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by Enn » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:59 pm
by The Rich Port » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:05 pm
by Leach Islands » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:13 pm
Shebu wrote:
History is written by winners. French History books are blank from cover to cover.
by The Rich Port » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:19 pm
by Manfigurut » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:20 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Then it is an abuse of the rules, an abuse of a LOOPHOLE. You know THAT word, too, huh? And, sure, it wouldn't be half as fun. Why do you think I'm so virulently for this measure? It wouldn't be any fun if the bad guys won all the time, now, would it?
NS FAQ wrote:>My region's WA Delegate is an evil dictator who ejects nations for no reason! Make him stop!
Delegates are elected: if you don't like yours, it's up to you to get him/her unelected. While in power, Delegates can use or abuse their powers as they see fit.
The Rich Port wrote:And why exactly do you oppose such a measure? You are giving the WA police powers it very desperately needs to avoid abuses around The World if one votes for it. And yet you claim to stand for the WA. Answer Messer Kalibarr's question, please.
by EVIL BEYOND COMPARE » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:25 pm
by The Nuclear Robatics » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:34 pm
by Talibistan (Ancient) » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:41 pm
by EVIL BEYOND COMPARE » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:43 pm
by The Rich Port » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:44 pm
Manfigurut wrote:Yes, I actually even know THAT word. I am sure you are quite impressed by my vocabulary...
Manfigurut wrote:NS FAQ wrote:>My region's WA Delegate is an evil dictator who ejects nations for no reason! Make him stop!
Delegates are elected: if you don't like yours, it's up to you to get him/her unelected. While in power, Delegates can use or abuse their powers as they see fit.
No sign of a loophole there, it even explicitly allows the delegate to do as he pleases. Besides, in other words, you are saying that abusing a rule loophole makes the game more fun. Do you play all games this way?
Manfigurut wrote:As the delegate of a founderless region, he does not want other nations overriding his decision to implement a password if necessary. I'm sure you'd feel the same way if you were in his situation.
Jedi-Gangsters, you claim that the natives of Democratia oppose the delegate. Yet 5 out of 6 nations support him, regardless from which region they moved there. Earlier on you stated that the fact that the delegate has not been endorsed by the only "native" nation proves that his rule is unjust. I don't think you would apply the same principle in your own region. Has this native actually complained? Do you have any proof that the current delegate has maliciously destroyed the region? I wonder with what authority you proclaim yourself as the rightful spokesman of Democratia.
I oppose this resolution not because I like raider regions or the Axis of Evil (they aren't the kind of people I'd want to have in my region), but because I oppose the idea of "liberating" a region not by using cunning or tactics as used by all sporting invaders and defenders, but by running to the WA and having other people solve your problem. I also don't want other regions interfering in regional affairs that don't concern them.
Article 11 § Every WA Member State has the duty to conduct its relations with other NationStates in accordance with international law and with the principle that the sovereignty of each WA Member State is subject to the supremacy of international law
by Elktown » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:47 pm
by The Rich Port » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:56 pm
Elktown wrote:Evil Beyond Control is correct. Most of the nation has been eject anyway. It is likely that most won't come back. This is a waste of a debate.
by Goobergunchia » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:46 pm
Democratia Regional Happenings wrote: * 1 day, 5 hours ago: Democratia was targeted for Liberation in a World Assembly proposal by The Crazed Bananas of Jedi-Gangsters.
* 10 days ago: The Dictatorship of The Land of Alara arrived from The Axis of Evil.
* 10 days ago: The Confederacy of Palinsylvania arrived from The Axis of Evil.
* 10 days ago: The Republic of EVIL BEYOND COMPARE arrived from The Axis of Evil.
* 10 days ago: The Southwest Diner of Noringrad arrived from The Axis of Evil.
* 10 days ago: The Republic of Smetistan changed the regional password.
* 78 days ago: The Republic of Smetistan established the region's flag.
* 86 days ago: The Republic of Smetistan replaced The Ridiculously Free Land of Lucky Number as WA Delegate.
* 87 days ago: The Ridiculously Free Land of Lucky Number updated the World Factbook entry.
* 87 days ago: The Ridiculously Free Land of Lucky Number updated the World Factbook entry.
This region is now under the control of The Axis of Evil.
All that remains of this once thriving region is a barren landscape blackened and scarred by the terrible destructive force of Axis nukes.
Long live The Axis of Evil Army!
Regional XML Feed wrote:exilia_and_colonies:lucky_number:smetistan:noringrad:evil_beyond_compare:palinsylvania:the_land_of_alara
Cinistra wrote:"Vibrant community", Jedi-Gangers . At the time of the raid, Democratia consisted of only a few members, and it never grew, never tried to recruit, and was frankly speaking dying. I know, 'cause I had a puppet who resided there for a long time. Once again we see the defenders trying to resurrect a dead horse, long after the carcass has been flogged. Withdraw this stupid resolution of yours, and let's be freed for this time-wasting of yours.
by Mafia Paese » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:03 pm
by Kalibarr » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:26 pm
EVIL BEYOND COMPARE wrote:It doesn'y matter if you liberate it, most of the old nation have been ban/jected so they can not come back. and the Axis has been there a while so they have alot of influence
by Mad Sheep Railgun » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:34 pm
Philimbesi wrote:Nigel looked over at the next proposal in the batch
Well that didn't last too long he said, back to the stupid they said they said soap opera...
Consulting the WeCouldReallyCareLessAboutCAndC'sTM Rubric, he said.
We were at first going to cast our vote for this proposition because of it's initial score of 25+25 Points for No Mention of Nazis
- 25 Points for No Mention of Nazi Zombies
+25 Points for No Mention of Salad Dressing
- 10 Points for No Mention of Penguins
+10 Points for No Mention of Colors
however once we read all the way down the rubric realized we must vote against it because of this-100 Points for copy and pasting and making no attempt to hide it.
by Goobergunchia » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:34 pm
Nations banned from Democratia: Al-Mujahid, An572, Blue Zebra, Muamar.
by Elktown » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:40 pm
by Kalibarr » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:47 pm
Goobergunchia wrote:
Observed:Nations banned from Democratia: Al-Mujahid, An572, Blue Zebra, Muamar.
Al-Mujahid and Muamar are both currently resident in The Axis of Evil, and Blue Zebra was banned from Democratia by a defender delegate. So at least 3/4 of the nations currently banned from Democratia appear to have invader affiliations.
Goobergunchia
Nasicournian Officer
ADN Deputy Secretary of State (Ret.)
by The Rich Port » Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:52 pm
by Minyos » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:28 pm
by EVIL BEYOND COMPARE » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:38 am
by The Rich Port » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:23 am
EVIL BEYOND COMPARE wrote:
yes but axis is already there and they will ban the defenders, or we might just leave because the natives are long gone by now
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