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Labour Party
91
18%
Conservative and Unionist Party (Tories)
94
19%
Liberal-Democrats (Lib-dems)
70
14%
Monster Raving Loony Party
31
6%
UKIP
63
13%
BNP
24
5%
The breakaway UK parties (Plaid Cymru/SNP/Sinn Fein etc.)
38
8%
Green Party
54
11%
Other (please list)
38
8%
 
Total votes : 503

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Nationalist State of Knox
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:02 pm

Nouvel Ecosse wrote:
Mollary wrote:As an Englishman I'd just like to say: "PLEASE DON'T LEAVE, WE REALLY LIKE YOU!"


As a Scotsman please refer to the poster who says that we should leave because we "Scrounge".

I'm good friends with lots of English people. You are not the problem. It is a) Westminster and b) Middle England as a general.

You should join with us Northerners and leave the South to fend for them-bloody-selves.
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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:02 pm

Heavenly Peace wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you've legitimately just not paid attention to the Scottish Independence debate for a decade and never wondered why everyone has stopped talking about "English subsidies".


Scotland does get a net subsidy from belonging to the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16477990

The subsidy is actually smaller than the profit Scotland brings into the UK.
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Frazers
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Postby Frazers » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:03 pm

Soviet Post Punk wrote:
Frazers wrote:Don't worry, the lodges will get it all straightened out :p

i'm assuming the opinion of fat drunk sabre rattlers won't go as far as they can be thrown.


The actions of determined, respectable, and highly organised members of the community will, and has historically, go a long long way.

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Mollary
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Postby Mollary » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:03 pm

Nouvel Ecosse wrote:
Mollary wrote:As an Englishman I'd just like to say: "PLEASE DON'T LEAVE, WE REALLY LIKE YOU!"


As a Scotsman please refer to the poster who says that we should leave because we "Scrounge".

I'm good friends with lots of English people. You are not the problem. It is a) Westminster and b) Middle England as a general.

But it's not just that we like you, you also give us labour seats. Without you we'll become a tory-tatorship. Also I'm from Middle England, we're not all so bad. Well, apart from the majority...
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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:03 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Nouvel Ecosse wrote:
As a Scotsman please refer to the poster who says that we should leave because we "Scrounge".

I'm good friends with lots of English people. You are not the problem. It is a) Westminster and b) Middle England as a general.

You should join with us Northerners and leave the South to fend for them-bloody-selves.

The United Kingdom of Scotland and the North.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Alimprad
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Postby Alimprad » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:04 pm

ukip or bnp, dont mind how you wish to go about getting rid of immigrants and leaving EU.
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Nationalist State of Knox
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:04 pm

Mollary wrote:
Nouvel Ecosse wrote:
As a Scotsman please refer to the poster who says that we should leave because we "Scrounge".

I'm good friends with lots of English people. You are not the problem. It is a) Westminster and b) Middle England as a general.

But it's not just that we like you, you also give us labour seats. Without you we'll become a tory-tatorship. Also I'm from Middle England, we're not all so bad. Well, apart from the majority...

Middle England, AKA The South.
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Harlow East
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Founded: Dec 11, 2012
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Postby Harlow East » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:04 pm

Labour #DealWithIt #IDGAFWhatyouthink
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Of the Free Socialist Territories
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Founded: Feb 12, 2012
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:04 pm

Heavenly Peace wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you've legitimately just not paid attention to the Scottish Independence debate for a decade and never wondered why everyone has stopped talking about "English subsidies".


Scotland does get a net subsidy from belonging to the UK, i.e. Scotland gets more out of the Union than it puts in.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16477990


You didn't read the article, did you? I've put the best bit in the last half in blue, but the rest is worth reading.

But Alex Salmond and his supporters have a more basic objection (phew), which is that the revenue figures for Scotland make no mention of North Sea oil. These are falling, but were still more than £6bn in 2009-10.

If you add in a proportion of those revenues, in line with Scotland's share of the UK population, it makes very little difference to the overall story. But if you say that more than 90% of the oil revenues are Scottish, as Mr Salmond would consider geographically appropriate, then you get Scotland 'putting in' £48.1bn in tax revenues in 2009-10, not £42.7bn.

Put it another way: Scotland provided 9.4% of total UK revenues and got 'only' 9.2% of UK public spending in return.

Now of course, the UK Treasury doesn't agree that the oil revenues belong to Scotland, and it almost certainly never will. In fact, as any Scottish Nationalist will happily tell you, it was the Treasury that helped to invent a new extra-territorial category of national output for North Sea oil, in the 1970s. Treasury statisticians will tell you it made sense to keep the oil sector separate from the broader UK economy. Mr Salmond will tell you it was a Whitehall plot to steal the oil from the Scots.

So there are two numbers to choose from, depending on whether you take a Whitehall view of oil, or the view from Holyrood.

On the Treasury view, the gap between spending and revenues in Scotland for 2009-10 was £3,150 per head. On the Scottish Nationalist view, the gap between spending and revenues was closer to £2,130.

Please, take your pick. All I ask is you bear in mind one other number - related to one other obvious, but very important fact. Namely, that Scotland is not the only part of the UK that is currently spending more than it raises in revenues.

If you apply the same kind calculation to the UK as a whole, the net 'subsidy' for the average person was well over £2,000 last year.

So Scotland and England do have that in common, after all.
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Frazers
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Postby Frazers » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:05 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:You should join with us Northerners and leave the South to fend for them-bloody-selves.

The United Kingdom of Scotland and the North.


That would be as confusing as Southern Ireland being more north than Northern Ireland.

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Nationalist State of Knox
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:05 pm

Alimprad wrote:ukip or bnp, dont mind how you wish to go about getting rid of immigrants and leaving EU.

How about Labour Camps and Genocide? They've been pretty effective in the past.
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Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/
Impeach Enlil, legalise dreaming, mortality is theft. GILGAMESH 2474 BC

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Nouvel Ecosse
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Postby Nouvel Ecosse » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:05 pm

Heavenly Peace wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you've legitimately just not paid attention to the Scottish Independence debate for a decade and never wondered why everyone has stopped talking about "English subsidies".


Scotland does get a net subsidy from belonging to the UK, i.e. Scotland gets more out of the Union than it puts in.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16477990

"Scottish Executive figures for 2009-10 show that spending per capita in Scotland was £11,370, versus £10,320 for the UK. In other words, spending in Scotland was £1,030 - or 10% higher - per head of population than the UK average."


"Scotland provided 9.4% of total UK revenues and got 'only' 9.2% of UK public spending in return. "

Same source.

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Soviet Post Punk
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Postby Soviet Post Punk » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:05 pm

Frazers wrote:The actions of determined, respectable, and highly organised members of the community will, and has historically, go a long long way.

one wonders how respectable someone who identifies by an organisation renowned for essentially baiting the irish and arranging faux military parades out of masturbatory fantasy, with a proud history of "highly organised" violence can actually be.
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Mollary
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Postby Mollary » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:05 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Mollary wrote:But it's not just that we like you, you also give us labour seats. Without you we'll become a tory-tatorship. Also I'm from Middle England, we're not all so bad. Well, apart from the majority...

Middle England, AKA The South.

Yep, born in Kent raised in Wiltshire. AKA Margret Thatcher fan club land.
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Nationalist State of Knox
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:05 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:You should join with us Northerners and leave the South to fend for them-bloody-selves.

The United Kingdom of Scotland and the North.

Yes.

Yes.
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Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/
Impeach Enlil, legalise dreaming, mortality is theft. GILGAMESH 2474 BC

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Souseiseki
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:06 pm

Heavenly Peace wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you've legitimately just not paid attention to the Scottish Independence debate for a decade and never wondered why everyone has stopped talking about "English subsidies".


Scotland does get a net subsidy from belonging to the UK, i.e. Scotland gets more out of the Union than it puts in.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16477990

"Put it another way: Scotland provided 9.4% of total UK revenues and got 'only' 9.2% of UK public spending in return. "

Hey, that sounds familiar!

"In 2010-11, total expenditure for Scotland by the UK Government, Scottish Government and other tiers of the public sector, including a per capita share of debt interest payments, was £63.8 billion. This totals 9.3% of total UK public sector expenditure.

In 2010-11, total Scottish non-North Sea public sector revenue was estimated at £45.2 billion (8.3% of UK equivalent). When our geographical share of North Sea revenue is included, total Scottish revenue was £53.1 billion (9.6% of UK total public sector revenue)."
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Postby Sibirsky » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:06 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Sibirsky wrote:Source?

I'll provide a countersource, if you don't mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w4PoQbgUiA

I do not. In fact I appreciate and encourage your input.
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Postby Frazers » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:06 pm

Soviet Post Punk wrote:
Frazers wrote:The actions of determined, respectable, and highly organised members of the community will, and has historically, go a long long way.

one wonders how respectable someone who identifies by an organisation renowned for essentially baiting the irish and arranging faux military parades out of masturbatory fantasy, with a proud history of "highly organised" violence can actually be.


Yes, yes i'm aware of the media portrayal of any group in NI which raises it's head above the parapet as murderous thugs.

It's totally not news to me that the bias is there.

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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:06 pm

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Calorax
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Postby Calorax » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:06 pm

I'm a signed up member of the Lib Dems and I campaign for them quite regularly. I'm more on the social democratic side. I'm also a fan of the Green Party, and have signed up to that as well.
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Postby Royal Witch Realm » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:06 pm

The Military Party Of Britain, Special Air Service and all relevent. thank you. :)

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Baiynistan
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Postby Baiynistan » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:07 pm

I'd probably be (and have considered becoming) a Labour Party member who was part of a Euston Manifesto cell, should such a clique exist.

I don't like the Party's current line, but why bother making a minute split-off party when you can just strive to change the big, already established party into something you feel more content with?
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Postby Nouvel Ecosse » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:07 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Mollary wrote:But it's not just that we like you, you also give us labour seats. Without you we'll become a tory-tatorship. Also I'm from Middle England, we're not all so bad. Well, apart from the majority...

Middle England, AKA The South.


Middle Class England was to whom I was referring.

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:07 pm

Alimprad wrote:ukip or bnp, dont mind how you wish to go about getting rid of immigrants and leaving EU.


So you support racism.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21921089

The table in there is very important, because it essentially shows that immigration from Eastern Europe benefits Britain and that Eastern European immigrants tend to use the welfare system less than "native-born" British people.
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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:08 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Arglorand wrote:The United Kingdom of Scotland and the North.

Yes.

Yes.

Would even more eagerly move to Scotland if this happened.
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