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Before I get this taken Down

Postby South-England » Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:11 pm

I never cared about Cotydon, this proposal was to protect fair trials, I don't care about regional affairs. Calm down, y'all. If he DID do something that deserved this, then I will accept the draft that is taking this. Since y'all hate Cotydon so much, I will take it down :)
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Postby Saint Halo » Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:16 pm

The GA does not deal with regional affairs
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Postby South-England » Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:19 pm

Saint Halo wrote:The GA does not deal with regional affairs

I am not condemning a specific region, for your information. Instead, I am stating a law which I believe shall take place, because of an injustice that has happened.

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Postby TheHouseOfSilly » Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:21 pm

I’m not exactly gonna comment on the proposal itself because I don’t know jack about the GA but I’m proud of you.

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Postby South-England » Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:29 pm

TheHouseOfSilly wrote:I’m not exactly gonna comment on the proposal itself because I don’t know jack about the GA but I’m proud of you.


Sorry for last time

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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:42 pm

  1. The GA does not govern regional matters. You can be ejected from a region for any reason (or no reason) by any regional officer with the appropriate Border Control authority.
  2. If this is instead regarding Cotydon's ejection from the World Assembly for rulebreaking (operating multiple WA nations), that is also not governed by the GA. Please review the Appeals process and WA multying in the site rules.
  3. If you would like to get into GA legislation, it is advised that you spend some time reviewing the Newcomer's Guide for additional information regarding proposal rules, as the draft you have posted would be marked illegal if submitted in its current state.
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Postby South-England » Fri Aug 21, 2026 4:42 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
  1. The GA does not govern regional matters. You can be ejected from a region for any reason (or no reason) by any regional officer with the appropriate Border Control authority.
  2. If this is instead regarding Cotydon's ejection from the World Assembly for rulebreaking (operating multiple WA nations), that is also not governed by the GA. Please review the Appeals process and WA multying in the site rules.
  3. If you would like to get into GA legislation, it is advised that you spend some time reviewing the Newcomer's Guide for additional information regarding proposal rules, as the draft you have posted would be marked illegal if submitted in its current state.

This is not about Cotydon's ejection in the WA, I didn't even know that happened. Who said I cared about the region? I said I cared about having a right and fair trial, have you not read, my friend? The region bs is one thing, the right to a fair trial is another. I care about the trial thing!

Are YOU from the region that accused him and assumed him guilty? Then why are you sweating so much, regional affairs isn't even on a thing I want to adress! Cotydon was banjected from the UCA for no reason, why am I adressing this, because regional affairs don't comply with GA stuff! I'm new but I studied the game!

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Postby Kshemarashtram » Fri Aug 21, 2026 6:08 pm

Hello.

So are you intending this as a mandate upon only national law in an IC context and simply calling it "law of Cotydon" as Cotydon was apparently ejected unjustly from his region? Or do you intend it as a mandate upon regions as well, that they shouldn't eject or ban anyone without a fair trial?

If it's the former, I think the last paragraph on Cotydon is unnecessary and irrelevant. If it's supposed to be about national law, why not just keep it at that? It adds unnecessary confusion as if you're trying to deal with regional affairs. You could rename the bill to "Right to a Fair Trial". Besides, I'm afraid a bill on fair trial is already being drafted :(

If it's the latter, I'd say the GA shouldn't be interfering in regional affairs. People should be free to curate their region as they wish. Besides, I think this would also hinder R/D gameplay, because, while I've never done such gameplay, my understanding is that raiders and defenders try to get maximum endorsements to become delegate, and then eject and/or ban potential threats to them. For regions, there is also no way to ensure that a law is being effectively enforced.

But I'd like you to clarify if this is supposed to be only about national law or about regions as well.
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Aug 22, 2026 4:22 am

South-England wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:
  1. The GA does not govern regional matters. You can be ejected from a region for any reason (or no reason) by any regional officer with the appropriate Border Control authority.
  2. If this is instead regarding Cotydon's ejection from the World Assembly for rulebreaking (operating multiple WA nations), that is also not governed by the GA. Please review the Appeals process and WA multying in the site rules.
  3. If you would like to get into GA legislation, it is advised that you spend some time reviewing the Newcomer's Guide for additional information regarding proposal rules, as the draft you have posted would be marked illegal if submitted in its current state.

This is not about Cotydon's ejection in the WA, I didn't even know that happened. Who said I cared about the region? I said I cared about having a right and fair trial, have you not read, my friend? The region bs is one thing, the right to a fair trial is another. I care about the trial thing!

Are YOU from the region that accused him and assumed him guilty? Then why are you sweating so much, regional affairs isn't even on a thing I want to adress! Cotydon was banjected from the UCA for no reason, why am I adressing this, because regional affairs don't comply with GA stuff! I'm new but I studied the game!

Not studied it well enough if you are going against the advice of the Director Of Moderation.

Whichever way you look at it this draft is completely ILLEGAL, you know, against the rules. Nations are not people yet you personalise the WA cheat throughout the last part of your draft which I think is against R2(a).

For your info I’m quite handy at ejecting nations from my region without any sort of trial and that will continue. I particularly like getting shot of WA cheats.
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Postby Lipizia » Sat Aug 22, 2026 5:52 am

Against. If for every single nation ejected-banned from a region ther will be a process, NS will be a total anarchy and a warzone. Imagine there are 150 WA invaders that go in a frontier and fastly approve one of them: the delegate must eject and ban them just as so fastly. If for every single invaders there must be a process, bye bye region!

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Postby Lipizia » Sat Aug 22, 2026 6:00 am

Kshemarashtram wrote:Hello.

So are you intending this as a mandate upon only national law in an IC context and simply calling it "law of Cotydon" as Cotydon was apparently ejected unjustly from his region? Or do you intend it as a mandate upon regions as well, that they shouldn't eject or ban anyone without a fair trial?

If it's the former, I think the last paragraph on Cotydon is unnecessary and irrelevant. If it's supposed to be about national law, why not just keep it at that? It adds unnecessary confusion as if you're trying to deal with regional affairs. You could rename the bill to "Right to a Fair Trial". Besides, I'm afraid a bill on fair trial is already being drafted :(

If it's the latter, I'd say the GA shouldn't be interfering in regional affairs. People should be free to curate their region as they wish. Besides, I think this would also hinder R/D gameplay, because, while I've never done such gameplay, my understanding is that raiders and defenders try to get maximum endorsements to become delegate, and then eject and/or ban potential threats to them. For regions, there is also no way to ensure that a law is being effectively enforced.

But I'd like you to clarify if this is supposed to be only about national law or about regions as well.


Only regional laws, I think. The one for national laws has another name and is here

Also because if it was also for national laws it will be plagiar.

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Aug 22, 2026 6:06 am

Lipizia wrote:Against. If for every single nation ejected-banned from a region ther will be a process, NS will be a total anarchy and a warzone. Imagine there are 150 WA invaders that go in a frontier and fastly approve one of them: the delegate must eject and ban them just as so fastly. If for every single invaders there must be a process, bye bye region!

Ejection/banjection is a game mechanic. A GA law cannot affect that, cannot tell regional officers or Delegates that a process has to exist before a nation can be kicked from a region.

This attempt is a waste of time.
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Postby Lipizia » Sat Aug 22, 2026 6:13 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Lipizia wrote:Against. If for every single nation ejected-banned from a region ther will be a process, NS will be a total anarchy and a warzone. Imagine there are 150 WA invaders that go in a frontier and fastly approve one of them: the delegate must eject and ban them just as so fastly. If for every single invaders there must be a process, bye bye region!

Ejection/banjection is a game mechanic. A GA law cannot affect that, cannot tell regional officers or Delegates that a process has to exist before a nation can be kicked from a region.

This attempt is a waste of time.

Against even more so. To the author: this proposal is illegal. Forget it, you're ruining your reputation. BBD: thank you for clarifying, again.

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Postby Unified Roman Nations » Sat Aug 22, 2026 6:25 am

Aside from the fact that this should not be here and is as illegal as it gets, Cotydon was shown extreme leniency which he only abused.
Protesting and spamming the rmb with the same unfunny joke 20 times pinging the governor are not the same thing. The latter would be considered ejection-worthy in almost any region.
As for the rest, Cotydon was given the ability to come clean multiple times, and there was a lot of evidence for what he was accused for.
Please do not take this further for no reason.

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Postby South-England » Sat Aug 22, 2026 6:38 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
South-England wrote:This is not about Cotydon's ejection in the WA, I didn't even know that happened. Who said I cared about the region? I said I cared about having a right and fair trial, have you not read, my friend? The region bs is one thing, the right to a fair trial is another. I care about the trial thing!

Are YOU from the region that accused him and assumed him guilty? Then why are you sweating so much, regional affairs isn't even on a thing I want to adress! Cotydon was banjected from the UCA for no reason, why am I adressing this, because regional affairs don't comply with GA stuff! I'm new but I studied the game!

Not studied it well enough if you are going against the advice of the Director Of Moderation.

Whichever way you look at it this draft is completely ILLEGAL, you know, against the rules. Nations are not people yet you personalise the WA cheat throughout the last part of your draft which I think is against R2(a).

For your info I’m quite handy at ejecting nations from my region without any sort of trial and that will continue. I particularly like getting shot of WA cheats.

This isn't about the WA Ejection, which was probably deserved, but he faced an unjust experience. I'm not talking about the regional affairs, I don't care about that, but this isn't about Cotydon. This is about the right to a fair trial. I called it " The Law of Cotydon" because he is one of the people who never got a fair trial. Cotydon, I don't even know him, but I heard about his story and the other stories of people without a fair trial, I decided to name this draft is his honor.

Some people can't read for their lives. If I put another nation's name, y'all would be fine! Why do you hate him so much?

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Postby South-England » Sat Aug 22, 2026 6:38 am

Unified Roman Nations wrote:Aside from the fact that this should not be here and is as illegal as it gets, Cotydon was shown extreme leniency which he only abused.
Protesting and spamming the rmb with the same unfunny joke 20 times pinging the governor are not the same thing. The latter would be considered ejection-worthy in almost any region.
As for the rest, Cotydon was given the ability to come clean multiple times, and there was a lot of evidence for what he was accused for.
Please do not take this further for no reason.

I DONT CARE ABOUT COTYDON! This is for a fair trial! Why can't people understand?

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Postby South-England » Sat Aug 22, 2026 6:40 am

Lipizia wrote:Against. If for every single nation ejected-banned from a region ther will be a process, NS will be a total anarchy and a warzone. Imagine there are 150 WA invaders that go in a frontier and fastly approve one of them: the delegate must eject and ban them just as so fastly. If for every single invaders there must be a process, bye bye region!

I agree, but this isn't about what Cotydon did. This is for Fair Trials! Not about the WA, I don't even know much of this!

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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sat Aug 22, 2026 6:47 am

South-England wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Not studied it well enough if you are going against the advice of the Director Of Moderation.

Whichever way you look at it this draft is completely ILLEGAL, you know, against the rules. Nations are not people yet you personalise the WA cheat throughout the last part of your draft which I think is against R2(a).

For your info I’m quite handy at ejecting nations from my region without any sort of trial and that will continue. I particularly like getting shot of WA cheats.

This isn't about the WA Ejection, which was probably deserved, but he faced an unjust experience. I'm not talking about the regional affairs, I don't care about that, but this isn't about Cotydon. This is about the right to a fair trial. I called it " The Law of Cotydon" because he is one of the people who never got a fair trial. Cotydon, I don't even know him, but I heard about his story and the other stories of people without a fair trial, I decided to name this draft is his honor.

Some people can't read for their lives. If I put another nation's name, y'all would be fine! Why do you hate him so much?

Because they’re a fucking WA cheat! Hated on principle. Nobody is going to honour anything either in the GA or the SC for a cheat.

You’re the one who made this about Cotydon by having a whole clause about them. At least you’ve shown some sense by abandoning this effort.
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Postby The Crusader Kings » Sat Aug 22, 2026 8:18 am

South-England wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Not studied it well enough if you are going against the advice of the Director Of Moderation.

Whichever way you look at it this draft is completely ILLEGAL, you know, against the rules. Nations are not people yet you personalise the WA cheat throughout the last part of your draft which I think is against R2(a).

For your info I’m quite handy at ejecting nations from my region without any sort of trial and that will continue. I particularly like getting shot of WA cheats.

This isn't about the WA Ejection, which was probably deserved, but he faced an unjust experience. I'm not talking about the regional affairs, I don't care about that, but this isn't about Cotydon. This is about the right to a fair trial. I called it " The Law of Cotydon" because he is one of the people who never got a fair trial. Cotydon, I don't even know him, but I heard about his story and the other stories of people without a fair trial, I decided to name this draft is his honor.

Some people can't read for their lives. If I put another nation's name, y'all would be fine! Why do you hate him so much?

If the proposal you put up is because of a regional matter, I can't be bothered to support it.

"If I put another nation's name, y'all would be fine" No we wouldn't. It's a crappy proposal, I'll be frank. But there's a few other reasons, at least for me:

You made a whole new thread just to make a statement. Just put it in the original thread(Oh wait, you can't, it got locked, oops)

Why do we "hate" him so much? Because he's a bloody-damn cheat, that's why.

Thank you all for trying to help South-England, but I think he/she/*insert pronoun* is a lost cause.

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I am not condemning a specific region, for your information. Instead, I am stating a law which I believe shall take place, because of an injustice that has happened.

You made a slop proposal inspired by a subject the GA has no business touching(Regional affairs), and now you try and defend it?

TheHouseOfSilly wrote:I’m not exactly gonna comment on the proposal itself because I don’t know jack about the GA but I’m proud of you.


... You sure you put the correct proposal into those checkers?

South-England wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:
  1. The GA does not govern regional matters. You can be ejected from a region for any reason (or no reason) by any regional officer with the appropriate Border Control authority.
  2. If this is instead regarding Cotydon's ejection from the World Assembly for rulebreaking (operating multiple WA nations), that is also not governed by the GA. Please review the Appeals process and WA multying in the site rules.
  3. If you would like to get into GA legislation, it is advised that you spend some time reviewing the Newcomer's Guide for additional information regarding proposal rules, as the draft you have posted would be marked illegal if submitted in its current state.

This is not about Cotydon's ejection in the WA, I didn't even know that happened. Who said I cared about the region? I said I cared about having a right and fair trial, have you not read, my friend? The region bs is one thing, the right to a fair trial is another. I care about the trial thing!

Are YOU from the region that accused him and assumed him guilty? Then why are you sweating so much, regional affairs isn't even on a thing I want to adress! Cotydon was banjected from the UCA for no reason, why am I adressing this, because regional affairs don't comply with GA stuff! I'm new but I studied the game!

"This is not about Cotydon's ejection in the WA, I didn't even know that happened. Who said I cared about the region?" Then why name your proposal after it, if you don't even know what happened, or didn't care?

"Are YOU from the region that accused him and assumed him guilty?" No, Reploid isn't, you could have looked yourself.

"Then why are you sweating so much" I'm not sure where you got that impression honestly.

"regional affairs isn't even on a thing I want to address" Get the spelling correct. Then why make a law about it?

"Cotydon was banjected from the UCA for no reason" So you DO know what happened!

"why am I addressing this, because regional affairs don't comply with GA stuff!" AGAIN, get the spelling correct. Regional Affairs don't have anything to DO with the GA, not sure why you put "comply" in there

"I'm new but I studied the game!" As BBD put it, not enough, it seems.

If you're going to write a fucking proposal, at least read the damn rules!
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Aug 22, 2026 3:06 pm

South-England wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:
  1. The GA does not govern regional matters. You can be ejected from a region for any reason (or no reason) by any regional officer with the appropriate Border Control authority.
  2. If this is instead regarding Cotydon's ejection from the World Assembly for rulebreaking (operating multiple WA nations), that is also not governed by the GA. Please review the Appeals process and WA multying in the site rules.
  3. If you would like to get into GA legislation, it is advised that you spend some time reviewing the Newcomer's Guide for additional information regarding proposal rules, as the draft you have posted would be marked illegal if submitted in its current state.

This is not about Cotydon's ejection in the WA, I didn't even know that happened. Who said I cared about the region? I said I cared about having a right and fair trial, have you not read, my friend? The region bs is one thing, the right to a fair trial is another. I care about the trial thing!

Are YOU from the region that accused him and assumed him guilty? Then why are you sweating so much, regional affairs isn't even on a thing I want to adress! Cotydon was banjected from the UCA for no reason, why am I adressing this, because regional affairs don't comply with GA stuff! I'm new but I studied the game!

Then you misunderstand. Trials are RP, and not the business of game moderators.
Regional Officers can eject anyone for any or no reason whatsoever. Still has nothing to do with game moderators.
Speak to the players who have been here longer than you. They will explain that regional affairs and GA 'stuff' are not related.

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Postby South-England » Sun Aug 23, 2026 1:47 pm

Unified Roman Nations wrote:Aside from the fact that this should not be here and is as illegal as it gets, Cotydon was shown extreme leniency which he only abused.
Protesting and spamming the rmb with the same unfunny joke 20 times pinging the governor are not the same thing. The latter would be considered ejection-worthy in almost any region.
As for the rest, Cotydon was given the ability to come clean multiple times, and there was a lot of evidence for what he was accused for.
Please do not take this further for no reason.

If he did do that wrong, I apologize

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Postby South-England » Sun Aug 23, 2026 1:48 pm

Katganistan wrote:
South-England wrote:This is not about Cotydon's ejection in the WA, I didn't even know that happened. Who said I cared about the region? I said I cared about having a right and fair trial, have you not read, my friend? The region bs is one thing, the right to a fair trial is another. I care about the trial thing!

Are YOU from the region that accused him and assumed him guilty? Then why are you sweating so much, regional affairs isn't even on a thing I want to adress! Cotydon was banjected from the UCA for no reason, why am I adressing this, because regional affairs don't comply with GA stuff! I'm new but I studied the game!

Then you misunderstand. Trials are RP, and not the business of game moderators.
Regional Officers can eject anyone for any or no reason whatsoever. Still has nothing to do with game moderators.
Speak to the players who have been here longer than you. They will explain that regional affairs and GA 'stuff' are not related.

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