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Gallifrey Express
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Postby Gallifrey Express » Wed May 15, 2013 9:42 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Gallifrey Express wrote:Oh. Well I didn't read.

And I'd prefer Galley. I like being a ship.

*Contemplates creating a Man-O-War puppet for purposes of transparent one-upmanship.*

Bitch please, my name is cutesy. You'd just be a ship.

Besides, I've got mother fucking TARDIS. :P
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Postby Liriena » Wed May 15, 2013 9:43 pm

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Sometimes, I hate South Park...

...other times, they nail it.


Why? The show is fantastic, awesome and pure in every single way. Yay.


It's just...sometimes I feel they make a very obscene strawman out of some ideologies.
Their socio-political criticism is mostly perfect...but sometimes I feel they try to be a bit too edgy, giving the finger to both sides of the socio-political spectrum, regardless of the validity of the arguments coming from both sides.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed May 15, 2013 9:43 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:Cool. Hi Galley. :P

Hi Indi :P

Nice to meet you. :P
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Postby Menassa » Wed May 15, 2013 9:44 pm

Now that I suppose we're done arguing... what's that symbol in the title?

Is Greater than 3 some sort of sign?

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed May 15, 2013 9:45 pm

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Postby Gallifrey Express » Wed May 15, 2013 9:45 pm

Menassa wrote:Now that I suppose we're done arguing... what's that symbol in the title?

Is Greater than 3 some sort of sign?

It's a heart :P

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Gallifrey Express wrote:Hi Indi :P

Nice to meet you. :P

And the same to you ^-^

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed May 15, 2013 9:45 pm

Liriena wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Why? The show is fantastic, awesome and pure in every single way. Yay.


It's just...sometimes I feel they make a very obscene strawman out of some ideologies.
Their socio-political criticism is mostly perfect...but sometimes I feel they try to be a bit too edgy, giving the finger to both sides of the socio-political spectrum, regardless of the validity of the arguments coming from both sides.


I dunno, I think good satire tends to mock both the left and the right for their excesses and frankly, stupidity. I don't know if it's as much about being "edgy" as it is about teasing what they think deserves to be teased.

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Postby Liriena » Wed May 15, 2013 9:47 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Liriena wrote:
It's just...sometimes I feel they make a very obscene strawman out of some ideologies.
Their socio-political criticism is mostly perfect...but sometimes I feel they try to be a bit too edgy, giving the finger to both sides of the socio-political spectrum, regardless of the validity of the arguments coming from both sides.


I dunno, I think good satire tends to mock both the left and the right for their excesses and frankly, stupidity. I don't know if it's as much about being "edgy" as it is about teasing what they think deserves to be teased.


Mind you...I still love them 80-90% of the times.
I particularly loved Margaritaville.
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Postby Orham » Wed May 15, 2013 9:47 pm

Menassa wrote:Galatians 3:24


I suppose, but for the most part I was interested in how to sway states where public opinion is either mixed or primarily opposed. I mean, a sizable portion of the US (22 states) still seems to have support data beneath majority support:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opi ... s#By_state

And then there's the problem of amended state constitutions. There are 30 of them, so it's a fairly serious problem. Should efforts be aimed at changing public opinion, or challenging the legal basis of the amendments? Where is energy best spent?
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed May 15, 2013 9:47 pm

Gallifrey Express wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:*Contemplates creating a Man-O-War puppet for purposes of transparent one-upmanship.*

Bitch please, my name is cutesy. You'd just be a ship.

Besides, I've got mother fucking TARDIS. :P

Well I am a time-traveling Deinonychosaurid. So I think we would be better off teaming up and fighting crime or something.

Unless you need a new arch-rival. You must be lonely now that the Master is gone and the Daleks have humpbacks.
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Postby Gallifrey Express » Wed May 15, 2013 9:49 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Gallifrey Express wrote:Bitch please, my name is cutesy. You'd just be a ship.

Besides, I've got mother fucking TARDIS. :P

Well I am a time-traveling Deinonychosaurid. So I think we would be better off teaming up and fighting crime or something.

Unless you need a new arch-rival. You must be lonely now that the Master is gone and the Daleks have humpbacks.

Master? Gone? No, he's in the Time war. He'll be back, I'm certain of it. He always comes back.

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Postby Menassa » Wed May 15, 2013 9:51 pm

Orham wrote:
Menassa wrote:Galatians 3:24


I suppose, but for the most part I was interested in how to sway states where public opinion is either mixed or primarily opposed. I mean, a sizable portion of the US (22 states) still seems to have support data beneath majority support:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opi ... s#By_state

And then there's the problem of amended state constitutions. There are 30 of them, so it's a fairly serious problem. Should efforts be aimed at changing public opinion, or challenging the legal basis of the amendments? Where is energy best spent?

Changing public opinion, the people will then go to the State.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed May 15, 2013 9:52 pm

Liriena wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
I dunno, I think good satire tends to mock both the left and the right for their excesses and frankly, stupidity. I don't know if it's as much about being "edgy" as it is about teasing what they think deserves to be teased.


Mind you...I still love them 80-90% of the times.
I particularly loved Margaritaville.


Oh yeah, the whole "debt" bit with Kyle and parallels to Christ. All great stuff haha.

I actually liked the F-word one, as well as the one that satirized Glenn Beck.

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Postby Orham » Wed May 15, 2013 9:52 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:Throw glitter at them?


Yes. Fly crop dusters loaded down with glitter over South Carolina and cover the area in a shimmering mist. That oughta change public opinion. Probably not in the way LGBT supporters would prefer, though...
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Postby Liriena » Wed May 15, 2013 9:54 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Liriena wrote:
Mind you...I still love them 80-90% of the times.
I particularly loved Margaritaville.


Oh yeah, the whole "debt" bit with Kyle and parallels to Christ. All great stuff haha.

I actually liked the F-word one, as well as the one that satirized Glenn Beck.

I never got to watch the full episode. :(
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed May 15, 2013 9:55 pm

Orham wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:Throw glitter at them?


Yes. Fly crop dusters loaded down with glitter over South Carolina and cover the area in a shimmering mist. That oughta change public opinion. Probably not in the way LGBT supporters would prefer, though...


You know, I don't care for your negative nancying. Ok? I was trying to offer a cereal solution to a cereal problem.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed May 15, 2013 9:55 pm

Liriena wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
Oh yeah, the whole "debt" bit with Kyle and parallels to Christ. All great stuff haha.

I actually liked the F-word one, as well as the one that satirized Glenn Beck.

I never got to watch the full episode. :(


Just watch it at South Park studios.

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Postby Orham » Wed May 15, 2013 9:56 pm

Menassa wrote:Changing public opinion, the people will then go to the State.


That is a tall order, but I think it can be managed. Support in a lot of those states may not be a majority, but it's not really absent. There's a chance. And with my not being a lawyer, I don't actually know whether those amendments could be successfully challenged.
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Postby Liriena » Wed May 15, 2013 9:56 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Liriena wrote:I never got to watch the full episode. :(


Just watch it at South Park studios.


When I have the time... /cronic procrastinator
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed May 15, 2013 9:57 pm

Liriena wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:Oh yeah, the whole "debt" bit with Kyle and parallels to Christ. All great stuff haha.

I actually liked the F-word one, as well as the one that satirized Glenn Beck.

I never got to watch the full episode. :(

They're almost all online on their website, save "Super Best Friends", something mocking Scientology (not the Tom Cruise one), and episodes 200 and 201.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed May 15, 2013 9:57 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Liriena wrote:I never got to watch the full episode. :(

They're almost all online on their website, save "Super Best Friends", something mocking Scientology (not the Tom Cruise one), and episodes 200 and 201.


Is 200 and 201 the Mohammed one?

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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed May 15, 2013 9:59 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:They're almost all online on their website, save "Super Best Friends", something mocking Scientology (not the Tom Cruise one), and episodes 200 and 201.

Is 200 and 201 the Mohammed one?

If you're asking about the one where all of the celebrities are trying to get Mohammed "goo" so that they couldn't be criticized, yes.
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Postby Orham » Wed May 15, 2013 9:59 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:You know, I don't care for your negative nancying. Ok? I was trying to offer a cereal solution to a cereal problem.


Well, the problem isn't the shimmering mist. It's the absence of an adorable animal mascot. Say, a squirrel in a leather aviation helmet?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed May 15, 2013 10:00 pm

Orham wrote:
Menassa wrote:Galatians 3:24


I suppose, but for the most part I was interested in how to sway states where public opinion is either mixed or primarily opposed. I mean, a sizable portion of the US (22 states) still seems to have support data beneath majority support:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opi ... s#By_state

And then there's the problem of amended state constitutions. There are 30 of them, so it's a fairly serious problem. Should efforts be aimed at changing public opinion, or challenging the legal basis of the amendments? Where is energy best spent?

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Postby Menassa » Wed May 15, 2013 10:02 pm

Orham wrote:
Menassa wrote:Changing public opinion, the people will then go to the State.


That is a tall order, but I think it can be managed. Support in a lot of those states may not be a majority, but it's not really absent. There's a chance. And with my not being a lawyer, I don't actually know whether those amendments could be successfully challenged.

The Government is at the will of the people no?

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