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by Mayane » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:40 am
by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:41 am
by Divair » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:42 am
The Armed Republic of Carcenia wrote:I dont understand whats so wrong with religion. Even if it isnt true it gives people a moral compass and makes them want to do the right thing. True some people have misused it over time,but still whats so wrong with it?
by EnragedMaldivians » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:42 am
Blazedtown wrote:EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Yeah, I'm actually quite pro-American.
Sorry if I think the OP should have been more specific in indicating which country he was actually talking about.
Physicians. Wounds. Pots. Kettles. etc.
The OP linked to a Pew study. Pew Surveys are American. Basic reading comprehension would tell you that he's talking about America.
by Typhlochactas » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:43 am
by Maltropia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:43 am
by Catan » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:44 am
The Armed Republic of Carcenia wrote:I dont understand whats so wrong with religion. Even if it isnt true it gives people a moral compass and makes them want to do the right thing. True some people have misused it over time,but still whats so wrong with it?
by Typhlochactas » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:45 am
Typhlochactas wrote:Ovisterra wrote:
We should always tolerate religions. We shouldn't always tolerate the actions of their followers.
If somebody has a worldview that lets them kill other people, then the best way to stop those actions is to get rid of the belief that allows it. If you just stop the action and not the thought behind it, then you're never going to win.
by Southern Patriots » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:45 am
Typhlochactas wrote:Ovisterra wrote:
"If you just stop the action and not the thought behind it, then you're never going to win."
Pray tell how we "stop thoughts".
I believe my actual argument was something like, 'If somebody has a worldview that lets them kill other people, we should get rid of the belief that allows it'.
The problem is that you assumed I was talking about punishing thought-crime, when I was actually suggesting we should criticize these beliefs in public discourse. The idea of tolerating all religions and keeping quiet about our criticisms gets in the way of that, which is why I posted a response to Ottoman saying that we 'shouldn't always tolerate people's religions'.
Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.
by Typhlochactas » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:45 am
Southern Patriots wrote:Typhlochactas wrote:
I believe my actual argument was something like, 'If somebody has a worldview that lets them kill other people, we should get rid of the belief that allows it'.
The problem is that you assumed I was talking about punishing thought-crime, when I was actually suggesting we should criticize these beliefs in public discourse. The idea of tolerating all religions and keeping quiet about our criticisms gets in the way of that, which is why I posted a response to Ottoman saying that we 'shouldn't always tolerate people's religions'.
Might best be done with tact.
Criticizing publicly a group you says is all about killing people will probably make them kill you.
by Southern Patriots » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:46 am
Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.
by Great Nepal » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:46 am
by SD_Film Artists » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:47 am
by Typhlochactas » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:47 am
Maltropia wrote:Oh great, yet another one of my firmly-rooted perceptions of the world has just been wrenched out of the earth. Excuse me while I go reconsider my philosophy.
by Maltropia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:47 am
Typhlochactas wrote:Ovisterra wrote:
Tip: Osama bin Laden isn't a religion.
My post stated this:Typhlochactas wrote:
If somebody has a worldview that lets them kill other people, then the best way to stop those actions is to get rid of the belief that allows it. If you just stop the action and not the thought behind it, then you're never going to win.
I was talking about worldviews that let people kill other people. I didn't notice that the poster had made the switch to 'religion', which is not what I was talking about.
Though, Bin Laden's worldview is deeply rooted in religion.
by Southern Patriots » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:47 am
Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.
by Palace of the Rising Sun » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:47 am
by Northwest Slobovia » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:48 am
Divair wrote:The Armed Republic of Carcenia wrote:I dont understand whats so wrong with religion. Even if it isnt true it gives people a moral compass and makes them want to do the right thing. True some people have misused it over time,but still whats so wrong with it?
You don't need religion to have a moral compass.
by Vortropolis » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:48 am
by Typhlochactas » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:49 am
Maltropia wrote:Typhlochactas wrote:
My post stated this:
I was talking about worldviews that let people kill other people. I didn't notice that the poster had made the switch to 'religion', which is not what I was talking about.
Though, Bin Laden's worldview is deeply rooted in religion.
Was*. And in a poor comprehension of his religion. The majority of Muslims don't mindlessly slaughter other peoples, or consider it right to do so. It's the same in most groups; you get a few extremists who give the whole lot a bad name.
by EnragedMaldivians » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:49 am
Catan wrote:Typhlochactas wrote:
If somebody has a worldview that lets them kill other people, then the best way to stop those actions is to get rid of the belief that allows it. If you just stop the action and not the thought behind it, then you're never going to win.
Could you give me an example of a religion like that, where all adherents want to kill someone?
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