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Condemn Gholgoth

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Condemn Gholgoth

Postby Zwartania » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:15 pm

Description: The Security Council,

RECOGNISING that the Gholgoth region and alliance, having reformed recently, have since done nothing but created trouble, in attempting to destroy smaller nations, because they were founded after them.

NOTING that member nations of the Gholgoth are in full support of this, and do so knowing of the true reasons.

PROTESTING that the Gholgoth is free to use such force with no reasoning.

AFFIRMING that these are the true intentions of the Gholgoth nations.

APPRECIATING the brave opposition by much smaller nations against these much larger imperialistic nations.

ACCEPTING that a condemnation of the Gholgoth is the best way that this situation can be dealt with, as it will hopefully give them a sense of perspective, as they think that they are rightful "rulers of the world."

HEREBY CONDEMNS the Gholgoth region and alliance.


I don't have 2 WA endorsements, but can someone else post this for me?

Relevant links: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41126&hilit=Gholgoth
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Postby Automagfreek » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:19 pm

We of almighty Gholgoth do hereby affirm these accusations to be true.
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Postby Bavin » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:22 pm

I think this does not go far enough. I, as the ambassador to the WA from Bavin do hereby state that we should not disconsider a liberation of Gholgoth from their evil overlords and such.
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Postby Praetonia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:22 pm

not this shit again :roll:

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Postby Brewdomia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:23 pm

GholGOTH iS EVil.

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Postby Raludcia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:26 pm

Zwartania wrote:
Description: The Security Council,

RECOGNISING that the Gholgoth region and alliance, having reformed recently, have since done nothing but created trouble, in attempting to destroy smaller nations, because they were founded after them.

NOTING that member nations of the Gholgoth are in full support of this, and do so knowing of the true reasons.

PROTESTING that the Gholgoth is free to use such force with no reasoning.

AFFIRMING that these are the true intentions of the Gholgoth nations.

APPRECIATING the brave opposition by much smaller nations against these much larger imperialistic nations.

ACCEPTING that a condemnation of the Gholgoth is the best way that this situation can be dealt with, as it will hopefully give them a sense of perspective, as they think that they are rightful "rulers of the world."

HEREBY CONDEMNS the Gholgoth region and alliance.


I don't have 2 WA endorsements, but can someone else post this for me?

Relevant links: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41126&hilit=Gholgoth


I will post this for you if you wish?
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Postby Raludcia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:33 pm

I have posed the Issue in the World Assembly and call upon all nations to help get this resolution passed.
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Postby Unibot » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:55 pm

"It needs some serious work with the language and content, but it has potential." Pascal stated.

RECOGNISING that the Gholgoth region and alliance, having reformed recently, have has since done nothing but created trouble, committed itself to in attempting to destroying smaller nations, because they were founded after them;

PROTESTING that the Gholgoth is continuing to do so free to use such force with no reasoning use tactical force against weaker nation-states for little reason other than to demonstrate its military superiority over fledgling nations;

DETERMINING that if Gholgoth wishes to show its superiority over fledgling nations, that it is only proper for the World Assembly to shows its superiority over Gholgoth;


A list of attacked nations would be much appreciated, separating it between member nations and non-member nations.
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Postby Olmedreca » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:05 pm

I would add that Gholgoth has quite long history of wars of aggression, genocide, more recently also slave trade etc.

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Postby No endorse » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:49 pm

Report on the Glorious Military Junta of No Endorse (NE)
Executive Summary, as provided to WASC delegates and related during Session (_) of the Debate on Proposal (___) for the Condemnation of Gholgoth.

Compiled by the Global Endorsian Ex-Patriot Committee (GEEPC) for the World Assembly Security Council (WASC)

The current WA assessment of NE may be found in Appendix 1.



Front Material
Foreword
The Glorious Military Junta of No Endorse, hereafter referred to as NE, is a member of the Gholgoth region, currently expressing its intention to engage in various militaristic expansionist activities across NSEarth. The WASC is currently examining various applicable measures to take against certain states, and has released a request for various reports on active units within the Gholgoth Region. These reports will be used to determine exact sanctions to be extended toward various member-states, should individual action be required, and also examined for international action. The Global Endorsian Ex-Patriot Committee compiled this report pursuant to relevant regulations, which may be found in attached Appendix(_).

Summary
The government of NE is a violent authoritarian dictatorship run solely by the various "Uniformed Services" of the military, with the government and the military being quite synonymous. The government sponsors a nuclear first strike policy in any and all possible situations, and through the NukeWealth organization supports international nuclear arms proliferation. Rampant institutionalized racism in the form of a state sponsored quasi-religion known as "Amnerist Darwinism" supports basically any and all government action, and widespread indoctrination at all levels ensures compliance. Extensive militarization and pollution mar the nation, and life expectancy is quite low. Reconstruction and recovery efforts in the wake of relatively recent nuclear attack are ongoing, with various rights being curtailed in the name of "national solidarity" and "ongoing recovery." Political dissidents and rights activists are frequently "reassigned" to work camps of the most atrocious kind. Finally, through the Athena Design Consortium and other international arms conglomerates, NE provides top quality military hardware at very low prices to the third and fourth world, further destabilizing numerous delicate zones. This report recommends that international assets of Endorsian defense corporations, politicians, and suspected front corporations be frozen or seized. Economic sanctions of all types should be leveled against NE, especially in the areas of defense, energy, and consumer products, and every effort should be made to seize leading political and military figures for crimes against humanity.



Discussion
The following sections detail specific topics related to NE and its atrocious record and provide references for further information. Complete findings may be found in the full report, Document (________), which may be obtained from the WASC or GEEPC Archives.

Political Structure
The government of NE is a top-down unitary dictatorship, with all services routed through some portion of the armed forces. The major Uniformed Services are the Army, Air Force, Navy, Space Association, Rail Command, Strategic Weapons Command, Research and Development, Civil Protective Services, Executive Services, and the Intelligence Organization. Additional independent services include the Weather Corps and Youth Scouts. A list of all major departments and branches may be found in Appendix (_). Select examples include Civil Rail Command, a military unit that coordinates all civilian rail traffic within the Nation. Similarly, local level policing, firefighting, and EMS are provided by an entity known as Civil Protection, a subunit within the department of Executive Services.

In order to gain political power, one must rise within the military organization. The Parliament of NE consists of top level generals and corporate figures, and are merely there to rubber stamp the actions of the current Arch-Leader: Jeannette Vickers. All real power exists in the council of the 11 heads of the major Uniformed Services, with the Arch-Leader deciding all split votes with a 2 vote weight. Infighting is frequent, and several minor civil wars between Services have been noted over the years. Democracy is nonexistent above the most local of levels, and even then no action may be taken without military approval.

Nuclear Policy
NE supports a nuclear policy known as CRAZED (Calculated, Restricted Aggression and Zealous Engagement and Defense), a NUTS style first/precision nuclear strike policy. CRAZED advocates first strike actions against enemy nations to eliminate enemy opposition. Nuclear weapons are to be deployed at all levels of the military and used in a similar manner to artillery and air strikes in other nations. Standing doctrine on the attack is to drop a nuclear bomb into the middle of an enemy line of battle and charge through with large quantities of mechanized units. Additionally, weapons from torpedoes to SAMs to company-level fire support assets are nuclear; it is doubtful that NE even knows how many such weapons it posesses. This doctrine is espoused through the Badb Catha International Military Academy in Skibereen and represents a grave threat to international nuclear disarmament.

Additionally, through the Nuclear Commonwealth organization, NE promotes international nuclear proliferation, especially to the third and fourth world. Such weapons are provided to other nations for sale immediately upon request, as gifts at times, and in response to international condemnation for various crimes. The "NukeWealth" also supports the global expansion of nuclear power plants, again through sales and gifts. While these reactors are commendable for the impeccable safety and efficiency record of their technology, many of these reactors come ready to begin churning out weapons grade material, complete with instructions.

Amnerist Darwinism and Education
Amnerist Darwinism, examined further by Dr. ______ in the Convention on International Indoctrination and Concerning Systems (relevant excerpts of which may be found in Appendix (_), is a quasi-scientific quasi-religious belief system. It combines institutionalized prejudice and Social Darwinism in a particularly despicable way, promoting the extermination of "Socio-Genetic Inferiors" for the "Betterment of Humanity." Amnerist Darwinism is named for its creator and most fervent advocate, the late Atal Amner. Amnerist Darwinism seeks to purify humanity into a form of master race, and considers any action "bettering" the human socio-genetic seed to be essential. Churches of Amnerist Darwinism exist around the world, and are believed to frequently be fronts for global indoctrination and the NE government.

Endorsian youth are indoctrinated in Amnerist Darwinism, total adherence to government word, and other such topics from a young age. Such indoctrination has been continuous since sometime in 1998 in various forms, and has intensified in recent years to cover every possible topic the government advocates. Some portions, such as unwavering support of the government, have seen unwavering support throughout Endorsian recorded history, the only difference being the exact government being supported. Internet, television, and other such information portals are strictly regulated.

Pollution and the Environment
NE possesses no environmental or worker's safety regulations of any sort, and serves as a low cost center for the destruction, recycling, and processing of highly toxic and dangerous materials from across the world. Large, open air lakes store highly toxic, caustic, reactive, and explosive materials with no isolation from the local water table. Life expectancy downwind and downstream of these facilities is abysmally low, though many sites have been reclaimed and transferred to desert basins in recent years. The ecological cost is incalculable, and estimates of total cleanup cost, were such possible, border on the insane.

Excessive fishing and whaling around NE have nearly eliminated local stocks, and NE vessels frequently venture into international and foreign waters. Such vessels adhere to no internationally recognized standard of any kind, and are frequently mobile environmental hazards. The sinking of such a vessel should be treated as a disastrous toxic accident, and the wreck should be immediately covered and isolated to prevent further damage to the environment.

The War With Nova Britannica and British Londinium
In recent years, a costly conflict with British Londinium resulted in a nuclear exchange between Nova Britannica and various members of an international coalition. Millions of deaths within NE have resulted in significant economic, ecologic, and social devastation. Such is only surpassed by the complete and total destruction of the Britannican landmass through excessive utilization of nuclear weapons, lowering the entire continent beneath the ocean. Reconstruction efforts in various contamination zones continue to this day, though no aid has been provided to victims of the attack, reclamation workers, or any other concerned individual.

The complete destruction of Nova Britannica serves as a blunt reminder of the brutality of the NE regime and its willingness to engage in total nuclear war. Additionally, its unwillingness and inability to compensate victims represents a crime against humanity.

Civil Rights Record and Rule of Law
Members of the military are frequently above the law. As noted in the Convention on the Actions of Uniformed Officials in Session (_), Discussion (_), Chapter (_), Section (_), NE military officials are unconvictable in the areas of mugging, assault (violent, verbal, and sexual), libel/slander, et cetera. Internal actions to limit such behavior have frequently failed. Activists, lawyers, victims of state abuse, and protesters are frequently reassigned to work in toxic waste reclamation facilities, though some are allowed to leave the country. GEEPC largely consists of such persons. Freedom of Speech, Religion, Person, Possession, et cetera are not guaranteed and frequently violated on a gross scale. Bribery is commonplace, with relatively low thresholds to get one out of prison.

Military-Industrial Complex and International Arms Trade
The Athena Design Consortium and other actors frequently sell or otherwise provide military equipment to the most troublesome of the international community. Weapons such as the FI-20 Ranger supersonic interceptor aircraft, the NESR-21 infantry rifle system, and surplus MG-07 Jenna main battle tanks are distributed to any willing buyer. Additionally, nuclear arms, man-portable rocket launchers, sniper rifles, armored fighting vehicles, especially of the Stryker class, naval vessels of all forms, and any other piece of military hardware may be obtained for the correct price. Minimal bribery is needed to secure even the most destructive of weapons.

Additionally, following the secession of the Muncherian Special Administrative District from NE control, and its subsequent invasion by Chevrokia, a large quantity of NE military material is available on the international market at extremely low cost. Much of this material is military grade high technology, and is frequently provided with blueprints and other materials to allow for domestic production. Such material is a direct threat to world peace.



Conclusion
NE exists largely outside of international law and common decency. NE has repeatedly rejected any criticisms leveled against it, and will continue to engage in its own whims whenever it so chooses. The government of NE believes fervently in this Amnerist Darwinism, or recognizes its potency for the controlling of the populace. It exerts a grossly destabilizing influence on the international community, and present efforts against them have resulted in no change in their current course of action. Further action is required.

It must be emphasized that NE is a Gothic state in good standing, does not necessarily represent an outlier among the region when taken in total, and has seen virtually no condemnation from the region.

Recommendations
All international assets of Endorsian defense corporations, politicians, military leaders, and other such persons and organizations should be frozen and/or seized insofar as possible. Select corporations include the Athena Defense Consortium. A complete list may be found in Appendix (__). International economic and travel sanctions should be levied against NE, and pressure placed upon its allies to further alienate NE. Sanctions should include, but not be limited to, sanctions against weapons and technology transfers, money transfers, consumer products, travel, petroleum products, and other such actions. Military, Political, and Corporate figures in the NE government and society should be detained and tried for international crimes. Military action should be examined. The Nuclear Commonwealth organization should be carefully examined, its weapons proliferation activities strictly limited, and its powerplant proliferation actions supported to reduce the impact of global warming.
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Postby A mean old man » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:39 pm

Praetonia wrote:not this shit again :roll:


Actually, this condemnation is from a roleplayed point of view, so it's not the old "gameplayers versus roleplayers" crap. It's "roleplayers versus roleplayers."
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Postby No endorse » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:04 pm

OOC Note, the Gholgoth alliance hasn't reformed. We've been around for a /looooooooong/ time, we've just recently started making noise again. We never went away, just got quiet.

@ A Mean Old Man: get RPin. I'm happy to RP an expert talkin to the WASC, though my government's standing policy of ignoring everything WA-related will preclude any government comment.
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Postby Senestrum » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:13 am

Give a region full of evil tyranny guys a badass-looking symbol that looks evil and oppressive. They totally won't like it.

Really.
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Postby SkyMasters » Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:06 am

Reverse psychology doesn't work. These labels are to say who the WA likes and who the WA does not like- lets not overcomplicate things. We can ignore Golgoth due to the lack of anything major that we've seen here.
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Postby Crimmond » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:33 am

Description: The Security Council,

RECOGNIZING that the Gholgoth region and alliance, having re-emerged from dormancy, have since declared intentions to forcibly dominate any and all nations they wish through political and military means, stating that any who stand against them shall be decimated.

NOTING that member nations of the Gholgoth are in full support of this, and give such support knowing the end result of their actions.

PROTESTING that the Gholgoth is free to use such force without checks or consequences.

AFFIRMING that these are the true intentions of the nations of Gholgoth.

APPRECIATING the brave opposition by nations far smaller and weaker against the imperialistic intentions of Gholgoth.

ACCEPTING that a condemnation of the Gholgoth is the best way that this situation can be dealt with, as it shall show to them that actions have consequences and it is time for Gholgoth to turn from it's imperialistic expansion to far more peaceful endeavors, instead of imposing their will forcibly on non-aligned nations.

HEREBY CONDEMNS the region of Gholgoth and Gholgoth alliance.


I'm irked by the poor way this thing was wrote, so I rewrote it for you guys. Now it actually makes sense.
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Postby The Scandinvans » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:19 pm

The world has for years now attempted to oppress one of the last bastions of true freedom in the world, Gholgoth. For decades we have defended ourselves against the inexhaustible hordes of the lesser world who attempt to deny us our rights and our dues. What we do now is to defend the rights our nations and the continued existence of our nations; free from the parasites and the doubters.

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Postby Automagfreek » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:07 pm

"4 hours ago: Gholgoth was nominated for a World Assembly Condemnation by The United Kingdom of Raludcia."

Um, really... again? I think it's obvious now that gameplayers have no desire to condemn roleplaying regions, which has been shown by the 2 failed condemnations against Haven (plus a failed liberation attempt), and now 1 failed attempt to condemn Gholgoth.
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Postby The Krieg Empire » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:11 pm

The Imperial Delegation on behalf of the sovereign nation of Krieg hereby supports this condemnation, having been indirectly targeted for extermination and assimilation.

The Imperial Delegate pushes for sanctions against the region of Gholgoth, to halter the flow of supplies feeding their military war machine.
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:59 am

Just looking at the re-submitted version, I'm fairly sure its illegal, because of this clause:

HEREBY CONDEMNS the region of Gholgoth and Gholgoth alliance.


You can only condemn the nominee region.

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:59 pm

I'd venture it's every bit as "legal" as commending "the player behind" a certain nation.
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:12 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:I'd venture it's every bit as "legal" as commending "the player behind" a certain nation.


viewtopic.php?f=24&t=31423&p=1265150#p1265150

I don't know enough about the differences between Gholgoth and the Gholgoth alliance to be able to say whether reading the clause in the same way that Ardchoille interpreted Condemn Nazi Europe is possible.

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Postby Automagfreek » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:13 pm

Sedgistan wrote:Just looking at the re-submitted version, I'm fairly sure its illegal, because of this clause:

HEREBY CONDEMNS the region of Gholgoth and Gholgoth alliance.


You can only condemn the nominee region.


We're a regional alliance, so the wording would be correct.
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Postby Sedgistan » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:14 pm

Ah, well there's an instant clarification :)

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Postby Crimmond » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:36 pm

I just find this amusing...

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Because it would now credit a Gholgoth nation with contributing to the condemnation proposal. It is true... but still amusing.
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Postby Automagfreek » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:59 pm

Crimmond wrote:I just find this amusing...

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Because it would now credit a Gholgoth nation with contributing to the condemnation proposal. It is true... but still amusing.


Yeah, that is pretty amusing. Not that this proposal stands a chance of passing, but amusing nonetheless.
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