Homosexual relations must be made illegal.

[The Eslamshahr Pact]

I really don't care what you consider to be a sin.

Enjoy eternity in Hell then, for that is what you deserve, sinner, and that is where you are going.

Meh.

[The Emerald Legion]

Alternatively we could become a Naytheist nation.

Sounds like the most badass option to me. Not disbelief but declaring open war on god, not the followers, but the entity itself. Including any and all other religions things, just to be fair.

Sounds like more fun than this anyway. A society wide rage against the heavens.

What could possibly go wrong?

[German Deutsche]

We have tolerated leftists and liberals for far too long.

They are a cancer that needs to be completely eradicated. Liberalism and anything remotely related to the left must be completely destroyed, these disgusting ideas:

tolerance

acceptance

multiculturalism

democracy

must be destroyed. They're erasing the glorious history of Europe

[Choronzon]

Jesus people.

[Libertarian California]

If this guy isn't trolling, then here is an my actual response.

Genesis 19 is often used to condemn homosexuals (where the term ‘Sodomites’ comes from). Often people assume Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for homosexuality, but this is false. Ezekiel says, “…This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it. (Ezekiel 16:46-50)” Not a word mentioned about homosexual acts (let alone homosexual orientation)! However, we can assume the lust and intent to rape seen in Genesis 19 was one of the ‘abominable’ things mention in Ezekiel.

Then we have the Levitical texts, Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. Both deal with homosexual acts, yes, but within a context! Leviticus 18 is prefaced with “’You shall not do what is done in the land of Egypt where you lived, nor are you to do what is done in the land of Canaan where I am bringing you; you shall not walk in their statutes. (Leviticus 18:3)”. This give a further context to the condemnation of the cult of Molech in 18:21, where child sacrifice is forbidden on both an ethical and religious level, and pagan practices in general. But it is also interesting that the Cult of Molech involved cult prostitution and temple rape, which is then condemned in Lev. 18:22 and 20:13. The acts committed within a non-consenting and pagan context were what were (and still are) condemned.

Romans 1:26-27 is unique in that it uses very specific language. This lays out clearly Paul’s view of what was natural for women and men sexually, and is the verse that is most often pointed to when arguing whether or not homosexuality is natural. Or does it? When looking at this passage, we should discuss the verse in its proper context. Paul describes these men and women first as people who have turned their backs on God. Paul says,

“For even though they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.”

These people had turned their backs on God, despite having once known him, choosing to worship man and beasts over the one true God. This is why they exchanged what was natural to them—heterosexual desires—for what was unnatural—homosexual desires.

Within its context, we learn that this passage is describing heterosexual men and women who turned their backs on God and then chose to go against their God-given sexualities and fornicate with each other. It takes knowing a gay Christian to really understand the next concept I’m going to platform, but bear with me if you don’t personally know someone who is GLB: It’s that practicing homosexuals do not give up their natural heterosexuality for homosexuality. (Homosexuality and the Bible: My Thoughts -Sam)

Next we see, 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:9-10 used to condemn homosexuals. But we know that there was no word for “homosexual/ity” in any language until 1868 when it was coined by German Psychiatrist Karoly Maria Kertbeny in a critical response to a Prussian sodomy law. The word mistranslated as ‘homosexual/homosexual offender’ in certain Biblical translations, is ‘arsenokoitai’. A word meaning ‘man-bed’ (literally). It has been translated throughout history as ‘pervert’ (*the most accurate), and ‘masturbator’(during Martin Luther’s era; but that is also a mistranslation). ‘Pervert’ or ‘perversion’ is the best translation as the last time it was used in the Classical era (and specifically by a Classical church leader) in the 2nd Century AD to condemn men who were having anal sex with their wives. Not homosexual acts or homosexuality itself!

In fact it wasn’t until 360 years after Christ that homosexuality was condemned (specifically against “born/natural eunuchs” in the official document that did so. Also seen in Matt. 19:12, where Christ briefly but does in fact, affirm the nature of male-homosexuals). This was done by St. Athanasius, who blamed “natural/eunuchs” for civil unrest in Cisalpine Gaul and Milan. He suggested they be burned alive for their “sin” and, with Emperor Theodosius I under penance to St. Ambrose, had it so. Then the decree was posted to the Roman Hall of Minerva. So began an era of homophobia in the Church for the next 1800 years.

This is the story and exegesis of Homosexuality and Christianity.

Medical Science Behind Homosexuality

Homosexuality is not a “lifestyle”. It is not a mental illness, the assumption that psychology is on the side of Conservatism is false and totally unfounded. Every major medical academic conglomerate, including the World Health Organization, affirms the natural occurrence of homosexuality and the fact it should not be treated as anything else but natural. The American Medical Association’s position states, “The AMA reaffirms its long-standing policy that there is no basis for the denial to any human being of equal rights, privileges, and responsibilities commensurate with his or her individual capabilities and ethical character because of …sexual orientation…or transgender status…..” (BOT Rep. LL, I-86; Amended by Sunset Report, I-96; Modified: Res. 410, A-03) Indeed, the American Psychological Association’s website states it’s stance in the matter as well saying, “Since 1975, the American Psychological Association has called on psychologists to take the lead in removing the stigma of mental illness that has long been associated with lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations.” To quote the World Health Organizations “Disorders of sexual preference are clearly differentiated from disorders of gender identity, and homosexuality in itself is no longer included as a category.” (The ICD-10 Classification of Mental and Behavioural Disorders).

Medically, and on a biological level, sex research has shown the anal region (which is most often spoken of when speaking of homosexual sex) is equipped with numerous erotic nerve endings serving no other purpose but to be used in intercourse. Damage and infection can be rendered to that region in sex, injuries similar that of vaginal sex, but not if practiced safely and with the desire of the other person. Lesbian sex is an extended form of foreplay as no natural penetration occurs.

My Stance on “Ex-Gay Ministries”/Side-X

The American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association have both condemned the use of “Reparative Therapy” on homosexuals in order to “change” their sexual orientation. I would hope that one day a law is passed restricting the practice of “Reparative Therapy” and that the government also would hold an inquiry into the “ex gay” industry and prosecute it’s proponents (of administrators of these groups in question).
Twice, the American Psychiatric Association has condemned reparative therapy treatments: 1) 1997;”The American Psychiatric Association addressed ‘ex-gay’ therapy by stating, “The potential risks of ‘reparative therapy’ are great and include depression, anxiety, and self-destructive behavior…Further, APA calls on these organizations and individuals to do all that is possible to decrease the stigma related to homosexuality wherever and whenever it may occur. 2) 2000; “The American Psychiatric Association issued yet another statement and recommended ‘that ethical practitioners refrain from attempts to change individuals’ sexual orientation, keeping in mind the medical dictum, to ‘first do no harm.’”
The APA put forth a statement in December of 1998 that it opposes “reparative” or conversion therapy on the basis that homosexuality is a disease to begin with, an assumption that the APA refuted in 1975 and that the American Psychiatric Association refuted as well in 1973. Both esteemed psychological institutions have deemed any attempt at changing one’s sexual orientation as ineffective and the American Psychological Association holds “reparative therapy” as unethical (Therapies Focused on Attempts to Change Sexual Orientation…Position Statement; December 1998.)
The Council of Representatives of the American Psychological Association passed a resolution on August 14, 1997 affirming four basic principles with regard to treatments to alter sexual orientation. Those for being:
1. Homosexuality is not a mental disorder and the APA opposes all portrayals of lesbian, gay and bisexual people as mentally ill and in need of treatment due to their sexual orientation;
2. Psychologists do not knowingly participate in or condone discriminatory practices with lesbian, gay and bisexual clients;
3. Psychologists respect the rights of individuals, including lesbian, gay and bisexual clients to privacy, confidentiality, self-determination and autonomy;
4. Psychologists obtain appropriate informed consent to therapy in their work with lesbian, gay and bisexual clients.
The APA also added that “urges all mental health professionals to take the lead in removing the stigma of mental illness that has long been associated with homosexual orientation.”
In addition, the AMA (American Medical Association) also vehemently opposes the practice of attempting to change one’s sexual orientation). That is in its official statement on GLBT persons, “[The AMA] opposes, the use of ‘reparative’ or ‘conversion’ therapy that is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that the patient should change his/her homosexual orientation.” (GLBT Advisory Committee; AMA Policy on GLBT Issues; General policies; H-160.991; 1,C)
Internationally, the BMA (British Medical Association) made a resolution in the summer of 2010 at its annual conference to condemn the use of conversion therapy to change one’s sexual orientation. An overwhelming two-thirds of the doctors at the meeting passed the resolution. The strong opposition and screeching international condemnation by accredited psycho-medical institutions of the abuses committed by proponents of “ex gay ministries” surely is enough to uphold any legislation passed against such actions by “ex gay” proponents.
However, religious freedom does come into play here. To avoid any dilemmas regarding the constitutionality of such a law, I recommend (with my limited knowledge of law) that it should only restrict the use of “ex gay” practice to only those over age 18 (as sane minors are often forced into these institutions without consent). Adults who volunteer for such an ordeal should be able to follow a belief system that they choose to undergo, but they shouldn’t be able to violate the religious freedom of minors (though minimal).
It is, without a doubt, imperative that LGBT+ minors not be exposed to such a toxic environment where they’re treated as less-than their heterosexual counterparts. As we’ve seen from the rash of suicides plaguing high-profile religious conservative districts in the United States, the use of “ex gay” therapy, or the exposure to it, is not only painful, but deadly. At the very least, minors (those being citizens or legal residents of the United States of America under the age of 18) should be excluded from attending reparative therapy sessions either forcibly or on a volunteer basis.

This is a very strong opinion, yes. But it is no less an appropriate response for an industry that has ruined so many lives. In fact, one of the survivors of “Ex Gay” ministries testifies for the plaintiffs of the Prop 8 trial (Ryan Kendall). In Michelle Bachmann’s Congressional district, there is endemic suicides amongst youth meanwhile the Federal government is investigating civil rights abuses by school officials who are often times influenced by the “Ex Gay” supporters there. It is also noteworthy that Michelle and Marcus Bachmann both run an “Ex Gay” clinic in that region (which are known, now, to have an adverse affect on the society and mental health of people, specifically LGBT persons, who are within it’s proximity).

Spoilers man.

[Oaledonia]

wow. You are giving yourself a nice reputation on here OP.

And I bet you love my flag

[Blazedtown]

Just passing through.

Mark 16:16
Galatians 3:13
Galatians 3:24
John 3:16
John 14:6
Galatians 5:1
Galatians 5:6

To partake in sodomy is to deny the glory of God.

then why is my girlfriend always shouting oh god?

[Mkuki]

Sounds delicious. By the way... What exactly is "eternal suffering"?

Listening to Christian Rock.

What's the weather like? I don't want to suffer in an eternal winter.

[Gilotopia]

No, homosexual relations must not be made illegal. What should be made illegal is potential hate-crime offenders, particularly those who target people based on sexuality. Sexuality is a broad subject, but never is it wrong (except of course pedophilia and bestiality but that's a diff topic) Speaking as a believer in the Almighty, I'm pretty sure He/She is pissed off by all the hate upon His/Her creatures.

[TaQud]

I really don't care what you consider to be a sin.

Enjoy eternity in Hell then, for that is what you deserve, sinner, and that is where you are going.

you must be a great Christian. Its not like you are making your religion look bad....

[Libertarian California]

What would the mods do to me if I used the "kill yourself" meme?

Pope Muffins would approve of this message.

But would I get in trouble?

[Ceannairceach]

Why should an atheist listen to the complaints of religious whackjobs?

Atheism is a lie.

Atheists who do not repent and rededicate their lives to a service of God will face eternal suffering in Hell.

Yeah, sure, Lucifer fell,
But went on to reign in hell;
And if such a prize awaits,
I say, keep true, ram the gates!

[Conscentia]

Enjoy eternity in Hell then, for that is what you deserve, sinner, and that is where you are going.

Meh.

Ayn Rand is good company?

[Wisconsin9]

Lessee... no.

Or more specifically, fuck that shit and the horse you rode in on. Preferably homosexually.

[Conservative Christianity]

"Thou shalt not kill" only applies to killing fellow Christians.

No, I'm pretty sure it replies to anyone. Even if it did, what if the child being stoned was Christian?

Depends on the severity of the transgression.

There are some sins which I would consider to be a demonstration that the sinner no longer has faith in God.

[Haydenish People]

I really don't care what you consider to be a sin.

Enjoy eternity in Hell then, for that is what you deserve, sinner, and that is where you are going.

I'm an atheist. I don't think your silly Christian myths are really believable. Really? If you sin, you are sent to a fiery pit where you are eternally punished?

[Napkiraly]

To transcribe what God really meant for the whole "thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind" stuff, here is what he really meant as written by himself in his latest work.

"What was meant is this: If thou art a man, and thou seest another man that thou desires, do not cut off his genitals, use a knife to carve a slit where they were, and insert thyself into it, that thou mayest "lie" with him as thou wouldst a woman. Surely even the gayest among you would agree that that is detestable".

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Get a blog. Preferably somewhere else, thank you.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

We have tolerated leftists and liberals for far too long.

They are a cancer that needs to be completely eradicated. Liberalism and anything remotely related to the left must be completely destroyed, these disgusting ideas:

tolerance

acceptance

multiculturalism

democracy

must be destroyed. They're erasing the glorious history of Europe

I dunno. We've been tolerating you. For now.

Knock off the blatant trolling and baiting and flaming or that trend will be sharply reversed. *** Warned *** for the above nasty.