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Potenco
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Postby Potenco » Fri May 24, 2013 5:19 pm

I do think a standard Fasces is kind of austere looking though and seems almost too authoritative. Why not a pink fasces or rainbow rods. That would be cute and symbolize the nations dedication to tolerance and equality.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri May 24, 2013 5:30 pm

Potenco wrote:I do think a standard Fasces is kind of austere looking though and seems almost too authoritative. Why not a pink fasces or rainbow rods. That would be cute and symbolize the nations dedication to tolerance and equality.


Then that would reinforce the anti-"Gaystapo" crowd.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri May 24, 2013 5:32 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Potenco wrote:I do think a standard Fasces is kind of austere looking though and seems almost too authoritative. Why not a pink fasces or rainbow rods. That would be cute and symbolize the nations dedication to tolerance and equality.


Then that would reinforce the anti-"Gaystapo" crowd.

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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Fri May 24, 2013 5:36 pm

In light of TGR's ban, the Senate administration team will likely be more active in upcoming weeks about cracking down on those who disrupt the peaceful nature of this RP. No longer will slander be the only qualification to get a warning, but general disruption of the Senate will be a qualification as well. People who already have a history are especially reminded to keep calm. As a reminder, those who have warnings:
Costa Alegria-2
The God Realm-1
The Treorai-1

The administration team is likely to continue to follow the path laid out in the Ethics Act, which provides for two warnings before suspension, which is determined by the team. However, we may move to double warnings (twice the value at once) if the case is severe.

There is another option, which is a color system of warning level. Please note that there has not been discussion on this particular point yet, but we will let you know if there is.
Green- Level 1, equivalent to one warning
Blue- Level 2, equivalent to two warnings
Yellow- Level 3, denoting 1-3 days of suspension time total
Orange- Level 4, denoting 4-7 days of suspension time total
Red- Level 5, denoting more than 7 days of suspension time total, and also denoting that the next offense will likely result in a ban
Black- banned from Senate

This also means that after being suspended once, each subsequent infraction results in more suspensions (not necessarily of more time), not further warnings.

Please give us your feedback, as this is not 100% set in stone yet besides the part about being a little more watchful.
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Postby Potenco » Fri May 24, 2013 5:36 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Potenco wrote:I do think a standard Fasces is kind of austere looking though and seems almost too authoritative. Why not a pink fasces or rainbow rods. That would be cute and symbolize the nations dedication to tolerance and equality.


Then that would reinforce the anti-"Gaystapo" crowd.


I think the left is strong enough on here to do it :D
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Postby TaQud » Fri May 24, 2013 5:39 pm

NSG Senate Administrators wrote:In light of TGR's ban, the Senate administration team will likely be more active in upcoming weeks about cracking down on those who disrupt the peaceful nature of this RP. No longer will slander be the only qualification to get a warning, but general disruption of the Senate will be a qualification as well. People who already have a history are especially reminded to keep calm. As a reminder, those who have warnings:
Costa Alegria-2
The God Realm-1
The Treorai-1

The administration team is likely to continue to follow the path laid out in the Ethics Act, which provides for two warnings before suspension, which is determined by the team. However, we may move to double warnings (twice the value at once) if the case is severe.

There is another option, which is a color system of warning level. Please note that there has not been discussion on this particular point yet, but we will let you know if there is.
Green- Level 1, equivalent to one warning
Blue- Level 2, equivalent to two warnings
Yellow- Level 3, denoting 1-3 days of suspension time total
Orange- Level 4, denoting 4-7 days of suspension time total
Red- Level 5, denoting more than 7 days of suspension time total, and also denoting that the next offense will likely result in a ban
Black- banned from Senate

This also means that after being suspended once, each subsequent infraction results in more suspensions (not necessarily of more time), not further warnings.

Please give us your feedback, as this is not 100% set in stone yet besides the part about being a little more watchful.

i suggest a post past suspension = automatic ban from senate
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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Fri May 24, 2013 5:41 pm

TaQud wrote:
NSG Senate Administrators wrote:In light of TGR's ban, the Senate administration team will likely be more active in upcoming weeks about cracking down on those who disrupt the peaceful nature of this RP. No longer will slander be the only qualification to get a warning, but general disruption of the Senate will be a qualification as well. People who already have a history are especially reminded to keep calm. As a reminder, those who have warnings:
Costa Alegria-2
The God Realm-1
The Treorai-1

The administration team is likely to continue to follow the path laid out in the Ethics Act, which provides for two warnings before suspension, which is determined by the team. However, we may move to double warnings (twice the value at once) if the case is severe.

There is another option, which is a color system of warning level. Please note that there has not been discussion on this particular point yet, but we will let you know if there is.
Green- Level 1, equivalent to one warning
Blue- Level 2, equivalent to two warnings
Yellow- Level 3, denoting 1-3 days of suspension time total
Orange- Level 4, denoting 4-7 days of suspension time total
Red- Level 5, denoting more than 7 days of suspension time total, and also denoting that the next offense will likely result in a ban
Black- banned from Senate

This also means that after being suspended once, each subsequent infraction results in more suspensions (not necessarily of more time), not further warnings.

Please give us your feedback, as this is not 100% set in stone yet besides the part about being a little more watchful.

i suggest a post past suspension = automatic ban from senate

That sounds interesting. It will be discussed.

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Postby TaQud » Fri May 24, 2013 5:44 pm

also another suggestion is that we drop the red part of the warning levels.

If you haven't learned your lesson after 4-7 days of suspension and than flame or slander, than i think you should get ze banned from the Senate
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Postby Diopolis » Fri May 24, 2013 5:46 pm

NSG Senate Administrators wrote:In light of TGR's ban, the Senate administration team will likely be more active in upcoming weeks about cracking down on those who disrupt the peaceful nature of this RP. No longer will slander be the only qualification to get a warning, but general disruption of the Senate will be a qualification as well. People who already have a history are especially reminded to keep calm. As a reminder, those who have warnings:
Costa Alegria-2
The God Realm-1
The Treorai-1

The administration team is likely to continue to follow the path laid out in the Ethics Act, which provides for two warnings before suspension, which is determined by the team. However, we may move to double warnings (twice the value at once) if the case is severe.

There is another option, which is a color system of warning level. Please note that there has not been discussion on this particular point yet, but we will let you know if there is.
Green- Level 1, equivalent to one warning
Blue- Level 2, equivalent to two warnings
Yellow- Level 3, denoting 1-3 days of suspension time total
Orange- Level 4, denoting 4-7 days of suspension time total
Red- Level 5, denoting more than 7 days of suspension time total, and also denoting that the next offense will likely result in a ban
Black- banned from Senate

This also means that after being suspended once, each subsequent infraction results in more suspensions (not necessarily of more time), not further warnings.

Please give us your feedback, as this is not 100% set in stone yet besides the part about being a little more watchful.

Perhaps an ability to make a longer suspension time without a ban? Just a suggestion.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 24, 2013 5:47 pm

TaQud wrote:also another suggestion is that we drop the red part of the warning levels.

If you haven't learned your lesson after 4-7 days of suspension and than flame or slander, than i think you should get ze banned from the Senate


That one sounds reasonable to me too.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri May 24, 2013 5:47 pm

Diopolis wrote:
NSG Senate Administrators wrote:In light of TGR's ban, the Senate administration team will likely be more active in upcoming weeks about cracking down on those who disrupt the peaceful nature of this RP. No longer will slander be the only qualification to get a warning, but general disruption of the Senate will be a qualification as well. People who already have a history are especially reminded to keep calm. As a reminder, those who have warnings:
Costa Alegria-2
The God Realm-1
The Treorai-1

The administration team is likely to continue to follow the path laid out in the Ethics Act, which provides for two warnings before suspension, which is determined by the team. However, we may move to double warnings (twice the value at once) if the case is severe.

There is another option, which is a color system of warning level. Please note that there has not been discussion on this particular point yet, but we will let you know if there is.
Green- Level 1, equivalent to one warning
Blue- Level 2, equivalent to two warnings
Yellow- Level 3, denoting 1-3 days of suspension time total
Orange- Level 4, denoting 4-7 days of suspension time total
Red- Level 5, denoting more than 7 days of suspension time total, and also denoting that the next offense will likely result in a ban
Black- banned from Senate

This also means that after being suspended once, each subsequent infraction results in more suspensions (not necessarily of more time), not further warnings.

Please give us your feedback, as this is not 100% set in stone yet besides the part about being a little more watchful.

Perhaps an ability to make a longer suspension time without a ban? Just a suggestion.

7 days of suspension ought to be enough to teach someone not to flame again.
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Postby Diopolis » Fri May 24, 2013 5:50 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Perhaps an ability to make a longer suspension time without a ban? Just a suggestion.

7 days of suspension ought to be enough to teach someone not to flame again.

I was talking about those who flame the amount to get a red warning, but over the course of a fairly long time. Perhaps a system for warning levels going down over time would work better?
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Postby Polvia » Fri May 24, 2013 6:06 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Geilinor wrote:7 days of suspension ought to be enough to teach someone not to flame again.

I was talking about those who flame the amount to get a red warning, but over the course of a fairly long time. Perhaps a system for warning levels going down over time would work better?

^This. Periods of time with good behavior should perhaps lower the level a Senator is at. Of course with more series offenders needing much longer time to reduce their level.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Fri May 24, 2013 6:58 pm

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Hippostania wrote:No, it doesn't. If it did, it wouldn't be used today. National emblem of France that was adopted in 1995 (though the original design dates back to early 20's), and there are dozens of police departments in the US alone, not to mention the national police departments of Norway and Sweden that adopted the fasces long after Mussolini rose to power. Cameroon adopted a coat of arms that prominiently features two fascis in 1986.
Just because you associate fasces with fascism doesn't mean anything.It is generally seen as a symbol of power and authority as it had been seen for centuries before Mussolini.

It does, since you're a known Nazi sympathizer, and have gradually put Nazi and fascist style iconography into everything (the Germanic language, the Nazi-styled eagle for the Aurentisë Näsioonaalfrönt, and now a fasces on your municipality logo).

I don't really care though, it's your municipality. If you start trying to foist the pseudo-Nazi iconography on everyone else, be assured I'll vote against it.

Fasces doesn't mean fascism. Because if it is, then US is screwed

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Postby Geilinor » Fri May 24, 2013 6:59 pm

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
Lemanrussland wrote:It does, since you're a known Nazi sympathizer, and have gradually put Nazi and fascist style iconography into everything (the Germanic language, the Nazi-styled eagle for the Aurentisë Näsioonaalfrönt, and now a fasces on your municipality logo).

I don't really care though, it's your municipality. If you start trying to foist the pseudo-Nazi iconography on everyone else, be assured I'll vote against it.

Fasces doesn't mean fascism. Because if it is, then US is screwed

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Which is why I don't understand the controversy.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Fri May 24, 2013 7:00 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Fasces doesn't mean fascism. Because if it is, then US is screwed

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Which is why I don't understand the controversy.

And frankly, I love fasces symbol :)
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Postby Quirina » Fri May 24, 2013 8:10 pm

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Which is why I don't understand the controversy.

And frankly, I love fasces symbol :)

I liked that symbol too, back then when I was just a highschool stud who happens to be fascinated in the SS.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Fri May 24, 2013 8:35 pm

The Fasces is a roman symbol of unity, justice, and authority, the is what the Fascists used it, why the French use it, and the USA use it. It is a good symbol for a nation to use, I approve of using a golden fasces on our national symbolage.
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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Fri May 24, 2013 8:48 pm

We have an update from the last post. Red has been eliminated based on both admin and senator feedback.
Green- Level 1, equivalent to one warning
Blue- Level 2, equivalent to two warnings
Yellow- Level 3, denoting 1-3 days of suspension time total
Orange- Level 4, denoting 4+ days of suspension time total, and also denoting that the next offense will likely result in a ban
Black- banned from Senate

Further points:
-After being suspended once, each subsequent infraction results in more suspensions (not necessarily of more time), not further warnings.
-Posting past suspension results in an automatic upgrade to the next level of delinquency
-Here is a tentative plan for decreasing warning levels:
-From Green to None: 2 weeks
-From Blue to Green: 3 weeks
-From Yellow to Blue: 5 weeks
-From Orange to Yellow: 6 weeks
-From Black to Orange: Admin discretion after 8 weeks

As always, feedback is encouraged.

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Fri May 24, 2013 8:52 pm

What will be considered a warnable offense? Is this an implied extension of the Ethics Act?
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Postby Geilinor » Fri May 24, 2013 9:20 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:What will be considered a warnable offense? Is this an implied extension of the Ethics Act?

For now, it's collaborative admin-enforced decree. We could always put it in a bill. The Discipline Act or something.
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Postby Jehuddah » Fri May 24, 2013 10:45 pm

Username/Nation Name: Jehuddah
Date that you joined the forum: Jehuddah joined on 23.4.2013
History of Bans: Jehuddah was never banned
Your Party of Choice (ex. PCP; IND for independent): Jehuddah makes a political party.

Official Party Name: Nationalist Militarist Party
Brief Summary of Platform (give only three; ex. Democracy, Freedom, etc.): Ethnic Nationalism, Cultural Isolationism, Aggressive Militarism
Party Color/s: Blue and White
Party Abbreviation (ex. "DP" for Democratic Party): NMP
Chairman: Jehuddah
Members
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Political test:
91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric

The Nationalist Militarist Party Headquarters:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=241535&p=14484567#p14484567
Likes: Revisionist Zionism, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Greater Israel, Cultural conservatism, Population transfer of the Arabs, Cultural isolationism, Militarism, Strong government
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri May 24, 2013 10:57 pm

Jehuddah wrote:Username/Nation Name: Jehuddah
Date that you joined the forum: Jehuddah joined on 23.4.2013
History of Bans: Jehuddah was never banned
Your Party of Choice (ex. PCP; IND for independent): Jehuddah makes a political party.

Official Party Name: Nationalist Militarist Party
Brief Summary of Platform (give only three; ex. Democracy, Freedom, etc.): Ethnic Nationalism, Cultural Isolationism, Aggressive Militarism
Party Color/s: Blue and White
Party Abbreviation (ex. "DP" for Democratic Party): NMP
Chairman: Jehuddah
Members
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You might want to check out the NIFP, whose thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=237804
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Fri May 24, 2013 11:02 pm

Jehuddah wrote:Username/Nation Name: Jehuddah
Date that you joined the forum: Jehuddah joined on 23.4.2013
History of Bans: Jehuddah was never banned
Your Party of Choice (ex. PCP; IND for independent): Jehuddah makes a political party.

Official Party Name: Nationalist Militarist Party
Brief Summary of Platform (give only three; ex. Democracy, Freedom, etc.): Ethnic Nationalism, Cultural Isolationism, Aggressive Militarism
Party Color/s: Blue and White
Party Abbreviation (ex. "DP" for Democratic Party): NMP
Chairman: Jehuddah
Members
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I can already tell that this will be a huge success.
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Postby Jehuddah » Fri May 24, 2013 11:13 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Jehuddah wrote:Username/Nation Name: Jehuddah
Date that you joined the forum: Jehuddah joined on 23.4.2013
History of Bans: Jehuddah was never banned
Your Party of Choice (ex. PCP; IND for independent): Jehuddah makes a political party.

Official Party Name: Nationalist Militarist Party
Brief Summary of Platform (give only three; ex. Democracy, Freedom, etc.): Ethnic Nationalism, Cultural Isolationism, Aggressive Militarism
Party Color/s: Blue and White
Party Abbreviation (ex. "DP" for Democratic Party): NMP
Chairman: Jehuddah
Members
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
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You might want to check out the NIFP, whose thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=237804

I don't think so, I'm anti-Imperialist, and Capitalist, not corporatist.
Aswell as that they accept any minorities which go to the army, I'm against.
AND they seem to be Civic Nationalists, not Ethnic.
They support "Green economy", and rehabilitation for some criminals (I believe only in punishment).

To the point, they are way much to my left.
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Political test:
91% Nationalistic
57% Fundementalist
88% Reactionary
92% Authoritarian
31% Capitalistic
99% Militaristic
63% Anthropocentric

The Nationalist Militarist Party Headquarters:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=241535&p=14484567#p14484567
Likes: Revisionist Zionism, Jewish Ethnic Nationalism, Greater Israel, Cultural conservatism, Population transfer of the Arabs, Cultural isolationism, Militarism, Strong government
Dislikes: Antisemitism, Anti Zionism, Anti-nationalism, civic nationalism, "Two states for two peoples", Bi-National solution, Liberalism, Socialism, Communism

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