Should Canada and the USA Join Together?

[PopularFreedom]

Actually that war was more of a stalemate, we (British North America at the time) lost a major battle in New Orleans in 1815 which is why a ceasefire was signed (though we did have our share of victories especially in the early stages of the war)...

We stole the US president's dinner and burned down his house.

Good enough.

lol yep yep, though was not planning on mentioning that part since how history is taught there pretty sure there is going to be the occasional Yank reading this thread who will be surprised to learn about that...

[Derman Iles]

Hey people, I have some questions for you about what would happen after they joined:

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1: If Canada and America joined together, where would the capital be?

2: If Canada and America joined together, what would be the new countries name?

3: If Canada and America joined together, would American states become Provinces, or would Canada's provinces became states?

4: If Canada and America joined together, what would be the national currency?

5: If Canada and America joined together, do you think that the Canadian population (especially in the Arctic) would increase or decrease?

6: If Canada and America joined together, do you think American military being much closer to Russia would be sen as a threat by the Russians?

[Oneracon]

Because we saw no need to fix what isn't broken?

So basically, they were too lazy to change it? I'm not trying to insult Canada, but that is what it sounds like, since instead a republic which is currently the most democratic system, we choose something that in the long run doesn't really grant independence that much.

Canada is a sovereign state, it is neither dependent nor subject to any other power or state.

How is this so difficult to understand?

[EUstan]

Yes, because there is no difference between them.

[Hathradic States]

Sounds good to me. They can do it willingly now, or be forced into it with fire and blood when I become King President.

[Meritocratic States]

Because we saw no need to fix what isn't broken?

So basically, they were too lazy to change it? I'm not trying to insult Canada, but that is what it sounds like, since instead a republic which is currently the most democratic system, we choose something that in the long run doesn't really grant independence that much.

Canada is one of the best democracies in the world, to counter your allegations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

[UshraKerbal]

All EXCEPT Quebec. Quebec should become an independent country.

When the world government takes power I think we can leave Quebec out if it.

Alacrity

[Charellia]

Because we saw no need to fix what isn't broken?

So basically, they were too lazy to change it? I'm not trying to insult Canada, but that is what it sounds like, since instead a republic which is currently the most democratic system, we choose something that in the long run doesn't really grant independence that much.

Not lazy, pragmatic. A republic would be a better system, but the current one works just fine. Major change creates conflict which we could do without.

[-Skyrim]

So basically, they were too lazy to change it? I'm not trying to insult Canada, but that is what it sounds like, since instead a republic which is currently the most democratic system, we choose something that in the long run doesn't really grant independence that much.

Canada is a sovereign state, it is neither dependent nor subject to any other power or state.

How is this so difficult to understand?

How many times must I repeat myself? On paper it may say that, but actions speak louder then words, and what it says doesn't (atleast how I see it) seem to be true.

[The Alexanderan Socialist Party]

And all this about the US already protecting Canada- why do we if we're not one country.

Umm... Because you are allies.

[Nation of the Genuine Peoples]

All EXCEPT Quebec. Quebec should become an independent country.

But 'Merica will be big

[Oneracon]

Canada is a sovereign state, it is neither dependent nor subject to any other power or state.

How is this so difficult to understand?

How many times must I repeat myself? On paper it may say that, but actions speak louder then words, and what it says doesn't (atleast how I see it) seem to be true.

Can you provide any examples of this beyond the usual "hurr durr but she's queen of england" remarks?

[Hathradic States]

Hey people, I have some questions for you about what would happen after they joined:

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1: If Canada and America joined together, where would the capital be?

Washington, DC.

2: If Canada and America joined together, what would be the new countries name?

The United States of America.

3: If Canada and America joined together, would American states become Provinces, or would Canada's provinces became states?

They'd be States, of course.

4: If Canada and America joined together, what would be the national currency?

The Dollar.

5: If Canada and America joined together, do you think that the Canadian population (especially in the Arctic) would increase or decrease?

Go the way it is going now.

6: If Canada and America joined together, do you think American military being much closer to Russia would be sen as a threat by the Russians?

We already can have our military right by Russia. Or did you forget that Alaska is only 50 miles away from Siberia?

[Meritocratic States]

Canada is a sovereign state, it is neither dependent nor subject to any other power or state.

How is this so difficult to understand?

How many times must I repeat myself? On paper it may say that, but actions speak louder then words, and what it says doesn't (atleast how I see it) seem to be true.

We make our own laws and amend our constitution without the British Parliament approving it.

I rest my case.

[DesAnges]

Hey people, I have some questions for you about what would happen after they joined:

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1: If Canada and America joined together, where would the capital be?
Anchorage
2: If Canada and America joined together, what would be the new countries name?
Greater Anchorage
3: If Canada and America joined together, would American states become Provinces, or would Canada's provinces became states?
Yes
4: If Canada and America joined together, what would be the national currency?
GBP
5: If Canada and America joined together, do you think that the Canadian population (especially in the Arctic) would increase or decrease?
The "Canadian population" would cease to exist by the very object of the scenario.
6: If Canada and America joined together, do you think American military being much closer to Russia would be sen as a threat by the Russians?
The US already shares a border with Russia. Kinda.

[Oneracon]

Hey people, I have some questions for you about what would happen after they joined:

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1: If Canada and America joined together, where would the capital be?

Washington, DC. Ottawa

2: If Canada and America joined together, what would be the new countries name?

The United States of America. United Canada

3: If Canada and America joined together, would American states become Provinces, or would Canada's provinces became states?

They'd be States territories, of course.

4: If Canada and America joined together, what would be the national currency?

The Canadian Dollar.

5: If Canada and America joined together, do you think that the Canadian population (especially in the Arctic) would increase or decrease?

Go the way it is going now.

6: If Canada and America joined together, do you think American military being much closer to Russia would be sen as a threat by the Russians?

We already can have our military right by Russia. Or did you forget that Alaska is only 50 miles away from Siberia?

Fixed that for ya.

[Charellia]

Canada is a sovereign state, it is neither dependent nor subject to any other power or state.

How is this so difficult to understand?

How many times must I repeat myself? On paper it may say that, but actions speak louder then words, and what it says doesn't (atleast how I see it) seem to be true.

Canada is more democratic in practice than on paper.

[-Skyrim]

How many times must I repeat myself? On paper it may say that, but actions speak louder then words, and what it says doesn't (atleast how I see it) seem to be true.

Can you provide any examples of this beyond the usual "hurr durr but she's queen of england" remarks?

The Queen merely having power in Canada is enough to cut it for me. And the GG is not as democratic as you're making it out to be, as they are not elected at all.

[The Flood]

Good Charlotte is terrible. Good Charlotte comes from the US. Therefore, we should stay independent.

And although yes, we have Beiber, you have Carlie Rae Jepsen, Lindsay Lohan, and Chief Keef.

Also, I like my socialized healthcare, generally functional government, and decent education system, thanks.

And for the record, the USA has natural resources, too.

Alright, we'll sweeten it: Your futbol teams can join a real competitive knockout tournament in the US Open Cup.

I mean, Edmonton will probably be crushed by a D4 team, but Toronto and Vancouver might do okay.

You gotta do better then that man. Accept the Queen along with our functional government, and you've got a deal

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

You use the words 'Join Together', but all I hear is colonialism or annexation.

It would probably be the latter, but not a violent one.

Still would be nothing but disadvantages for Canada.

Quite. Besides, a nation with two ethnic groups usually becomes an empire, and we all know the way of the empire.

[PopularFreedom]

So basically, they were too lazy to change it? I'm not trying to insult Canada, but that is what it sounds like, since instead a republic which is currently the most democratic system, we choose something that in the long run doesn't really grant independence that much.

Canada is one of the best democracies in the world, to counter your allegations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Canada is a democracy? Since when, a friendly dictatorship possibly, maybe an authoritarian democracy if you really want to be exact and inclusive of the term democracy, but in terms of actual democracy Canada is not a true democracy. Any nation that has an unelected group of people (the senate) set up as a 'sober' second thought, who can overrule the will of the people (House of Commons) means in actuality we have no democracy in this country (not to mention the fact that we use the first past the post rule which is undemocratic, we have no way to recall elected leaders in most parts of the country, you can have leaders who are unelected in power for years (for example Wynne in Ontario), and you can vote for someone who can then choose to cross the floor to join the opposite ideological party whenever they feel like it (see Emerson in 2006 (federal), Stronach around the same time (federal) etc)...

[Oneracon]

Can you provide any examples of this beyond the usual "hurr durr but she's queen of england" remarks?

The Queen merely having power in Canada is enough to cut it for me. And the GG is not as democratic as you're making it out to be, as they are not elected at all.

Because they're not supposed to be elected.

Elections are not democracy, otherwise we'd be like Americans where we would fight for the right to elect our dog-catchers.

[Marcurix]

Because we saw no need to fix what isn't broken?

So basically, they were too lazy to change it? I'm not trying to insult Canada, but that is what it sounds like, since instead a republic which is currently the most democratic system, we choose something that in the long run doesn't really grant independence that much.

So basically, they were too lazy to change it?

Or they didn't want to.

since instead a republic which is currently the most democratic system,

Wrong.

we choose something that in the long run doesn't really grant independence that much.

I don't know why you have it in your head Canada isn't a fully independent nation.

[-Skyrim]

Canada is one of the best democracies in the world, to counter your allegations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Canada is a democracy? Since when, a friendly dictatorship possibly, maybe an authoritarian democracy if you really want to be exact and inclusive of the term democracy, but in terms of actual democracy Canada is not a true democracy. Any nation that has an unelected group of people (the senate) set up as a 'sober' second thought, who can overrule the will of the people (House of Commons) means in actuality we have no democracy in this country (not to mention the fact that we use the first past the post rule which is undemocratic, we have no way to recall elected leaders in most parts of the country, you can have leaders who are unelected in power for years (for example Wynne in Ontario), and you can vote for someone who can then choose to cross the floor to join the opposite ideological party whenever they feel like it (see Emerson in 2006 (federal), Stronach around the same time (federal) etc)...

Thank you! I've been trying to explain this to them for a half hour now.

[Hathradic States]

Canada is one of the best democracies in the world, to counter your allegations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Canada is a democracy? Since when, a friendly dictatorship possibly, maybe an authoritarian democracy if you really want to be exact and inclusive of the term democracy, but in terms of actual democracy Canada is not a true democracy. Any nation that has an unelected group of people (the senate) set up as a 'sober' second thought, who can overrule the will of the people (House of Commons) means in actuality we have no democracy in this country (not to mention the fact that we use the first past the post rule which is undemocratic, we have no way to recall elected leaders in most parts of the country, you can have leaders who are unelected in power for years (for example Wynne in Ontario), and you can vote for someone who can then choose to cross the floor to join the opposite ideological party whenever they feel like it (see Emerson in 2006 (federal), Stronach around the same time (federal) etc)...

There is a good reason to have that, though. I would prefer than in the US over electing Senators.