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by Jebslund » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:08 pm
by Saint Kanye » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:51 pm
by The Sherpa Empire » Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:16 am
Saint Kanye wrote:Question though: Are ranks on a per driver or per country basis?
by Strike » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:36 am
Jebslund wrote:I mean... She's not wrong. Rank coasting is pretty much impossible in NSSCRA. Miss even a couple cutoffs and your fall will be PDQ regardless of rank.
If you think the 2nd tier is still worth having, then that's your opinion. Just don't make up bullshit about the rank system
by The Sherpa Empire » Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:10 am
Strike wrote:Jebslund wrote:I mean... She's not wrong. Rank coasting is pretty much impossible in NSSCRA. Miss even a couple cutoffs and your fall will be PDQ regardless of rank.
Yes... I know thats what they are saying. They are saying that in order to consider being a new user in NSSCRA You have to RP daily or you won't ever be successful. That is the definition of a high barrier to entry.
Thats why Tier 2 offers the opportunity for less active users to participate in a meaningful way with more competitive results.If you think the 2nd tier is still worth having, then that's your opinion. Just don't make up bullshit about the rank system
I never once mentioned anything about a rank system, so I don't know what you are arguing about. I made a factual statement about a conversation with an established user who didn't feel they could be as active RP wise in NSSCRA as the core competitors in NSSCRA, and how they liked the fact that they could compete in Tier 2 where there would be fewer competitors from the core high-activity nations that are taking up most of the spots in NSSCRA Tier 1. I never mentioned anything about ranks. I said that Tier 2 offers a way for less active contributors to be more competitive and potentially enjoy themselves more which could in the future lead to them being more involved.
I don't mind having disagreements but at least don't argue at me about something I didn't even say.
by Strike » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:14 am
by The Sherpa Empire » Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:58 am
Strike wrote:Stop bringing your personal grievances into the discussion thread. What is the point of this argument? Someone asked a specific question about applying to tier 2 only and I replied with information that they were not the only nation considering doing just that. Literally someone else brought it up not me. How you managed to turn that into a personal, expletive laden tirade against me boggles my mind. If you don't have anything nice to say either don't say it at all, or at least keep it to the/dm where everyone else doesn't have to be bothered by it.
by Strike » Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:16 am
The Sherpa Empire wrote:Strike wrote:Stop bringing your personal grievances into the discussion thread. What is the point of this argument? Someone asked a specific question about applying to tier 2 only and I replied with information that they were not the only nation considering doing just that. Literally someone else brought it up not me. How you managed to turn that into a personal, expletive laden tirade against me boggles my mind. If you don't have anything nice to say either don't say it at all, or at least keep it to the/dm where everyone else doesn't have to be bothered by it.
You keep repeating the same lines about "starting on equal footing" or "bad results" as if ranks are an issue. Cass didn't ask about that.
by The Sherpa Empire » Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:20 am
Strike wrote:The Sherpa Empire wrote:
You keep repeating the same lines about "starting on equal footing" or "bad results" as if ranks are an issue. Cass didn't ask about that.
I don't know what you mean about "Keep repeating" - I made one small comment in one post and then didn't address the issue again.
by Newmanistan » Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:28 am
Saint Kanye wrote:Question though: Are ranks on a per driver or per country basis?
by The Sherpa Empire » Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:35 am
Newmanistan wrote:Saint Kanye wrote:Question though: Are ranks on a per driver or per country basis?
The answer is, to a point, both. There are two separate columns that get added together for the drivers individual score:
The primary portion of the drivers ranking (or skill level put in xkoranate) is the RP bonus in which the nation has scored. As this competition is largely about RP, this will always be the most important component. It is spread evenly among the nations primary (not open charter) drivers.
Open charter drivers receive 75% of the nations overall RP score.
There is a smaller, secondary variable within a nation's ranking that is capable of causing variance within a nation's driver lineup so that each driver does not have the same exact skill value entered in. If Driver A keeps having better results then Driver B and Driver C, then this variable will start to cause a little separation between A from B and C as the nation's top driver. Drivers A, B, and C each get the same national bonus, but the secondary, and again smaller variable, will make A a little better.
For Saint Kanye, you don't really have much difference, but the 18 is a bit ahead in this category of the 3 and 46, but not by much. So for you or Vilita you'll hardly notice this. Sherpa and Valentine Z are similar. (using end season NSSCRA 9 numbers)
Cassadaigua has the most separation with the driver variable of the top nations right now between the 27 and the 4 and 11. So this means that while the 27, 4, and 11 get the same RP bonus; the 27's better results has allowed Stacie Houston to emerge as being the better driver of her nation, and the best shot for Cassadaigua to win a race. Though the national RP bonus is good enough for the 4 and 11 to catch back up. Hapilopper's Taylor Henderson in the last season is an example of a driver who did catch up to the 8 and 81 of her nation.
The variable will be toned down to start the year.
by Valentine Z » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:41 pm
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by The Sherpa Empire » Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:01 pm
Valentine Z wrote:As a curious question, since Jolyn is signed up under my new puppet nation, will she lose all the skills that she has accumulated in NSSCRA 8? Not that I expect her to be a bona fide driver, considering that she was not around for a whole season, so I can always fit my writing that she was just rusty.
Will Holly and Jolyn inherit a small degree of bonus from Valentine Z's posts, or will they only get it if I RP as that nation?
by Valentine Z » Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:02 pm
The Sherpa Empire wrote:Valentine Z wrote:As a curious question, since Jolyn is signed up under my new puppet nation, will she lose all the skills that she has accumulated in NSSCRA 8? Not that I expect her to be a bona fide driver, considering that she was not around for a whole season, so I can always fit my writing that she was just rusty.
Will Holly and Jolyn inherit a small degree of bonus from Valentine Z's posts, or will they only get it if I RP as that nation?
I would expect puppets and main nations to be scored separately. Each nation should have its own IC identity even if they are OOCly owned by the same player.
If you want your puppet's drivers to do well, you need to RP with the puppet. I didn't RP my puppet very much in NSSCRA 9 and Hengxing Tian was really slow.
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by Filindostan » Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:23 pm
Valentine Z wrote:The Sherpa Empire wrote:
I would expect puppets and main nations to be scored separately. Each nation should have its own IC identity even if they are OOCly owned by the same player.
If you want your puppet's drivers to do well, you need to RP with the puppet. I didn't RP my puppet very much in NSSCRA 9 and Hengxing Tian was really slow.
That will still be fine, thanks! ^^ I just wanted the clarity, so I can distribute the RP across the two more.
by Valentine Z » Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:39 pm
Filindostan wrote:What will be the case then if the driver participated last season and will be moving to other nations's teams (i.e, Harrison, Tsuchie)? How will be their starting points be, as I recall there were some discussions from this post how to tackle this, but I think there was no conclusive answer to it.
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by Saint Kanye » Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:24 am
Newmanistan wrote:snip
by Jebslund » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:53 am
by Saint Kanye » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:09 am
by Jebslund » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:13 am
Saint Kanye wrote:Five Star Mobile 500, Tundra Falls 500, Pencurve Electronics 500, Vilaye 314 and the Tropicorp beach race.
Five Star is the main sponsor, shouldn't be changed.
TF500 is the season opener.
The Pencurve is the regular season finale, huge implications for that race.
Vilaye 314 is the oldest race in the schedule.
I think the last one should be changed though. The Super Skychief 500 would be a good replacement due to it being one of the most hyped races in the schedule, along with the Guilin 400 (the one with the Rumble). However, the latter won't be run this year due to the track being under repair. Plus ya know, that would make five races for five different users.
by Valentine Z » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:43 am
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by Newmanistan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:47 am
Valentine Z wrote:Ooh, signup is closing soon, I noticed. ^^
by Valentine Z » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:55 am
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♡ Issues Thread ♡ Photography Stuff ♡ Project: Save F7. ♡ Stats Analysis ♡
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by Appalachian Nation » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:56 am
by Saint Kanye » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:14 am
Appalachian Nation wrote:Haven't checked the numbers but it feels like we've had fewer sign ups this year. Anyway to leave it open till possibly this weekend?
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