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Do you favor impeachment?

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Postby Neo Art » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:19 am

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Impossible because the US military is several times more capable than any combination of plausible adversaries. The US Navy alone is more capable than all other blue water navies combined, including the navies of their NATO allies.

We need more than just a blue water navy! We must also have a white water navy! We aren't safe until we can be sure no commie subs will sneak in through our river rapids!


I say we also form an immediate "red moon rising" navy!
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Postby Tekania » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:33 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:We need more than just a blue water navy! We must also have a white water navy! We aren't safe until we can be sure no commie subs will sneak in through our river rapids!


I say we also form an immediate "red moon rising" navy!


And of course, a Bad Moon Rising navy.
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Postby Liberwa » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:37 pm

I have to laugh a little seeing the responses here. The POTUS' job is to serve the people, not act as some kind of infallible demigod who can't be touched until the elections. If he gets impeached, so what? If someone tries to impeach him, so what? Maybe the assholes in government need a shakedown.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:37 pm

Marshonia wrote:Yes! He will be impeached!!!!
If there is any justice left in America and at that the world, he'll be impeached and if there is even more justice, put on trial for treason. Impeach him today! Impeach him while the window of opportunity is still a sliver open! He will overstep his boundaries once to far. He will! And when he does, he will be caught red handed. If he doesn't there will be Civil War, and I will be there personally to sit back and watch his regime fall. It will be the government and state, vs the people and liberationists. Bring it on Obama. Leave or fire away.

Settle down, one thought at a time. Take a few deep breaths, and try explaining yourself calmly instead of running it all together.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:38 pm

Tekania wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
I say we also form an immediate "red moon rising" navy!


And of course, a Bad Moon Rising navy.

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I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:39 pm

Liberwa wrote:I have to laugh a little seeing the responses here. The POTUS' job is to serve the people, not act as some kind of infallible demigod who can't be touched until the elections. If he gets impeached, so what? If someone tries to impeach him, so what? Maybe the assholes in government need a shakedown.

So, who here has been treating him as an infallible demigod?
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Laerod » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:39 pm

Liberwa wrote:I have to laugh a little seeing the responses here. The POTUS' job is to serve the people, not act as some kind of infallible demigod who can't be touched until the elections. If he gets impeached, so what? If someone tries to impeach him, so what? Maybe the assholes in government need a shakedown.

How exactly would the Republicans impeaching Obama give the Republicans a shakedown? =S

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Postby Liberwa » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:41 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Liberwa wrote:I have to laugh a little seeing the responses here. The POTUS' job is to serve the people, not act as some kind of infallible demigod who can't be touched until the elections. If he gets impeached, so what? If someone tries to impeach him, so what? Maybe the assholes in government need a shakedown.

So, who here has been treating him as an infallible demigod?


Just read the first page of comments. I was using hyperbole, of course, but no one is sympathetic towards the thought of impeaching a corrupt man.

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Postby Liberwa » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:42 pm

Laerod wrote:
Liberwa wrote:I have to laugh a little seeing the responses here. The POTUS' job is to serve the people, not act as some kind of infallible demigod who can't be touched until the elections. If he gets impeached, so what? If someone tries to impeach him, so what? Maybe the assholes in government need a shakedown.

How exactly would the Republicans impeaching Obama give the Republicans a shakedown? =S


Well, it'd be a start. Then when a GOP president gets in, impeach his ass too.

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Postby Liriena » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:44 pm

Bush Jr. never got impeached for any of his civil rights' violations. I don't see why impeaching Obama, who is more popular and has not nearly fucked up as much as Bush Jr., is even remotely possible.
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Postby Nidaria » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:45 pm

As incompetent and corrupt Obama is, there is no good reason to actually impeach him. There is no reason to suppose that his replacement would be any better, too.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:46 pm

Liberwa wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:So, who here has been treating him as an infallible demigod?


Just read the first page of comments. I was using hyperbole, of course, but no one is sympathetic towards the thought of impeaching a corrupt man.

I've read the whole thread. I've seen no one making any defense of him other than "he's not committed any crimes for which he can be impeached". And please explain how he is corrupt.

Edit: adding another reply:

Nidaria wrote:As incompetent and corrupt Obama is, there is no good reason to actually impeach him. There is no reason to suppose that his replacement would be any better, too.

Same request as above.
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:47 pm

Liberwa wrote:I have to laugh a little seeing the responses here. The POTUS' job is to serve the people, not act as some kind of infallible demigod who can't be touched until the elections. If he gets impeached, so what? If someone tries to impeach him, so what? Maybe the assholes in government need a shakedown.


Funny, Clinton was impeached, and nothing has changed.
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Postby Liberwa » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:50 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Liberwa wrote:
Just read the first page of comments. I was using hyperbole, of course, but no one is sympathetic towards the thought of impeaching a corrupt man.

I've read the whole thread. I've seen no one making any defense of him other than "he's not committed any crimes for which he can be impeached". And please explain how he is corrupt.

Edit: adding another reply:

Nidaria wrote:As incompetent and corrupt Obama is, there is no good reason to actually impeach him. There is no reason to suppose that his replacement would be any better, too.

Same request as above.


Fast and furious? Benghazi? Crying over Newtown when drone strikes have likely killed at least dozens of civilians (by one estimate, nearly 150 children)?

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Postby Xsyne » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:52 pm

Laerod wrote:
Liberwa wrote:I have to laugh a little seeing the responses here. The POTUS' job is to serve the people, not act as some kind of infallible demigod who can't be touched until the elections. If he gets impeached, so what? If someone tries to impeach him, so what? Maybe the assholes in government need a shakedown.

How exactly would the Republicans impeaching Obama give the Republicans a shakedown? =S

Do you remember what happened when they impeached Clinton?
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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:03 pm

Liberwa wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:I've read the whole thread. I've seen no one making any defense of him other than "he's not committed any crimes for which he can be impeached". And please explain how he is corrupt.

Edit: adding another reply:


Same request as above.


Fast and furious? Benghazi? Crying over Newtown when drone strikes have likely killed at least dozens of civilians (by one estimate, nearly 150 children)?

Fast and Furious - not his fault.
Benghazi? Not his fault.
Drone strikes? So Obama pilots all drone strikes, but when it's Bush doing it, it's the military that's doing the piloting.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:08 pm

Liberwa wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:I've read the whole thread. I've seen no one making any defense of him other than "he's not committed any crimes for which he can be impeached". And please explain how he is corrupt.

Edit: adding another reply:


Same request as above.


Fast and furious? Benghazi? Crying over Newtown when drone strikes have likely killed at least dozens of civilians (by one estimate, nearly 150 children)?

Gunwalking was begun in 2006, well before he took office, Benghazi and drone strikes have nothing to do with corruption.

edit: I mean, fuck, Benghazi has nothing to do with Obama, period.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:26 pm

Liberwa wrote:
Laerod wrote:How exactly would the Republicans impeaching Obama give the Republicans a shakedown? =S


Well, it'd be a start. Then when a GOP president gets in, impeach his ass too.

You seem confused. I'm referring to the Republicans in congress, which, by any objective measure, are the assholes.

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:31 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:Drone strikes? So Obama pilots all drone strikes, but when it's Bush doing it, it's the military that's doing the piloting.

Hey, it makes perfect sense... according to the short-circuiting neurons in the heads of certain people.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:32 pm

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Drone strikes? So Obama pilots all drone strikes, but when it's Bush doing it, it's the military that's doing the piloting.

Hey, it makes perfect sense... according to the short-circuiting neurons in the heads of certain people.

Or maybe that's their way of admitting that Obama is actually a much, much more competent President than Bush.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:33 pm

Laerod wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Hey, it makes perfect sense... according to the short-circuiting neurons in the heads of certain people.

Or maybe that's their way of admitting that Obama is actually a much, much more competent President than Bush.

It's a strange way to give a complement.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:37 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Laerod wrote:Or maybe that's their way of admitting that Obama is actually a much, much more competent President than Bush.

It's a strange way to give a complement.

They are a strange tribe u_u

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Postby Cyberocracy » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:47 pm

I clicked maybe. There are plenty of legally viable reasons to impeach, but the process is so politicized that it won't happen. The dude could rape an orphanage worth of children and get away with it..
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Postby Laerod » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:49 pm

Cyberocracy wrote:I clicked maybe. There are plenty of legally viable reasons to impeach, but the process is so politicized that it won't happen. The dude could rape an orphanage worth of children and get away with it..

Doubtful.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:51 pm

Cyberocracy wrote:I clicked maybe. There are plenty of legally viable reasons to impeach,

Such as?

but the process is so politicized that it won't happen.

The House that starts the proceedings is firmly in the hands of the GOP.

The dude could rape an orphanage worth of children and get away with it..

Ok, you might want to consider coming back to reality at some point.
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I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
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