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Morover
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Postby Morover » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:39 pm

Bosnie wrote:Question:

What topics can not be turned into resolutions?
More specifically, what are the general rules on resolutions, and how can I ensure I am not creating a resolution that has been already passed?

Most things are allowed, so long as it's not metagaming, doesn't change game mechanics, and hasn't already been legislated on.

Find previously passed resolutions here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30
Find GA rules here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348

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Postby Dirty Americans » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:27 pm

And it has to fit into an existing category; doing things based on that particular category that impact all the nations within the GA.
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Postby Araraukar » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:41 am

Dirty Americans wrote:And it has to fit into an existing category; doing things based on that particular category that impact all the nations within the GA.

Or almost all. Obviously something about elections won't apply in nations that don't hold elections, but the point is that if they at any point start holding elections, then it applies. What you can't put in a proposal is "nations can ignore this if they want", basically.
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Postby Fismsosia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:31 am

Is using real world statistics banned?
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Morover
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Postby Morover » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:46 am

Fismsosia wrote:Is using real world statistics banned?

I’d say so, since it’s be a real life reference, which is against the rules.

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Postby United Massachusetts » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:49 am

Morover wrote:
Fismsosia wrote:Is using real world statistics banned?

I’d say so, since it’s be a real life reference, which is against the rules.

This is correct. You also can't really use NationStates statistics, either -- the General Assembly is a roleplay institution, first and foremost.

(Now, of course, there are exceptions -- the chief example is the whole "six-to-one ratio" brought up by NAPA and, more recently, Morover.)

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Postby Araraukar » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:59 am

United Massachusetts wrote:(Now, of course, there are exceptions -- the chief example is the whole "six-to-one ratio" brought up by NAPA and, more recently, Morover.)

Though if using that, expect it to be challenged as faulty reasoning. :P (Not the least because it's an unreal statistic and more nations would be in the WA if not for the one per player restriction.)
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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:20 am

Araraukar wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:(Now, of course, there are exceptions -- the chief example is the whole "six-to-one ratio" brought up by NAPA and, more recently, Morover.)

Though if using that, expect it to be challenged as faulty reasoning. :P (Not the least because it's an unreal statistic and more nations would be in the WA if not for the one per player restriction.)

Then again, some of the nations that currently are in the WA wouldn't be if it membership wasn't required for holding authority as a Delegate, for raiding/defending, or for some other activities under certain regions' own rules...
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Postby Araraukar » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:52 am

Bears Armed Mission wrote:Then again, some of the nations that currently are in the WA wouldn't be if it membership wasn't required for holding authority as a Delegate, for raiding/defending, or for some other activities under certain regions' own rules...

Yeah, so it's a completely artificial number, as the real number would likely be something completely different.
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:30 am

How do approvals work? Do delegates approve WA resolutions or does the GenSec decide who can approve and who can't?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:31 am

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:How do approvals work? Do delegates approve WA resolutions or does the GenSec decide who can approve and who can't?

Delegates get approval power.

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Postby Morover » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:32 am

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:How do approvals work? Do delegates approve WA resolutions or does the GenSec decide who can approve and who can't?

(This goes for SC and GA, if you're wondering.)

WA Delegates have access to approve any proposal that is submitted, provided that it is legal. The following is a quote from the Proposals page:

The following are proposals for WA resolutions. Any WA member nation with at least two endorsements can make a proposal, but it will only become a resolution (to be voted on by the entire WA) if it is approved by at least 6% of WA Regional Delegates.

As the WA currently has 1,155 Regional Delegates, a proposal needs 70 approvals to achieve quorum.

GenSec merely decides whether or not a proposal is legal or not, as according to these parameters.

EDIT: Sep ninja'd me, rip
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:32 am

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:How do approvals work? Do delegates approve WA resolutions or does the GenSec decide who can approve and who can't?

Delegates get approval power.

Thank you.
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Postby Saint Arsenio » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:21 pm

Is there already a Proposal that touches on the subject of Healthcare? More specifically, Affordable Healthcare? I wanted to do one specifically about Affordable Healthcare. I looked, and I saw a Proposal that talked about Healthcare, and that was it. I just wanted to clarify before I actually began to draft and put it out there.
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Postby Kenmoria » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:35 pm

Saint Arsenio wrote:Is there already a Proposal that touches on the subject of Healthcare? More specifically, Affordable Healthcare? I wanted to do one specifically about Affordable Healthcare. I looked, and I saw a Proposal that talked about Healthcare, and that was it. I just wanted to clarify before I actually began to draft and put it out there.

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:23 pm

Saint Arsenio wrote:Is there already a Proposal that touches on the subject of Healthcare? More specifically, Affordable Healthcare? I wanted to do one specifically about Affordable Healthcare. I looked, and I saw a Proposal that talked about Healthcare, and that was it. I just wanted to clarify before I actually began to draft and put it out there.


There are a number of them, actually.
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Postby Saint Arsenio » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:
Saint Arsenio wrote:Is there already a Proposal that touches on the subject of Healthcare? More specifically, Affordable Healthcare? I wanted to do one specifically about Affordable Healthcare. I looked, and I saw a Proposal that talked about Healthcare, and that was it. I just wanted to clarify before I actually began to draft and put it out there.


There are a number of them, actually.

Okay, but I meant are there any that talk about requiring Nations to provide their citizens with Affordable Healthcare? That's what I was going to write a proposal on, if it's legal to do that.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:00 pm

Saint Arsenio wrote:Okay, but I meant are there any that talk about requiring Nations to provide their citizens with Affordable Healthcare?

Yes, and you were linked to them already.
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Postby Saint Arsenio » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:01 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Saint Arsenio wrote:Okay, but I meant are there any that talk about requiring Nations to provide their citizens with Affordable Healthcare?

Yes, and you were linked to them already.

Uh... I may be missing something, but could you point them out? I looked at them, but nothing that targeted Affordable Healthcare specifically.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:27 pm

Saint Arsenio wrote:I looked at them, but nothing that targeted Affordable Healthcare specifically.

Then write your proposal and post a draft in this forum. People will weigh in if it's got problems. It's pointless trying to get a ruling on an unwritten proposal.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:56 pm

Ara's SL's link is unhelpful. To the question-asker, Quality in Health Services requires that member nations provide everyone healthcare.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:43 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Ara's link is unhelpful.

...I posted no links. SL did, and while I didn't look at all of them, I'm fairly certain QiHS was among the search results.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:43 am

I misidentified the poster.

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Postby Araraukar » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:14 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:I misidentified the poster.

You're forgiven for being human. :P
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:15 pm

Araraukar wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:I misidentified the poster.

You're forgiven for being human. :P

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