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[Draft] A Simple Resolution Against Animal Cruelty

Postby Rex the Very Good Boy » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:01 am

A Simple Resolution Against Animal Cruelty
Moral Decency * Mild


The Nations of the World Assembly:

Recognizing that woof woof woof, "Who's a good boy?!"

Angered that grrrrrrrr, grrrrrrrrrrrrr, bark bark!

Convinced that bark whine bark, pant pant pant pant pant...

Defining an "animal" for the purposes of this resolution to be any non-sapient mammal, reptile, fish, amphibian, or bird;

Limited only by the terms of any previously-enacted active resolutions, the World Assembly enacts the following provision:

In all World Assembly nations it is unlawful to inflict pain on any animal in a manner that is cruel, malicious, or shows callous indifference to suffering.

A Simple Resolution Against Animal Cruelty
Moral Decency * Mild


The Nations of the World Assembly:

Recognizing that woof woof woof, "Whose a good boy?!"

Angered that grrrrrrrr, grrrrrrrrrrrrr, bark bark!

Convinced that bark whine bark, pant pant pant pant pant...

Therefore, limited only by the terms of any previously-enacted active resolutions, the World Assembly enacts the following provision:

In all World Assembly nations it is unlawful to inflict pain on any animal in a manner that is cruel, malicious, or shows callous indifference to suffering.

A Simple Resolution Against Animal Cruelty
Moral Decency * Mild


The Nations of the World Assembly:

Recognizing that woof woof woof, "Whose a good boy?!"

Angered that grrrrrrrr, grrrrrrrrrrrrr, bark bark!

Convinced that bark whine bark, pant pant pant pant pant...

Also convinced that meeeeow, hiss, fit fit fit fit fit! ... Purr...

Therefore, the World Assembly enacts the following provision:

In all World Assembly nations it is unlawful to inflict pain on any animal in a manner that is cruel, malicious, or shows callous indifference to suffering.

Cat contributions courtesy of Max the Cat


Don't kick the dog
[i]Moral Decency * Mild


The Nations of the World Assembly:

Recognizing that woof woof woof, "Whose a good boy?!"

Angered that grrrrrrrr, grrrrrrrrrrrrr, bark bark!;

Convinced that bark whine bark, pant pant pant pant pant...

Therefore, the World Assembly enacts the following provision:

In all World Assembly nations it is unlawful to inflict pain on any animal in a manner that is cruel, malicious, or shows callous indifference to suffering.
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:04 am

Unequivocal support. Ruff ruff!

EDIT: OPPOSED, in light of this draft's recent felinification. <<< ignore this lol
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:05 am

No support. Cats are better than dogs.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:14 am

Joke proposals belong in the joke proposal thread.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:41 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:No support. Cats are better than dogs.


If by that, you mean military-grade weapons are better than dogs, I suppose I must agree.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:50 am

To quote Sep: you won't take my boomsticks.

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Postby Rex the Very Good Boy » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:14 pm

Woof!

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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:52 am

OOC
Contradicts existing legislation: As currently written it would extend to covering sapient animals, such as humans, and would therefore contradict various clauses explicitly allowing [albeit with restrictions] member nations to use violent methods -- including lethal force -- in wartime.
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Postby Rex the Very Good Boy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:34 am

Bears Armed wrote:OOC
Contradicts existing legislation: As currently written it would extend to covering sapient animals, such as humans, and would therefore contradict various clauses explicitly allowing [albeit with restrictions] member nations to use violent methods -- including lethal force -- in wartime.

Bark bark!

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Postby Araraukar » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:41 am

Rex the Very Good Boy wrote:shows callous indifference to suffering.

"In whose opinion? I'd happily watch a bunch of yapping dogs being dipped alive in boiling oil, but that's because I hate yapping dogs, not because I was callously indifferent to animal suffering in general. Also as written, the proposal also would ban all forms of pest control and even swatting a mosquito. No support."
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Postby Rex the Very Good Boy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:53 am

Araraukar wrote:
Rex the Very Good Boy wrote:shows callous indifference to suffering.

"In whose opinion? I'd happily watch a bunch of yapping dogs being dipped alive in boiling oil, but that's because I hate yapping dogs, not because I was callously indifferent to animal suffering in general. Also as written, the proposal also would ban all forms of pest control and even swatting a mosquito. No support."

Woof!

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:56 pm

Araraukar wrote: "I'd happily watch a bunch of yapping dogs being dipped alive in boiling oil..."


"And she wonders if I'm the one who is alright..." Cornelia Schultz remarks. "Ambassador, I think boiling puppies in oil solely out of malice towards those puppies shows callous indifference to the suffering of the puppies in question."
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Postby Araraukar » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:48 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:"And she wonders if I'm the one who is alright..." Cornelia Schultz remarks. "Ambassador, I think boiling puppies in oil solely out of malice towards those puppies shows callous indifference to the suffering of the puppies in question."

"Yapping puppies," Lindasaid with emphasis, "and if it was a resolution against cruelty to dogs, then you would have a point. However, a farmer using chemical pesticides to protect their crops, is equally indifferent to the suffering of the pests they're dealing with. As is any normal person who swats a biting insect that is trying to have a drink of their blood. Or a person taking medications to rid themselves of parasites. The language simply is too general."

OOC: So are you the OP? Because the thing is and remains a joke proposal as long as it has "dog talk" in it.

...and now I can't stop thinking about hot dogs. Hungry.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:43 pm

Araraukar wrote:"Yapping puppies," Lindasaid with emphasis, "and if it was a resolution against cruelty to dogs, then you would have a point. However, a farmer using chemical pesticides to protect their crops, is equally indifferent to the suffering of the pests they're dealing with. As is any normal person who swats a biting insect that is trying to have a drink of their blood. Or a person taking medications to rid themselves of parasites. The language simply is too general."


"If you could reasonably prove that such parasites and pests were even capable of suffering, then I would accept that any attempt to exterminate them in a painful way showed callous indifference to their suffering."

"Look, Miss..." Cornelia pauses, "...I'm sorry, who are you again?"

OOC: So are you the OP? Because the thing is and remains a joke proposal as long as it has "dog talk" in it.

OOC:
I most certainly am not. Animal Cruelty is pretty far down on my WA legislation priority list and I wouldn't be wasting my time writing a joke resolution like this.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:11 am

Excidium Planetis wrote:"If you could reasonably prove that such parasites and pests were even capable of suffering, then I would accept that any attempt to exterminate them in a painful way showed callous indifference to their suffering."

OOC: You realize that mice and rats are considered pests, yes? And that insects can feel pain?

"Look, Miss..." Cornelia pauses, "...I'm sorry, who are you again?"

"Linda Äyrämäki, the acting ambassador while miss Leveret is busy elsewhere. She left me lots of notes, though some of them have been stained with cocoa. Are you really from a nomadic people who live in giant spaceships?"

OOC: So are you the OP?

OOC: I most certainly am not.

OOC: You know why you're a prime suspect, though. :P
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Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
Araraukar wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
United Massachusetts wrote:Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
Often sorely lacking
Hence us attacking
Silly GA spammers

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:44 am

Araraukar wrote:OOC: You realize that mice and rats are considered pests, yes? And that insects can feel pain?

OOC:
I'm not sure that Schultz would be aware of that fact, since there's not really a whole lot of pests in Excidium Planetis, at least not on the space side of things. The precursors to Excidian civilization took great pains to not take Earth's pests with them when they went out into the stars, and any escaped laboratory mice would likely not have survived in the mostly sterile and sealed off compartments of ships. It's probable that Schultz has never seen anything that could be considered a pest in her entire life.

As for pain, it's not exactly the same thing as suffering. If I stub my toe on something, it might be painful, but I wouldn't say that I was suffering.

Also I'm not sure why this conversation had to be OOC.

"Linda Äyrämäki, the acting ambassador while miss Leveret is busy elsewhere. She left me lots of notes, though some of them have been stained with cocoa. Are you really from a nomadic people who live in giant spaceships?"

"That would depend on your definition of giant. I would say we live in perfectly normal sized starships." Cornelia Schultz replies. "But wait, what happened to Miss Leveret? Not that I miss her or anything..."

OOC: You know why you're a prime suspect, though. :P

OOC:
I don't usually submit legislation through puppets, even if I have been known to make a few on this forum.

Although I suppose the current lack of WA status on my main is a bit suspicious, and I assure you entirely because I keep WA status on this nation the same OOC as IC.
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Postby Araraukar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:06 am

Excidium Planetis wrote:
Araraukar wrote:OOC: You realize that mice and rats are considered pests, yes? And that insects can feel pain?

OOC:
I'm not sure that Schultz would be aware of that fact, since there's not really a whole lot of pests in Excidium Planetis, at least not on the space side of things. The precursors to Excidian civilization took great pains to not take Earth's pests with them when they went out into the stars, and any escaped laboratory mice would likely not have survived in the mostly sterile and sealed off compartments of ships. It's probable that Schultz has never seen anything that could be considered a pest in her entire life.

As for pain, it's not exactly the same thing as suffering. If I stub my toe on something, it might be painful, but I wouldn't say that I was suffering.

Also I'm not sure why this conversation had to be OOC.

OOC: You answered yourself on why it had to be OOC. :P And if you don't include simple pain into suffering, why get upset about the yapping hot dogs? It's just pain. EDIT: Also, do they actually have dogs on spaceships?

Excidium Planetis wrote:"That would depend on your definition of giant. I would say we live in perfectly normal sized starships." Cornelia Schultz replies. "But wait, what happened to Miss Leveret? Not that I miss her or anything..."

"She is away, representing Araraukar on a long-term mission. I get occasional messages via the hivemind. I'm sure you can get in contact with her via the thing, if you want to, as well. And any kind of spaceship that's big enough for more than a handful of people to live in, in the long term, is likely to be giant, by our reckoning."
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Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
Araraukar wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
United Massachusetts wrote:Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
Often sorely lacking
Hence us attacking
Silly GA spammers

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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:10 am

Araraukar wrote:...and now I can't stop thinking about hot dogs. Hungry.

OOC: For the Bears, 'Hot Dog!' is the name of a popular fast-food chain specialising in spicy stews...
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:59 am

Araraukar wrote:OOC: So are you the OP? Because the thing is and remains a joke proposal as long as it has "dog talk" in it.


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Postby Araraukar » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:57 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:1/6 of GenSec

OOC: And the the other 5/6? :P

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Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
Araraukar wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:a cosmopolitan hammer
United Massachusetts wrote:Can we all call ourselves "cosmopolitan hammers"?
Us cosmopolitan hammers
Can teach some manners
Often sorely lacking
Hence us attacking
Silly GA spammers


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