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No. I don't want to improve my gaming experience and thus I'm selecting this option because you've pretty much boxed me in to it. I know I don't actually have to select anything anyway but I'm compelled to cast a vote. I know I can go to viewtopic.php?f=31&t=268404 if I really wanted to voice my opinion.
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No. May I treat you to a romantic dinner anyway?
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Urran
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Postby Urran » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:26 pm

erm Swith? The cop didn't respond.
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:31 pm

Urran wrote:erm Swith? The cop didn't respond.


She'll get to you. The last thing she needs is you getting all on her ass over five minutes of silence.
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Postby Urran » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:31 pm

Bone Fort wrote:
Urran wrote:erm Swith? The cop didn't respond.


She'll get to you. The last thing she needs is you getting all on her ass over five minutes of silence.


I meant over three posts and no response to it. But yeah, you're right :meh:
A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it's accepted by a majority.
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I <3 James May

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❤BITTEN BY THE VAMPIRE QUEEN OF COOKIES❤

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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:32 pm

This isn't a blitz thread. A whole page could pass in five minutes and it wouldn't change the fact that it's been only five goddamn minutes.
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Postby Tiltjuice » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:33 pm

New Aksarben wrote:
Tiltjuice wrote:
That is the last time I stay up and read through the IC in spite of my schedule specifically to resolve that confusion only to have it come to nothing because you don't read the OOC.

I read it.....

I was just saying that I wasn't sure what to do, seeing as Erucia hasn't posted(I think he's waiting for whatever he and NVE are doing).... In my last post with him, he was heading across the yard to the porch, but no one noticed him, even though there were still characters outside at that point.....


From my understanding, there are not characters outside. Everyone is inside except Ray and Jacob.
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Postby Urran » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:34 pm

Bone Fort wrote:This isn't a blitz thread. A whole page could pass in five minutes and it wouldn't change the fact that it's been only five goddamn minutes.


I meant SHE posted like three times without acknowledging it.
Last edited by Urran on Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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The Blood Ravens wrote: How wonderful. Its like Japan, and 1950''s America had a baby. All the racism of the 50s, and everything else Japanese.

I <3 James May

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Postby New Aksarben » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:35 pm

Tiltjuice wrote:
New Aksarben wrote:I read it.....

I was just saying that I wasn't sure what to do, seeing as Erucia hasn't posted(I think he's waiting for whatever he and NVE are doing).... In my last post with him, he was heading across the yard to the porch, but no one noticed him, even though there were still characters outside at that point.....


From my understanding, there are not characters outside. Everyone is inside except Ray and Jacob.

Not anymore. But when I posted that, people were just heading inside...... *sigh* nevermind. I'll just not post for him.....
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Bone Fort
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:35 pm

Urran, don't worry. She hasn't forgotten the cop and will get back to you as soon as she's made a response. Be patient.
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Urran
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Postby Urran » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:37 pm

Bone Fort wrote:Urran, don't worry. She hasn't forgotten the cop and will get back to you as soon as she's made a response. Be patient.


I am patient. It was just a gentle reminder. But I do not appreciate you jumping all over me. Like Minerva, I'm in a bit of a bad mood today. I'm not jumping on you, just saying I'm a bit testy.
A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it's accepted by a majority.
Proud Coastie
The Blood Ravens wrote: How wonderful. Its like Japan, and 1950''s America had a baby. All the racism of the 50s, and everything else Japanese.

I <3 James May

I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith
❤BITTEN BY THE VAMPIRE QUEEN OF COOKIES❤

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Postby The BranRiech » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:41 pm

How about the both of you stop, eh? Bones made his point, no need in continuing the pointlessness that is arguing.

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Postby Tiltjuice » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:42 pm

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Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. -Khalil Gibran
Cut red tape with the Red Book / Bureaucracy is a system - #ApplyTNI / Think globally, act locally
At fifteen, I set my heart on learning. At thirty, I was firmly established. At forty, I had no more doubts. At fifty, I knew the will of heaven. At sixty, I was ready to listen to it. At seventy, I could follow my heart's desire without transgressing what was right. ~Analects, 2:4
I wear teal, blue, pink, and red for Swith.
mumblemumblemumble

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Postby Swith Witherward » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:54 pm

Okay, here's why I haven't responded yet. I'm trying to set the scene up in my head.

The cop walked up and knocked on the driver's side window. He had a view through the windshield. It's a Kia, not a blocked out van. He noticed (based on description) the two men in the vehicle. The driver rolled down his window and handed papers. I've thought all along that the driver is the one talking because, in order for the passenger to talk, the cop would need to stoop to hear him and would have asked if the driver was unable to speak English (normally, on a stop, the person in command of the vehicle is the one who gets a bit more attention, since he could start it up and use it as a weapon.)

The officer would have noticed someone in the back. Cops watch for fidgeting. Remember, he thinks they're here for drugs. He suspects they might be carrying weapons or attempt to run. Cops don't approach any stop without a high amount of caution, even if they're a first responder to an accident. So, the guy who wasn't in the backseat before is suddenly fidgeting (moving, which draws the eye) and the cop is going to put his safety first.

What should happen is the cop draws his weapon and orders the driver out of the vehicle. That removes the threat to his safety as far as the vehicle being a weapon. His partner will call for backup and then order one of the passengers out, most likely the one in front. Both men will be ordered prone on the ground. Passenger #1 is cuffed. That cop watches backseat while driver is cuffed. Passenger #2 is ordered from the vehicle. The cop's voices are ramped up at this point because the back seat can hide all sorts of weapons.

I haven't posted yet because I'm giving Urran the benefit of the doubt and thinking the guys in the vehicle are experienced agents of some sort. They'd know not to fidget, even if Urran is unfamiliar with traffic stops/drug stops.

I need to get your guys out of the mindset that police and military in this RP are dense flatfoots. Prim established them as stupid, and a few other "horror" events cemented that in because things occurred with there weren't any players to RP these NPCs. I'm playing the police NPCS at the moment as cops you'd find in the US, Europe or Japan. They're very well trained, they approach every stop as if it had the potential to kill them, and they look for obvious signs of trouble.

In case no one cottoned on... because my post probably wasn't seen in the OOC... that homeless man was a cultist investigating the vehicle before the police approached. The cultist would have seen who was in there.
Swith Witherward wrote:When is a cultist not a cultist? When he's playing dress up, 'natch!

I've only got a few minutes online. My meeting's tonight so I won't be home until late.


Urran... viewtopic.php?p=16802268#p16802268

And my sidebar is down. Damn it. Sorry peeps, I won't be responding to TG at the moment.
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Postby Swith Witherward » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:11 pm

Crap! I forgot that I'm dogsitting. No wonder the fluff ball is wagging his tail expectantly. *sheepish*

Alright, I'll be back after kibbles and kisses.
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Postby Tiltjuice » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:39 pm

OK, back. Who needs a reply from me?
Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. -Khalil Gibran
Cut red tape with the Red Book / Bureaucracy is a system - #ApplyTNI / Think globally, act locally
At fifteen, I set my heart on learning. At thirty, I was firmly established. At forty, I had no more doubts. At fifty, I knew the will of heaven. At sixty, I was ready to listen to it. At seventy, I could follow my heart's desire without transgressing what was right. ~Analects, 2:4
I wear teal, blue, pink, and red for Swith.
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Postby The BranRiech » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:40 pm

Tiltjuice wrote:OK, back. Who needs a reply from me?

I 'aven't posted yet, but Bran will need one, and Natiya needs one too.

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Postby Tiltjuice » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:41 pm

The BranRiech wrote:
Tiltjuice wrote:OK, back. Who needs a reply from me?

I 'aven't posted yet, but Bran will need one, and Natiya needs one too.


I'll just combine them. *nods*
Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. -Khalil Gibran
Cut red tape with the Red Book / Bureaucracy is a system - #ApplyTNI / Think globally, act locally
At fifteen, I set my heart on learning. At thirty, I was firmly established. At forty, I had no more doubts. At fifty, I knew the will of heaven. At sixty, I was ready to listen to it. At seventy, I could follow my heart's desire without transgressing what was right. ~Analects, 2:4
I wear teal, blue, pink, and red for Swith.
mumblemumblemumble

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Postby The New Velociraptor Empire » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:45 pm

Apologies, I've been delayed by legal matters and general incompetence. I shall reply soon as I write after I determine what has happened.

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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:51 pm

Seeing as things here have stalled, I'll be taking a walk. Be back soon.
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Postby Swith Witherward » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:04 pm

O! Pomeranian! Why you run in circles after eating each kibble?
Do you think you'll catch that dog who just ate your kibble?
Do you not know the cat will kill you for your food if I walk away?
You pluck your kibble from the bowl and crunch it most merrily,
but is that trip round the kitchen table really necessary?
Thirty two kibbles in your bowl, no more and no less,
and tonight you ran thirty two times in your circle
and never caught the other Pomeranian.

I'm back.

I think I'm just going to scrub the cop thing. He'll end up walking away or something.
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Postby Tiltjuice » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:09 pm

Welcome back, Swithers.

That's probably a good idea.

I still think there's two different sets of expectations because there's two groups of players. Plus the RP itself has two aspects that only feed those differing expectations. That's probably where the difficulty is coming from.
Beauty is not in the face; beauty is a light in the heart. -Khalil Gibran
Cut red tape with the Red Book / Bureaucracy is a system - #ApplyTNI / Think globally, act locally
At fifteen, I set my heart on learning. At thirty, I was firmly established. At forty, I had no more doubts. At fifty, I knew the will of heaven. At sixty, I was ready to listen to it. At seventy, I could follow my heart's desire without transgressing what was right. ~Analects, 2:4
I wear teal, blue, pink, and red for Swith.
mumblemumblemumble

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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:26 pm

I disagree. Let Urran reap the consequences of his actions and learn from it. I'm tired of constantly have to back off because the other players aren't thinking things through. That's no damn excuse.
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Postby The BranRiech » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:31 pm

Going to the homecoming game, be back in a few hours. Feel free to move my characters around if you guys see fit.

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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:32 pm

The BranRiech wrote:Going to the homecoming game, be back in a few hours. Feel free to move my characters around if you guys see fit.


Have fun dude. Enjoy it.
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Postby Swith Witherward » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:35 pm

Bran, my cousin's is tonight! Enjoy it! Take some pictures and stuff!

Tiltjuice wrote:(snipped)
I still think there's two different sets of expectations because there's two groups of players. Plus the RP itself has two aspects that only feed those differing expectations. That's probably where the difficulty is coming from.

I agree.

I can't just discard any sense of realism. But then what? Cer says "challenge them to come up to your level". In any other RP, the situation would have played out like it was, with the cops responding that way. We're not totally set up as spoof, and people asked for more realistic elements way back when, or else I'd have played it slapstick. Bones is right in that regard. Cause and effect.

Then again, people, I don't care if people want to do stuff, but please give me a heads up in TG first. Run it by me to see if it's going to complicate other things that are going on.

Urran, you didn't clear these three new characters with me or Cer or Tilt or Bones. REDACT your posts, please. That, people, is how many RP are run. I'm not going to waste any more time on a matter that wasn't cleared to begin with.
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★ Retired Senior P2TM RP Mentor ★
How may I help you today?
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Why is everyone a social justice warrior?
Why didn't any of you choose a different class,
like social justice mage or social justice thief?
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Raider Account Bio: The Eternal Bugblatter Fennec of Traal!
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Postby Bone Fort » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:38 pm

No, we really need to stop redacting every single damn thing. It's screwing over the RP, every third thing gets redacted. It's confusing, and encouraging lazy RPing since people just think if something goes wrong they'll redact to make things right.
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I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.

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