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Thoughts on rebooting?

1: Yes, reboot
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2: A reboot is ok, but not now
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3: Don't reboot
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Total votes : 25

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The Imperial Warglorian Empire
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Postby The Imperial Warglorian Empire » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:30 am

Hypron wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:Egypt is rebelling and trying to take control of the Suez Canal away from you


I don't mind the Suez Canal, but i care about Alexandria. That is my only naval base in the Eastern Med.

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You do realise that without the Suez Canal, you can't move your navy inside our outside the Mediterranean from East Africa, Asia, or the Middle East without having to go around all of Africa right?
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:32 am

The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:
Hypron wrote:
I don't mind the Suez Canal, but i care about Alexandria. That is my only naval base in the Eastern Med.

....
You do realise that without the Suez Canal, you can't move your navy inside our outside the Mediterranean from East Africa, Asia, or the Middle East without having to go around all of Africa right?


I can easily force my way through that canal, or pay for military access. Egypt from 1949-1960 had a very weak military, (at least weaker than the British Military) so I could just occupy it.
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Dentali
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Postby Dentali » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:36 am

Hypron wrote:
The Imperial Warglorian Empire wrote:....
You do realise that without the Suez Canal, you can't move your navy inside our outside the Mediterranean from East Africa, Asia, or the Middle East without having to go around all of Africa right?


I can easily force my way through that canal, or pay for military access.


The Suez canal is the single most important asset the british have... by far. i cannot express in words how important it is to maintaining a global british empire, if you lose access you are fucked. You want to sell it off thats one thing, but you NEED access
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Greater Redosia
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Postby Greater Redosia » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:38 am

Asardia wrote:Updated list of apps.

State of Israel: Greater Redosia
Portuguese Union: Arvenia
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia: Aviz Portugal

I'm still having epic issues with Norddeutschland and the American occupation zones. France's borders remain off because of that as well. Anyway, I hope things are for the most part updated and correct. West Germany is proving ridiculously difficult, even with the actual post war map as a reference

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Yaruqo
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Postby Yaruqo » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:39 am

Asardia wrote:Updated list of apps.

State of Israel: Greater Redosia
Portuguese Union: Arvenia
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia: Aviz Portugal

I'm still having epic issues with Norddeutschland and the American occupation zones. France's borders remain off because of that as well. Anyway, I hope things are for the most part updated and correct. West Germany is proving ridiculously difficult, even with the actual post war map as a reference

https://i.imgur.com/pg8uM7u.png


I think Egypt got left off, but there's always the next iteration of the map :)
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:41 am

If i have U.S. backing, ill think about going through Operation Revise.

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Dentali
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Postby Dentali » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:46 am

Hypron wrote:If i have U.S. backing, ill think about going through Operation Revise.



they havent taken the canal yet!
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:48 am

The first 2 parts of it, while Wavell's army will reinforce the Suez Canal.

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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:52 am

Hypron wrote:The first 2 parts of it, while Wavell's army will reinforce the Suez Canal.

Want to simulate some combat between the British Army in Africa and the African Liberation Army?
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:53 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Hypron wrote:The first 2 parts of it, while Wavell's army will reinforce the Suez Canal.

Want to simulate some combat between the British Army in Africa and the African Liberation Army?


Wavell will have some spares, so sure.

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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:00 am

Well, that's about 35,000 troops and 250 Centurion Tanks, along with 2 fleets. heading to the Suez Canal. My economy is gonna die soon, with all these deployments.
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Greater Redosia
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Postby Greater Redosia » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:08 am

Hypron wrote:Well, that's about 35,000 troops and 250 Centurion Tanks, along with 2 fleets. heading to the Suez Canal. My economy is gonna die soon, with all these deployments.


One could attempt diplomatic discussion, rather than using a military strong arm at the beginning.
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:10 am

Greater Redosia wrote:
Hypron wrote:Well, that's about 35,000 troops and 250 Centurion Tanks, along with 2 fleets. heading to the Suez Canal. My economy is gonna die soon, with all these deployments.


One could attempt diplomatic discussion, rather than using a military strong arm at the beginning.


Guard interests first, diplomacy second. I've done the first one, now for the second one.

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The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune
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Founded: Feb 01, 2017
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:18 am

All right, back from a short trip, gonna post in the IC in a hot sec.

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Yaruqo
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Postby Yaruqo » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:26 am

Hypron wrote:Well, that's about 35,000 troops and 250 Centurion Tanks, along with 2 fleets. heading to the Suez Canal. My economy is gonna die soon, with all these deployments.


Are they in Libya? Are some of those troops already in Egypt?
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:30 am

Yaruqo wrote:
Hypron wrote:Well, that's about 35,000 troops and 250 Centurion Tanks, along with 2 fleets. heading to the Suez Canal. My economy is gonna die soon, with all these deployments.


Are they in Libya? Are some of those troops already in Egypt?


According to how I'm deploying it: there are a total of 150,000 troops and 1,000 tanks in Africa. 35,000 troops and 250 tanks heading by sea to the Suez Canal, about 15,000 troops in a military base 10 miles to the southwest of Cairo, 80,000 troops and 600 tanks in Libya, and 30,000 troops and 150 tanks dispersed in the South. This will be it until I find some actual numbers on British forces in Africa in 1949
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Aviz Portugal
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Postby Aviz Portugal » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:37 am

If Egypt somehow wins this, gonna have to pull a Mossadegh on those good oil 8)
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:38 am

Aviz Portugal wrote:If Egypt somehow wins this, gonna have to pull a Mossadegh on those good oil 8)


They still outnumber me land wise, with 300,000 men to 150,000. All they need is tanks and a Air Force.

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Dentali
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Postby Dentali » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:40 am

Hypron wrote:
Aviz Portugal wrote:If Egypt somehow wins this, gonna have to pull a Mossadegh on those good oil 8)


They still outnumber me land wise, with 300,000 men to 150,000. All they need is tanks and a Air Force.



you have the defenders advantage plus an army much better trained and full of veterans. You have an advantage in armor, technology and offshore battleship support. The egyptians would be slaughtered
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:46 am

Dentali wrote:
Hypron wrote:
They still outnumber me land wise, with 300,000 men to 150,000. All they need is tanks and a Air Force.



you have the defenders advantage plus an army much better trained and full of veterans. You have an advantage in armor, technology and offshore battleship support. The Egyptians would be slaughtered


There are some counters to a few of these factors: Armor: I would have to hold the cities of Port Said and Suez, making armored support near-ineffective
Defensive: I would have to spread my forces along both sides of the canal, as they control the mainland and the Sinai Peninsula. With only 35,000 troops in the area, I would be stretched near thin.
Naval Support: Danger close= don't fire, plus we won't cause civilian casualties in Port Said and Suez. Meaning that these 2 cities would have only naval air support.

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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:48 am

Imma need the Soviets to respond ASAP before the Suez Crisis blows over.
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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:51 am

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Imma need the Soviets to respond ASAP before the Suez Crisis blows over.


I'm gonna have problems if my Centurions go up against T-54 medium tanks. Not because of ridiculousness, but because my 84 mm gun will have problems with its armor.
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Speyland
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Postby Speyland » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:56 am

Am I accepted?

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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:57 am

Speyland wrote:Am I accepted?


Yes you were.

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Postby Greater Liverpool » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:58 am

Hypron wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Imma need the Soviets to respond ASAP before the Suez Crisis blows over.


I'm gonna have problems if my Centurions go up against T-54 medium tanks. Not because of ridiculousness, but because my 84 mm gun will have problems with its armor.


84mm can pen a t-55
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