope/string around the child under her clothing so that as she grew older, her body would adjust to the curves.

Esternial wrote:Ouch. Breaking the bones in your feet definitely isn't a very motherly thing to do.

Quite nasty, yes.
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Careful, jack. My patience has limits, unlike my Kung Fuuuuuuuu.. (^~^) - Lian Sifu

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Remember this, and you shall go far.
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Postby Starkiller101 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:08 pm

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Starkiller101 wrote:Thats my point

Well, how are you doing?
I'm doing good I'm getting wifi in my house next week so i will not have to walk to macdnolds everyday/
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Postby Stern des Meeres » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:08 pm

Divair wrote:I no longer feel tired. I no longer feel exhausted. I no longer feel lonely. I no longer feel sadness. I only feel fear. I want my fucking meds, and I hope to fuck that they work. I'm going to go pass out while wishing I didn't have to wake up. Bye.

Good night, Div. Hoping the best for you. <3

New Maldorainia wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:I read a firsthand account of it last year in history class. No part of it sounded pleasant. It was painful to read.


Yep, and as someone with a degree in history, I have read some horror stories.

I had to take my shoes off while I read it because I felt the need to stretch my feet.
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Postby Aeken » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:09 pm

Starkiller101 wrote:
Aeken wrote:Well, how are you doing?
I'm doing good I'm getting wifi in my house next week so i will not have to walk to macdnolds everyday/

Good to hear. :D

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:09 pm

What the fuck Wikipedia (and China, if this turns out to be true) :blink:

Lian, I would like to ask if this is correct?:

Bound feet were once considered intensely erotic in Chinese culture, and a woman with perfect lotus feet was likely to make a more prestigious marriage. Qing Dynasty sex manuals listed 48 different ways of playing with women's bound feet. Some men preferred never to see a woman's bound feet, so they were always concealed within tiny "lotus shoes" and wrappings. Feng Xun is recorded as stating, "If you remove the shoes and bindings, the aesthetic feeling will be destroyed forever"—an indication that men understood that the symbolic erotic fantasy of bound feet did not correspond to its unpleasant physical reality, which was therefore to be kept hidden.[14] The fact that the bound foot was concealed from men's eyes was considered to be sexually appealing. On the other hand, an uncovered foot would also give off a foul odour, as various saprobic microorganisms would colonize the unwashable folds.

For men, the primary erotic effect was a function of the lotus gait, the tiny steps and swaying walk of a woman whose feet had been bound. Women with such deformed feet avoided placing weight on the front of the foot and tended to walk predominantly on their heels. As a result, women who underwent foot-binding walked in a careful, cautious, and unsteady manner.[18] Additionally a common male fantasy was that the unusual gait tended to strengthen the vaginal muscles.[20]

An attribute of a woman with bound feet was the limitation of her mobility, and therefore, her inability to take part in politics, social life and the world. Bound feet rendered women dependent on their families, particularly their men, and became an alluring symbol of chastity and male ownership, since a woman was largely restricted to her home and could not venture far without an escort or the help of watchful servants.[21]
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Postby Stern des Meeres » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:09 pm

Lianhua wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:I read a firsthand account of it last year in history class. No part of it sounded pleasant. It was painful to read.

It was unpleasant, to say the least. There's another version of that where the mother would die rope/string around the child under her clothing so that as she grew older, her body would adjust to the curves.

Wow.
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"bananas"
Esternial wrote:You're a good student, Sterny.

You'll accomplish great things.

Or end up faced down in the gutter, completely wasted.

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Postby Starkiller101 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:09 pm

Aeken wrote:
Starkiller101 wrote:I'm doing good I'm getting wifi in my house next week so i will not have to walk to macdnolds everyday/

Good to hear. :D
Yeah but i like walking
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Postby New Maldorainia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:09 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:
Divair wrote:I no longer feel tired. I no longer feel exhausted. I no longer feel lonely. I no longer feel sadness. I only feel fear. I want my fucking meds, and I hope to fuck that they work. I'm going to go pass out while wishing I didn't have to wake up. Bye.

Good night, Div. Hoping the best for you. <3

New Maldorainia wrote:
Yep, and as someone with a degree in history, I have read some horror stories.

I had to take my shoes off while I read it because I felt the need to stretch my feet.


You never want to read about the Nazi "medical" experiments they conducted on people in the camps.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki is my Big Sis Grumpy Cat. She calls me Maru.
Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete. ----Rod Serling, from "The Obsolete Man".

Zionist, deal with it.
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Postby Aeken » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:10 pm

Starkiller101 wrote:
Aeken wrote:Good to hear. :D
Yeah but i like walking

So it's a bad thing. :p

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Postby Stern des Meeres » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:10 pm

New Maldorainia wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Good night, Div. Hoping the best for you. <3


I had to take my shoes off while I read it because I felt the need to stretch my feet.


You never want to read about the Nazi "medical" experiments they conducted on people in the camps.

I've read of some of them. Sickening.
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You'll accomplish great things.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:10 pm

Beiluxia wrote:
Esternial wrote:Ouch. Breaking the bones in your feet definitely isn't a very motherly thing to do.

I heard they had specialists do it back in the day, since the mothers couldn't bear actually hearing the cries of their daughters... :?

Apparently they also put in shards so that the later-infected flesh would easily fall out, making the feet smaller. Blegh.


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Postby Aeken » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:10 pm

New Maldorainia wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Good night, Div. Hoping the best for you. <3


I had to take my shoes off while I read it because I felt the need to stretch my feet.


You never want to read about the Nazi "medical" experiments they conducted on people in the camps.

No. Not those.

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Postby New Maldorainia » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:10 pm

Stern des Meeres wrote:
New Maldorainia wrote:
You never want to read about the Nazi "medical" experiments they conducted on people in the camps.

I've read of some of them. Sickening.


My mom knew someone who had it performed on her.
The Walrus God of NS (arch-nemesis to Big Jim), plus a really strange Jewish cowboy libertarian conservative (Fusionism) believe in Laissez-faire free trade capitalism. Most people call me Mal, Mald, or Maldo.
Nanatsu no Tsuki is my Big Sis Grumpy Cat. She calls me Maru.
Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete. ----Rod Serling, from "The Obsolete Man".

Zionist, deal with it.
Economic Left/Right: 8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.28
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%
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Postby Meritocratic States » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:11 pm

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Postby Stern des Meeres » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:11 pm

New Maldorainia wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:I've read of some of them. Sickening.


My mom knew someone who had it performed on her.

Damn.
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Other Thafoo wrote:hey stern, you should put this quote into your sig, it'll be fun

"bananas"
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You'll accomplish great things.

Or end up faced down in the gutter, completely wasted.

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Postby Lianhua (Ancient) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:12 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:What the fuck Wikipedia (and China, if this turns out to be true) :blink:

Lian, I would like to ask if this is correct?:

Bound feet were once considered intensely erotic in Chinese culture, and a woman with perfect lotus feet was likely to make a more prestigious marriage. Qing Dynasty sex manuals listed 48 different ways of playing with women's bound feet. Some men preferred never to see a woman's bound feet, so they were always concealed within tiny "lotus shoes" and wrappings. Feng Xun is recorded as stating, "If you remove the shoes and bindings, the aesthetic feeling will be destroyed forever"—an indication that men understood that the symbolic erotic fantasy of bound feet did not correspond to its unpleasant physical reality, which was therefore to be kept hidden.[14] The fact that the bound foot was concealed from men's eyes was considered to be sexually appealing. On the other hand, an uncovered foot would also give off a foul odour, as various saprobic microorganisms would colonize the unwashable folds.

For men, the primary erotic effect was a function of the lotus gait, the tiny steps and swaying walk of a woman whose feet had been bound. Women with such deformed feet avoided placing weight on the front of the foot and tended to walk predominantly on their heels. As a result, women who underwent foot-binding walked in a careful, cautious, and unsteady manner.[18] Additionally a common male fantasy was that the unusual gait tended to strengthen the vaginal muscles.[20]

An attribute of a woman with bound feet was the limitation of her mobility, and therefore, her inability to take part in politics, social life and the world. Bound feet rendered women dependent on their families, particularly their men, and became an alluring symbol of chastity and male ownership, since a woman was largely restricted to her home and could not venture far without an escort or the help of watchful servants.[21]

This is tied to Confucius teachings yes, who believed women ought to partake of no business beyond the household and concern herself with nothing other than her immediate family, helping her husband, her maiden family and her in-laws.

And I've read said Qing Dynasty Sex Manual. It's odd. Japan has something similar too. cx
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Careful, jack. My patience has limits, unlike my Kung Fuuuuuuuu.. (^~^) - Lian Sifu

Resistance is futile if less than one ohm.
Remember this, and you shall go far.
Taoist-Buddhist; apparently retainer and daughter of Divair and Stern des Meeres, and sister to Aeken.

I love you, -New Sealand-! Why so pretty, Chinese lady? <3 RenaxJiao!
Quotes about me go here, because I still want a sig, tyvm. Also, Esternial
ヽ(^Д^)ノ Bee doo bee doo bee doo! ヽ(‘ ∇‘ )ノ

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