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Postby The Whispers » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:19 am

So this is absolutely a thing that's undergoing a debate at the moment (Channel 81 on Freeview and 504 on Sky TV).

You in favour of a referendum and/or leaving the European Union?

I have absolutely no faith in the British public to not leave the Union, and I think that elitism is not especially negative on that kind of thing. So there we are.

Some words etc. of yours, GO!

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:22 am

Pro-EU, but I fear all of this anti-EU propaganda has taken its toll on the British public.
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Postby The Whispers » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:23 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Pro-EU, but I fear all of this anti-EU propaganda has taken its toll on the British public.

It looks like it's taken its toll on Parliament, too.

"Europe is burdensome for businesses" - no you fucking cunt, John Baron MP, no.

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:26 am

The Whispers wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Pro-EU, but I fear all of this anti-EU propaganda has taken its toll on the British public.

It looks like it's taken its toll on Parliament, too.

"Europe is burdensome for businesses" - no you fucking cunt, John Baron MP, no.

It's shameful that they have to resort to misrepresentation and outright lying to support their stance.
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Postby The Whispers » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:26 am

King of the whimsical claims is "we didn't vote for political integration with Europe" - whatever.

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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:32 am

I'm not sure if I'd support the Netherlands leaving the EU ... I'd like the guilder back, though. But I'll admit, that's mostly because of sentiment.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:32 am

Shame the pro-Union doesn't have anything quite so headline grabbing as banana regulation or Abu Qatada.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:35 am

Herrebrugh wrote:I'm not sure if I'd support the Netherlands leaving the EU ... I'd like the guilder back, though. But I'll admit, that's mostly because of sentiment.

*flashes 20 pound note*

Yeah, well... not all of us can have our own currency. *nods*
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:36 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:I'm not sure if I'd support the Netherlands leaving the EU ... I'd like the guilder back, though. But I'll admit, that's mostly because of sentiment.

*flashes 20 pound note*

Yeah, well... not all of us can have our own currency. *nods*


*starts sobbing*

It's not fair! :(

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:37 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:I'm not sure if I'd support the Netherlands leaving the EU ... I'd like the guilder back, though. But I'll admit, that's mostly because of sentiment.

*flashes 20 pound note*

Yeah, well... not all of us can have our own currency. *nods*

If it's your money, why is there some old German woman on it?
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Postby The Whispers » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:37 am

Ifreann wrote:Shame the pro-Union doesn't have anything quite so headline grabbing as banana regulation or Abu Qatada.

Herein lies the problem, as with the whole AV thing.

There are many very good reasons to be in the EU. But there's no pleb bait like "HURRR THIS APPLE HAS TO BE SOLD AS CLASS B DUE TO REGULATIONS ON APPLE SIZE, WHICH CLEARLY MEANS THAT THEY JUST SET IT ON FIRE THANKS BRUSSELS".
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Postby Vest Franksland » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:37 am

Very Interesting "debate". Have been watching the live stream from the commons.
Seems a lot of bickering and they keep on focusing attention away from the heart of the matter!
I am Pro-EU.
I guess unfortunately the UK population is rather uneducated in Politics, so perhaps it would be better to allow our parliament to do its job and govern, represent and keep itself in check (even though the EU membership in question has vast 'constituional' implications and would mean the UK would need to rewrite hundreds of pieces of legislation).

I thought the UK was having economic difficulties (not in comparison with Greece), so perhaps it would be better to discuss the issue of EU solidarity and membership a few years down the line when the UK's unemployment, inflation, education system, economic deficit is in better shape?

Sounds as though the Conservatives are playing a game: why not allow the uneducated UK population make a decision?
Well because that decision might not benefit the country. It's like scientists asking the mouse on its opinion of the cage it is being kept in.

I also think people have a right to vote on whatever issues they wish, but how can you vote on something that you do not know or have never been taught. Meerly not enough money has been placed into educating the UK on the advantages and disadvantages of the EU for the UK.
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Postby Afalia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:38 am

Pro-EU but I feel a referendum is something Britain should be entitled to. I just pray that we don't leave the EU.

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:41 am

Ifreann wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:*flashes 20 pound note*

Yeah, well... not all of us can have our own currency. *nods*

If it's your money, why is there some old German woman on it?

Good point. I'll send a request for personalised banknotes, or maybe at least banknotes with British heroes on them.

You know, like Thatcher.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:43 am

The Whispers wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Shame the pro-Union doesn't have anything quite so headline grabbing as banana regulation or Abu Qatada.

Herein lies the problem, as with the whole AV thing.

There are many very good reasons to be in the EU. But there's no pleb bait like "HURRR THIS APPLE HAS TO BE SOLD AS CLASS B DUE TO REGULATIONS ON APPLE SIZE, WHICH CLEARLY MEANS THAT THEY JUST SET IT ON FIRE THANKS BRUSSELS".

Exactly. Which doesn't bode well for old Blighty.
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Postby Nazis in Space » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:43 am

I trust the british public to do the right thing, and telling the thieving, lying eurocrats to get lost. Britain belongs to the English, not to Germany or France.

And especially not to Polish immigrants.

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Postby Navajo Land » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:44 am

Even though I not British or anyone who lives in the EU. (I'm American) I hope Britain doesn't leave the European Union. If they do the EU will collapse without British help. Unless Scotland by Sept 2014, when they become a nation of their own.

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Postby The Whispers » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:44 am

Nazis in Space wrote:I trust the british public to do the right thing, and telling the thieving, lying eurocrats to get lost. Britain belongs to the English...

Thanks, The Conservative Party's Feckless, Provincial Membership.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:44 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If it's your money, why is there some old German woman on it?

Good point. I'll send a request for personalised banknotes, or maybe at least banknotes with British heroes on them.

You know, like Thatcher.

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:47 am

Navajo Land wrote:[...] I hope Britain doesn't leave the European Union. If they do the EU will collapse without British help.


Hahahahahahahahaha.

Hahaha.

No.

The EU doesn't need Britain to survive, but it'd be preferable for both the EU and Britain if Britain were actually to stay in the EU and stop whining so goddamn often.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:47 am

Nazis in Space wrote:I trust the british public to do the right thing, and telling the thieving, lying eurocrats to get lost. Britain belongs to the English, not to Germany or France.

And especially not to Polish immigrants.

Abolish the UK, English supremacy 2013.

Ifreann wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Good point. I'll send a request for personalised banknotes, or maybe at least banknotes with British heroes on them.

You know, like Thatcher.

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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:47 am

Ifreann wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Good point. I'll send a request for personalised banknotes, or maybe at least banknotes with British heroes on them.

You know, like Thatcher.

Pitt the Elder.


Postman Pete?

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:48 am

Navajo Land wrote:Even though I not British or anyone who lives in the EU. (I'm American) I hope Britain doesn't leave the European Union. If they do the EU will collapse without British help. Unless Scotland by Sept 2014, when they become a nation of their own.

stahp telin my wat tuh do u gosh dern foreigner
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:48 am

So this is happening in the UK now?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:48 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Nazis in Space wrote:I trust the british public to do the right thing, and telling the thieving, lying eurocrats to get lost. Britain belongs to the English, not to Germany or France.

And especially not to Polish immigrants.

Abolish the UK, English supremacy 2013.

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