The Widowmaker's Lair (MT|OOC|Invite, DM, or TG)(PAUSED)

[Eclius]

When is the IC coming?

[Palmyrion]

Also, what's the NPC policy here? Some OPs consider it metagaming, others are cool with it. Is there a separate signup for NPCs?

I'm thinking that the loyalist militias are going to be NPCs (because there is a fuck tonne of them, with approx. 1 militia per metropolitan zone in northern Palmyrion, and there are lots of metropolitan zones in the region). Lardite rebel militias are going to arrive much sooner.

When is the IC coming?

Once I finish my college applications and get back to Bacolod for one last stay before I go to NCR for good (because college), I'll start devoting time for the map (major settlements and geopolitical administrative divisions, climate, and elevation) and the IC thread.

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

Also, what's the NPC policy here? Some OPs consider it metagaming, others are cool with it. Is there a separate signup for NPCs?

I'm thinking that the loyalist militias are going to be NPCs (because there is a fuck tonne of them, with approx. 1 militia per metropolitan zone in northern Palmyrion, and there are lots of metropolitan zones in the region). Lardite rebel militias are going to arrive much sooner.

When is the IC coming?

Once I finish my college applications and get back to Bacolod for one last stay before I go to NCR for good (because college), I'll start devoting time for the map (major settlements and geopolitical administrative divisions, climate, and elevation) and the IC thread.

I assume that we will be able to have property within reason as well, yes? Perfectly legitimate businesses and the like?

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

Mercenaries not really, assassins, yes. The thing with ICA is, it's a shadowy organization and is not considered a legal company/group in Eclius, nor is it a mercenary company (since mercenaries are not legal in Eclius). Most of its assassins for hire have a disguised career. Do expect LamBDA's operatives in civilian disguise. While others may be powerless in a certain situations, ICA, especially initiative 722 (code named LamBDA) is anything but.

I have to ask, what exactly does LamBDA stand for? And I think civilian disguise is pretty standard, aside from Enforcers most of the Pink River will be civilians in the form of dealers, managers, traffickers, etc.

[Eclius]

Mercenaries not really, assassins, yes. The thing with ICA is, it's a shadowy organization and is not considered a legal company/group in Eclius, nor is it a mercenary company (since mercenaries are not legal in Eclius). Most of its assassins for hire have a disguised career. Do expect LamBDA's operatives in civilian disguise. While others may be powerless in a certain situations, ICA, especially initiative 722 (code named LamBDA) is anything but.

I have to ask, what exactly does LamBDA stand for? And I think civilian disguise is pretty standard, aside from Enforcers most of the Pink River will be civilians in the form of dealers, managers, traffickers, etc.

LamBDA is just a code name for the team. They can also disguise as some of the other things like street vendors, doctors, etc.

[Palmyrion]

I'm thinking that the loyalist militias are going to be NPCs (because there is a fuck tonne of them, with approx. 1 militia per metropolitan zone in northern Palmyrion, and there are lots of metropolitan zones in the region). Lardite rebel militias are going to arrive much sooner.

Once I finish my college applications and get back to Bacolod for one last stay before I go to NCR for good (because college), I'll start devoting time for the map (major settlements and geopolitical administrative divisions, climate, and elevation) and the IC thread.

I assume that we will be able to have property within reason as well, yes? Perfectly legitimate businesses and the like?

Using legit businesses to as a cover for the organized crime syndicate's illicit operations? Why not?

[Palmyrion]

BUMP

Hey everyone, updates from the OP:

• Map is underway: topography, roads, railways, cities, and provinces are being attended to. Below is the progress I have done so far.
  
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• I suggest that the Royal Family of Palmyrion receive death threats from just about anyone. It might even become a violent change of regime and even form of government!

[The United Remnants of America]

Let's make the war overflow into Holy Marsh.

[Palmyrion]

Let's make the war overflow into Holy Marsh.

The Vile Lard, a militant apocalyptic cult, is involved, so yes it might even lead to the revival of the Lardite cult in Holy Marsh.

Also, to quote my factbook so as you can have a semblance of what Palmyrion's topography is like:

"Its topography can be generally described as vast shorelines and lowland plains overlooked by expansive highlands and mountain ranges interspersed with dissected intermontane plateaus; these expansive highlands and mountain ranges, whose tallest peaks mark a natural border between Romandeos and Palmyrion, are essentially an extension of the Marshite Hitlion Mountain Range, with the Palmyrian section of this expansive mountain range being given the name the Palmyrian Cordilleras. The three major islands - Templonuevo, Sultan Osmalik, and Guimaras, follow a similar topographical pattern to continental Palmyrion, though the transition from lowland to highland is much more pronounced with more sudden increases in altitude over small stretches of land."

[Western Pacific Territories]

Hello, I am here because I'm interested in RPing as Shogitai. Cuscy gave me the go-ahead to control them.

[New Aeyariss]

Hello, I am here because I'm interested in RPing as Shogitai. Cuscy gave me the go-ahead to control them.

Confirming the claim. In addition I talked with Ralk before and Ralk mentioned being busy...

[Bavarian Austria]

IC faction name: People's Red Front (PRF)
Category (please mark with 'X'):

[]Ethnic ultranationalists
[]Islamist groups
[]Organized crime syndicates
[]Loyalist militias
[X]Other (please briefly elaborate)

Brief overview of ideology: Radical Socialism
Brief biography:Communist revolutionaries originally funded and supplied by the Soviet Union but collapsed when the Soviets realized they were ineffectual at best and a liability at worst. They were originally very incompetent and idiotic college students. It was eventually disbanded. However, recently it has been reformed by former agents of various communist dictatorships seeking refuge.
Description of involvement: Mostly keeping to themselves and staying as low-profile as possible, they recently have started to take territory.
Order of battle (where possible):They stay on the defensive and try to secure captured territory before advancing.

[Palmyrion]

IC faction name: People's Red Front (PRF)
Category (please mark with 'X'):

[]Ethnic ultranationalists
[]Islamist groups
[]Organized crime syndicates
[]Loyalist militias
[X]Other (please briefly elaborate)

Brief overview of ideology: Radical Socialism
Brief biography:Communist revolutionaries originally funded and supplied by the Soviet Union but collapsed when the Soviets realized they were ineffectual at best and a liability at worst. They were originally very incompetent and idiotic college students. It was eventually disbanded. However, recently it has been reformed by former agents of various communist dictatorships seeking refuge.
Description of involvement: Mostly keeping to themselves and staying as low-profile as possible, they recently have started to take territory.
Order of battle (where possible):They stay on the defensive and try to secure captured territory before advancing.

Bavarian Austria: PENDING

An order of battle is a comprehensive enumeration of the units, formation, and equipment of a military force, not the tactics and strategy of the said force.

[Palmyrion]

BUMP

Hello all. Sorry for the delays, but I assure you, progress on the map has been made: I have already completed the borders of some of the provinces in Palmyrion. Once the provincial borders are completed, roads, railways, and other major thoroughfares will be added, but they can wait.

As for the IC, I will start making the first draft come July 17 (GMT+8:00), and will be available for view as a GDocs file. It would be nice if we make a dedicated Discord server for the RP as well.

I should also add that the opening of classes in my freshman year in UP Diliman are on August 3, so expect my activity to be affected, for better or for worse. I would like it if you all update your orders of battle if you already have one (or a better, more realistic one) in mind.

EDIT: Here is the Discord link: https://discord.gg/4pKBBk

[Greater Carloso]

IC faction name: Conquistador Security Consulting Ltd.
Category (please mark with 'X'):

[]Ethnic ultranationalists
[]Islamist groups
[]Organized crime syndicates
[]Loyalist militias
[X]Other (please briefly elaborate)

Brief overview of ideology: Conquistador Security Consulting Ltd. is a Carlosian private military company. As such, it is compelled to 'offer' its numerous services to causes around the world, as seen in Oceanica. Ran by Carlosian military politician and veteran Estebán Santander, its aims are two-fold; generate profit, and clandestinely increase the power and influence of Santander on the world stage.
Brief biography: Conquistador was founded in 2014 with the merger of Aspida Ltd. and Ebon Security Consulting. It is the largest PMC in Carloso, operating a wide variety of high-tech equipment and employing hundreds of thousands of people both in Carloso and around the world. Due to Santander's prominent position in the Carlosian government and its controversial actions both at home and abroad, it is often attacked by political opposition and Carloso's enemies as either another extension of the country's foreign policy or a genuinely evil organisation, hell-bent on pushing an agenda that will destroy Carlosian democracy.
Description of involvement: Conquistador will be aiding Shōgitai and other ultranationalist groups in their attempt to secede from Palmyrion. It will provide training and expertise to these forces, supplying arms and ammunition while deploying its own forces in the area if the situation escalates. One of its main goals is to secure the nuclear weapons.
Order of battle (where possible): Initially clandestine, possibly a few dozen personnel to train and equip rebel forces. If it escalates further, Conquistador will deploy at maximum 15,000 personnel plus assorted warships, transports and light fighter aircraft. It may also recruit militia or paramilitaries locally to bolster its forces.

[The United Remnants of America]

Get outta here, Carloso.

[Greater Carloso]

Get outta here, Carloso.

Why would I? I've some hunting to do.

[Greater Carloso]

Oh yeah if this escalates enough, I might involve the Carlosian military directly, not just the PMC.

[Pan-Asiatic States]

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[Pan-Asiatic States]

IC faction name: The Ministry of State Security of the Pan-Asiatic States (The MSS)
Category (please mark with 'X'):

[]Ethnic ultranationalists
[]Islamist groups
[ X ]Organized crime syndicates
[]Loyalist militias
[]Other (please briefly elaborate)

Brief overview of ideology: (State-Ideology can be found here. It's complicated.) The Ministry of State Security (MSS) is the intelligence and security agency of the Pan-Asiatic States (non-military area of interests), responsible for counter-intelligence, foreign intelligence and political security. It is headquartered in Shanghai. The Ministry's involvement is separated from that of the People's Cadre of Party Security (PCPS), which handles detail for key officials, and the Ministry of Public Security (MPS), which handles domestic affairs; in the sense that their covert operations are scarce released to the public. Its vast arsenal of spies control the various spheres of Pan-Asiatic influence, and even rig international-political affairs when beneficial and necessary.
Brief biography: The Ministry of Public Security was among the very first government organs of the People's Republic of China, and eventually became one of the largest amongst the vast array of nations which once comprised the States. It superseded the Ministry of Public Security of the Chinese Communist Party's Central Military Commission, a transitional body created in July 1949 by removing the security service remit from the CCP Central Department of Social Affairs (CDSA). The ministry began operations on 1 November 1949, at the end of a two-week-long National Conference of Senior Public Security Cadres. Most of its initial staff of less than 500 cadres came from the (former) regional CCP North China Department of Social Affairs. At the national level, its creation signaled the formal abolition of the CDSA. The ministry moved to its present location, in the heart of the one-time foreign legation quarters in Shanghai, in the spring of 1950.
Description of involvement: The involvement of the MSS will be strictly covert, and can be alluded to that of the CIA through Blackwater. The Yakuza Gang, and several other crime syndicates from the Pan-Asiatic States, intend to provide aid for the Communist Syndicate and their bilateral partners in revolution.
Order of battle (where possible):

• 5 companies worth of specialized agents (~200)
• 10 companies worth of veteran Commissariat "Mercenaries" (~965)
• Logistical employees, "Hitches", and Civilian Saboteurs (~85)

[New Aeyariss]

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IC faction name: The Ministry of State Security of the Pan-Asiatic States (The MSS)
Category (please mark with 'X'):

[]Ethnic ultranationalists
[]Islamist groups
[ X ]Organized crime syndicates
[]Loyalist militias
[]Other (please briefly elaborate)

Brief overview of ideology: (State-Ideology can be found here. It's complicated.) The Ministry of State Security (MSS) is the intelligence and security agency of the Pan-Asiatic States (non-military area of interests), responsible for counter-intelligence, foreign intelligence and political security. It is headquartered in Shanghai. The Ministry's involvement is separated from that of the People's Cadre of Party Security (PCPS), which handles detail for key officials, and the Ministry of Public Security (MPS), which handles domestic affairs; in the sense that their covert operations are scarce released to the public. Its vast arsenal of spies control the various spheres of Pan-Asiatic influence, and even rig international-political affairs when beneficial and necessary.
Brief biography: The Ministry of Public Security was among the very first government organs of the People's Republic of China, and eventually became one of the largest amongst the vast array of nations which once comprised the States. It superseded the Ministry of Public Security of the Chinese Communist Party's Central Military Commission, a transitional body created in July 1949 by removing the security service remit from the CCP Central Department of Social Affairs (CDSA). The ministry began operations on 1 November 1949, at the end of a two-week-long National Conference of Senior Public Security Cadres. Most of its initial staff of less than 500 cadres came from the (former) regional CCP North China Department of Social Affairs. At the national level, its creation signaled the formal abolition of the CDSA. The ministry moved to its present location, in the heart of the one-time foreign legation quarters in Shanghai, in the spring of 1950.
Description of involvement: The involvement of the MSS will be strictly covert, and can be alluded to that of the CIA through Blackwater. The Yakuza Gang, and several other crime syndicates from the Pan-Asiatic States, intend to provide aid for the Communist Syndicate and their bilateral partners in revolution.
Order of battle (where possible):

• 5 companies worth of specialized agents (~200)
• 10 companies worth of veteran Commissariat "Mercenaries" (~965)
• Logistical employees, "Hitches", and Civilian Saboteurs (~85)

I recommend this person be denied due to extensive godmodding and poor RPing skills.

[Pan-Asiatic States]

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IC faction name: The Ministry of State Security of the Pan-Asiatic States (The MSS)
Category (please mark with 'X'):

[]Ethnic ultranationalists
[]Islamist groups
[ X ]Organized crime syndicates
[]Loyalist militias
[]Other (please briefly elaborate)

Brief overview of ideology: (State-Ideology can be found here. It's complicated.) The Ministry of State Security (MSS) is the intelligence and security agency of the Pan-Asiatic States (non-military area of interests), responsible for counter-intelligence, foreign intelligence and political security. It is headquartered in Shanghai. The Ministry's involvement is separated from that of the People's Cadre of Party Security (PCPS), which handles detail for key officials, and the Ministry of Public Security (MPS), which handles domestic affairs; in the sense that their covert operations are scarce released to the public. Its vast arsenal of spies control the various spheres of Pan-Asiatic influence, and even rig international-political affairs when beneficial and necessary.
Brief biography: The Ministry of Public Security was among the very first government organs of the People's Republic of China, and eventually became one of the largest amongst the vast array of nations which once comprised the States. It superseded the Ministry of Public Security of the Chinese Communist Party's Central Military Commission, a transitional body created in July 1949 by removing the security service remit from the CCP Central Department of Social Affairs (CDSA). The ministry began operations on 1 November 1949, at the end of a two-week-long National Conference of Senior Public Security Cadres. Most of its initial staff of less than 500 cadres came from the (former) regional CCP North China Department of Social Affairs. At the national level, its creation signaled the formal abolition of the CDSA. The ministry moved to its present location, in the heart of the one-time foreign legation quarters in Shanghai, in the spring of 1950.
Description of involvement: The involvement of the MSS will be strictly covert, and can be alluded to that of the CIA through Blackwater. The Yakuza Gang, and several other crime syndicates from the Pan-Asiatic States, intend to provide aid for the Communist Syndicate and their bilateral partners in revolution.
Order of battle (where possible):

• 5 companies worth of specialized agents (~200)
• 10 companies worth of veteran Commissariat "Mercenaries" (~965)
• Logistical employees, "Hitches", and Civilian Saboteurs (~85)

I recommend this person be denied due to extensive godmodding and poor RPing skills.

And I recommend you don't let a few casual RPs judge my skills as a whole.

[Eclius]

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IC faction name: The Ministry of State Security of the Pan-Asiatic States (The MSS)
Category (please mark with 'X'):

[]Ethnic ultranationalists
[]Islamist groups
[ X ]Organized crime syndicates
[]Loyalist militias
[]Other (please briefly elaborate)

Brief overview of ideology: (State-Ideology can be found here. It's complicated.) The Ministry of State Security (MSS) is the intelligence and security agency of the Pan-Asiatic States (non-military area of interests), responsible for counter-intelligence, foreign intelligence and political security. It is headquartered in Shanghai. The Ministry's involvement is separated from that of the People's Cadre of Party Security (PCPS), which handles detail for key officials, and the Ministry of Public Security (MPS), which handles domestic affairs; in the sense that their covert operations are scarce released to the public. Its vast arsenal of spies control the various spheres of Pan-Asiatic influence, and even rig international-political affairs when beneficial and necessary.
Brief biography: The Ministry of Public Security was among the very first government organs of the People's Republic of China, and eventually became one of the largest amongst the vast array of nations which once comprised the States. It superseded the Ministry of Public Security of the Chinese Communist Party's Central Military Commission, a transitional body created in July 1949 by removing the security service remit from the CCP Central Department of Social Affairs (CDSA). The ministry began operations on 1 November 1949, at the end of a two-week-long National Conference of Senior Public Security Cadres. Most of its initial staff of less than 500 cadres came from the (former) regional CCP North China Department of Social Affairs. At the national level, its creation signaled the formal abolition of the CDSA. The ministry moved to its present location, in the heart of the one-time foreign legation quarters in Shanghai, in the spring of 1950.
Description of involvement: The involvement of the MSS will be strictly covert, and can be alluded to that of the CIA through Blackwater. The Yakuza Gang, and several other crime syndicates from the Pan-Asiatic States, intend to provide aid for the Communist Syndicate and their bilateral partners in revolution.
Order of battle (where possible):

• 5 companies worth of specialized agents (~200)
• 10 companies worth of veteran Commissariat "Mercenaries" (~965)
• Logistical employees, "Hitches", and Civilian Saboteurs (~85)

I recommend this person be denied due to extensive godmodding and poor RPing skills.

Not really, PAS is a decent RPer, I've been to several RPs with him. New Aeyariss, who knows more about PAS, you or a guy who's in his RP group (me)??

[Holy Marsh]

Let's make the war overflow into Holy Marsh.

The Vile Lard, a militant apocalyptic cult, is involved, so yes it might even lead to the revival of the Lardite cult in Holy Marsh.

Also, to quote my factbook so as you can have a semblance of what Palmyrion's topography is like:

"Its topography can be generally described as vast shorelines and lowland plains overlooked by expansive highlands and mountain ranges interspersed with dissected intermontane plateaus; these expansive highlands and mountain ranges, whose tallest peaks mark a natural border between Romandeos and Palmyrion, are essentially an extension of the Marshite Hitlion Mountain Range, with the Palmyrian section of this expansive mountain range being given the name the Palmyrian Cordilleras. The three major islands - Templonuevo, Sultan Osmalik, and Guimaras, follow a similar topographical pattern to continental Palmyrion, though the transition from lowland to highland is much more pronounced with more sudden increases in altitude over small stretches of land."

As an FYI, I am staying out of this due to concerns over numbers but if the Lardite Cult were to make serious inroads into Palmyrion, we would be forced to respond, same in the case of it overflowing into the Theocracy or even Romandeos.

[The United Remnants of America]

The Vile Lard, a militant apocalyptic cult, is involved, so yes it might even lead to the revival of the Lardite cult in Holy Marsh.

Also, to quote my factbook so as you can have a semblance of what Palmyrion's topography is like:

"Its topography can be generally described as vast shorelines and lowland plains overlooked by expansive highlands and mountain ranges interspersed with dissected intermontane plateaus; these expansive highlands and mountain ranges, whose tallest peaks mark a natural border between Romandeos and Palmyrion, are essentially an extension of the Marshite Hitlion Mountain Range, with the Palmyrian section of this expansive mountain range being given the name the Palmyrian Cordilleras. The three major islands - Templonuevo, Sultan Osmalik, and Guimaras, follow a similar topographical pattern to continental Palmyrion, though the transition from lowland to highland is much more pronounced with more sudden increases in altitude over small stretches of land."

As an FYI, I am staying out of this due to concerns over numbers but if the Lardite Cult were to make serious inroads into Palmyrion, we would be forced to respond, same in the case of it overflowing into the Theocracy or even Romandeos.

All I heard was "make the war overflow into Marshite land to get them to respond."