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Nationstatelandsville
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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:04 pm

"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Seshephe » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:07 pm

Agritum wrote:
Seshephe wrote:
What makes you think that he even existed? As near as I can tell the evidence suggests that he was just as fictional as Hercules...

Historians usually agree that there was atleast some hippie guy in Palestine during the years of Roman rule that did things against the government, got killed for them and this happening made him pivotal to one of the biggest religions in the world.

On the other hand, opinions regarding if he was really the Christ vary wildly from person to person. And there is no actual source to his "divinity" other than, well, the Bible and early Christian sources.


Not all historians, the majority still does out of convention because it is a matter that most have simply assumed to be true. There isn't much of an argument for the proposition though, apart from the bible itself and a few doctored documents. Even the bible turns out to be a good argument against the idea that Christ was originally intended to be a historical figure, if read in the context of earlier sources etc.
Personally I tend to agree with the historians that point out that there is simply no good evidence that such a person as Jesus ever existed. Did a person called Jesus exist at that period? Undoubtedly there were hundreds if not thousands. Did anyone do magic tricks and try to convince people that they were the messiah? Dozens at the very least. Were any killed? Oh yes. In the way that Jesus is portrayed to have been killed in the bible? Highly doubtful because the account does not make any sense from what we know of Roman and Jewish customs in such matters. Were there provocative Rabbi with new ideas from Platonic, New-Platonic, mystery religion and eastern schools of thought? Of course there were. Can any of them in any meaningful sense be said to have been the Jesus of Nazareth described in the bible? Highly doubtful.


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Postby Seshephe » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:10 pm

AETEN II wrote:
Seshephe wrote:
What makes you think that he even existed? As near as I can tell the evidence suggests that he was just as fictional as Hercules...

Actually there is a fair amount of evidence, including of documentation if I remember correctly. Same with Muhammad.

Also, most people from myths were actually real. The myths or mythos that followed them were simply bloated.

And Nat, I live in California. Whole new levels of stupid. I've met people here who didn't know a single word of the Constitution.

Not really. The evidence for mohammad is incredibly poor. There is quite allot of evidence for a powerful commander that was the model on which many of the stories were based. But that person was not anything like moahmmed.


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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:12 pm

While this is a conversation I am interested in, this is not NSG.
"Then I was fertilized and grew wise;
From a word to a word I was led to a word,
From a work to a work I was led to a work."
- Odin, Hávamál 138-141, the Poetic Edda, as translated by Dan McCoy.

I enjoy meta-humor and self-deprecation. Annoying, right?

Goodbye.

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Postby Seshephe » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:13 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:While this is a conversation I am interested in, this is not NSG.

I didn't start it dear :p


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Postby Olthar » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:14 pm

Seshephe wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:While this is a conversation I am interested in, this is not NSG.

I didn't start it dear :p

Doesn't mean you can't end it. ;)
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Postby Seshephe » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:15 pm

Olthar wrote:
Seshephe wrote:I didn't start it dear :p

Doesn't mean you can't end it. ;)

It doesn't? :(
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:01 pm

And people complain about my debates...
Ankh Mauta
Pope Joan wrote:I had a client who stole the magnetic flashing light from the top of a police car.

It was parked in front of his house because they were asking his parents about his theft of 100 pounds of copper wire from the high school.


Galloism wrote:I bet it takes a lot of weed to get stoned to death.


New Manvir wrote:Canada: We have flying bears.


greed and death wrote:It is a sad day when we criticize the President for honoring a solider who gave everything for his nation.


Olthar wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... He's twenty.

He's also a moron.

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:02 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:And people complain about my debates...

Ours are actually fun.
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:11 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:And people complain about my debates...

Ours are actually fun.

You just debated whether Jesus existed or not.
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Pope Joan wrote:I had a client who stole the magnetic flashing light from the top of a police car.

It was parked in front of his house because they were asking his parents about his theft of 100 pounds of copper wire from the high school.


Galloism wrote:I bet it takes a lot of weed to get stoned to death.


New Manvir wrote:Canada: We have flying bears.


greed and death wrote:It is a sad day when we criticize the President for honoring a solider who gave everything for his nation.


Olthar wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... He's twenty.

He's also a moron.

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Postby Nude East Ireland » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:16 pm

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Postby Ende » Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:58 pm

The fuck is a NSG doing in this thread?

Not that I mind too much, but it's ridiculously off-topic and that should probably stay back in NSG.

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Nightkill the Emperor
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:01 pm

Holy shit, Norv's history.

Well, there goes my morning.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:07 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Holy shit, Norv's history.

Well, there goes my morning.

Lol, you have to read it, and I don't. :p
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Norvenia
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Postby Norvenia » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:08 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Holy shit, Norv's history.

Well, there goes my morning.


It'll take you less time to read it than it took me to write it. I have no regrets.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:09 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Holy shit, Norv's history.

Well, there goes my morning.

It's a good read though.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:10 pm

Norvenia wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Holy shit, Norv's history.

Well, there goes my morning.


It'll take you less time to read it than it took me to write it. I have no regrets.

Your app is almost 3700 words. It is definitely the longest one I've ever encountered. I've seen entire chapters of fan-fictions smaller than that. :P
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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:17 pm

Night.

Also, sending you something over TG.
Ankh Mauta
Pope Joan wrote:I had a client who stole the magnetic flashing light from the top of a police car.

It was parked in front of his house because they were asking his parents about his theft of 100 pounds of copper wire from the high school.


Galloism wrote:I bet it takes a lot of weed to get stoned to death.


New Manvir wrote:Canada: We have flying bears.


greed and death wrote:It is a sad day when we criticize the President for honoring a solider who gave everything for his nation.


Olthar wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... He's twenty.

He's also a moron.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:19 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:

I was thinking more along the lines of large cargo planes, like this or this, but futuristic.

If you can't think of anything, I got something in mind.

Sure, Pelican is fine.
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Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby AETEN II » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:20 pm

"Quod Vult, Valde Valt"

Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.


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"Because your dad's a whore."

"...He died a week ago."

"Of syphilis, I bet."

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Postby Hardened Pyrokinetics » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:25 pm


Because the "original" looks like ass?
Ankh Mauta
Pope Joan wrote:I had a client who stole the magnetic flashing light from the top of a police car.

It was parked in front of his house because they were asking his parents about his theft of 100 pounds of copper wire from the high school.


Galloism wrote:I bet it takes a lot of weed to get stoned to death.


New Manvir wrote:Canada: We have flying bears.


greed and death wrote:It is a sad day when we criticize the President for honoring a solider who gave everything for his nation.


Olthar wrote:
Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:... He's twenty.

He's also a moron.

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Nightkill the Emperor
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:35 pm

Norvenia wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Holy shit, Norv's history.

Well, there goes my morning.


It'll take you less time to read it than it took me to write it. I have no regrets.

Norv's Diary:

Dear Diary,

I locked myself up in my room. It has been two days. I am running out of food and water.

I am a tenth of the way done with my app.

Help me God.
Hi! I'm Khan, your local misanthropic Indian.
I wear teal, blue & pink for Swith.
P2TM RP Discussion Thread
If you want a good rp, read this shit.
Tiami is cool.
Nat: Night's always in some bizarre state somewhere between "intoxicated enough to kill a hair metal lead singer" and "annoying Mormon missionary sober".

Swith: It's because you're so awesome. God himself refreshes the screen before he types just to see if Nightkill has written anything while he was off somewhere else.

Monfrox wrote:
The balkens wrote:
# went there....

It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Olthar
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Postby Olthar » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:36 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Norvenia wrote:
It'll take you less time to read it than it took me to write it. I have no regrets.

Norv's Diary:

Dear Diary,

I locked myself up in my room. It has been two days. I am running out of food and water.

I am a tenth of the way done with my app.

Help me God.

:rofl:
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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:36 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Norvenia wrote:
It'll take you less time to read it than it took me to write it. I have no regrets.

Norv's Diary:

Dear Diary,

I locked myself up in my room. It has been two days. I am running out of food and water.

I am a tenth of the way done with my app.

Help me God.

:rofl:
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Postby Constaniana » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:37 pm

Hardened Pyrokinetics wrote:

Because the "original" looks like ass?

I agree, it does rather resemble a donkey.
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