[SUBMITTED] Humane Livestock Marking Act

[Philimbesi]

We fail to see how a nation chooses to brand their livestock is an international issue.

[Lemonacia]

I fully support this resolution. Thanks for writing something like this.

NOTING that the pain inflicted upon livestock in the process of branding is extreme and completely unnecassary with available marking procedures

The word 'unnecessary' has a spelling error.

DEFINING the process of branding as the marking of the hide of livestock using a heated or cooled (in the case of freeze branding) implement to burn an insignia or mark of ownership into the hide of the animal for any purpose

I noted you have since changed the proposal to include "all livestock", however, it seems that the definition is still largely meant for cattle. Perhaps change the word "hide" to something else? I rarely see the word apply to anything other than cattle.

Thank you for your help, corrections have been implemented.



Regarding the point raised by the representative of Philimbesi, we Lemonacians feel that if a topic is worth debating within a single nation, it worth debating internationally. Branding is a brutal, inhumane practice that we feel is a blemish on an already morally delicate industry; agriculture. Many nations have laws regarding the treatment of domesticated pet animals; why should this courtesy not extend to creatures that surely should command much higher respect than any pet? I refer of course to the livestock that put food on the table for many a nation.

[Lemonacia]

I have now officlally submitted this legislation in it's current form, taking it out of the draft stage. Thanks to everyone who provided support and suggestions.

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[Sanctaria]

Moral Decency? How?

[Lemonacia]

Moral Decency? How?

The Proposal restricts the right to brand livestock in a bid to improve the welfare of said livestock.
What would you have chosen?

[Sanctaria]

Moral Decency? How?

The Proposal restricts the right to brand livestock in a bid to improve the welfare of said livestock.
What would you have chosen?

Fair enough.

[Ossitania]

Moral Decency? How?

Animal Cruelty Prevention was in the same category, iirc. The essence of the category is banning a social or economic practice in the name of civil rights as far as I can tell, so this seems to fit.

[Sanctaria]

Moral Decency? How?

Animal Cruelty Prevention was in the same category, iirc. The essence of the category is banning a social or economic practice in the name of civil rights as far as I can tell, so this seems to fit.

I know what the category is and I never once said I disagreed with the placement of this resolution in said category. It's just sometimes necessary to double check with authors to see why they put X resolution in Y category, especially when earlier drafts of X resolution included categories which didn't even exist.

[Lemonacia]

I have recieved the required endorsements and I am now officially submitting this proposal.
Thanks to everyone for your help, guidance, criticism and support.

[Zemnaya Svoboda]

Proposing a link to the text isn't going to work. You'll need to actually put the text of the proposal into the proposal.

[Zaklen]

Against. You do realize that we kill livestock and eat them, right? I think branding is rather mild compared to that.

[Lemonacia]

Against. You do realize that we kill livestock and eat them, right? I think branding is rather mild compared to that.

Yes, but most nations attempt to at least do this humanely. In my opinion, branding is far more cruel.
Eating is part of the circle of life.
Branding is just not needed.

[Stalltopia]

While I agree that the humane branding of livestock is a noble goal, my issue with this involves the actual implementation of the policy. Is enforcing this issue really an appropriate use of government resources when there are so many other more important issues that need funding?

I argue that a there are nations in the World Assembly that cannot afford to enforce this policy, and therefore in fairness to these nations branding laws should be passed on a national level and not on the Assembly level.

[Cowardly Pacifists]

Mooey the Green Cow says, "If you really cared about me, you'd write a proposal about something more relevant than replacing branding with colorful dyes. Free-range or open-range grazing is much less common today than it was in the past, and the problem of cattle rustlers has gone by the wayside. So branding isn't really all that relevant. I kinda wish it were, since the temporary pain of a brand would be worth it if afterwords I got to graze in an open range, rather than being shoved into crowded, grassless pens while they fatten me up for slaughter. If you really cared about me and my kind, maybe you could do something about factory farming rather than waste your time dying a few cows pretty colors."

[Lemonacia]

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Mooey the Green Cow says, "If you really cared about me, you'd write a proposal about something more relevant than replacing branding with colorful dyes. Free-range or open-range grazing is much less common today than it was in the past, and the problem of cattle rustlers has gone by the wayside. So branding isn't really all that relevant. I kinda wish it were, since the temporary pain of a brand would be worth it if afterwords I got to graze in an open range, rather than being shoved into crowded, grassless pens while they fatten me up for slaughter. If you really cared about me and my kind, maybe you could do something about factory farming rather than waste your time dying a few cows pretty colors."

Responses to Delegate Mooey:

1. I intend to draft up several proposals regarding the welfare of livestock, so don't worry about free/open range grazing. It'll happen soon, this is just a starting step.

2. I don't intend for nations to dye the livestock completely (i.e. head to foot? hoof?). Just a dawb of colour or a logo. Although, it's completely down to the discretion of the owner.

[Philimbesi]

How a nation chooses to mark it's livestock is not an international issue. Opposed.

[Marcdonia Empire]

This is a domestic issue at most. You cannot force entire nations to do this. Against.

[Lemonacia]

This is a domestic issue at most. You cannot force entire nations to do this. Against.

His Most Citrusy feels that this is a matter of international importance, due to the sheer barbaric pointlessness of the practice.
Never the less, you are entitled to your opinion, and I am grateful for the feedback.

[Nova Mykenae]

"If we are going to kill it and eat it anyway, what does it matter how we brand our cattle" -- says Ambassador Ozzie as he stuffs his mouth full of grade A beef. "Now excuse me while I go out to brand my cattle with a rusty knife, as our people have done since the beginning of recorded history."

[Marcdonia Empire]

Furthermore, I'm not painting my cows.

[Flibbleites]

You know, there's a reason that branding is used to mark livestock, permanence. If an animal is only painted, some unscrupulous individual could come along and simply paint over the mark and claim that the animal is actually theirs. On the other hand, it's pretty hard to get rid of a mark from a branding iron.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

[Lemonacia]

I have read and understood many of the delegates complaints.
Taking the advice of some colleagues, if the current version of the proposal does not reach Quorum (which seems likely) I will amend the proposal to allow the use of RFID tagging, which is permanant, humane and difficult to tamper with.

[Stalltopia]

The Holy Empire of Stalltopia believes that the issue lies not with RFID tagging, but with the fact that this has always been and will continue to be a domestic issue and not an international one.

[Lemonacia]

I understand that many nations feel this to be a domestic issue, but this is not the feeling of the Lemonacian people, who will continue to rally to have this Act passed.

[Flibbleites]

I have read and understood many of the delegates complaints.
Taking the advice of some colleagues, if the current version of the proposal does not reach Quorum (which seems likely) I will amend the proposal to allow the use of RFID tagging, which is permanant, humane and difficult to tamper with.

Considering that the title of the submitted version is "The Humane Livestock Marking A" you might want to consider petitioning the Secretariat to have it removed.

I understand that many nations feel this to be a domestic issue, but this is not the feeling of the Lemonacian people, who will continue to rally to have this Act passed.

And how many failures to reach quorum will it take before you realize that you don't have enough support to pass this?

Bob Flibble
WA Representative