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Postby The Starlight » Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:13 am

Faal Lot Himdah wrote:
The Starlight wrote:Ah man, someone already took my humanoid dragon shifters from the last iteration of this. Rats! I'll try and think of something else then.


They aren't shifters...

Well, it's too similar to me. Don't worry about it, I'm thinking of doing a dwarven-esque race instead.
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Postby Kherkov » Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:15 am

The Starlight wrote:
Faal Lot Himdah wrote:
They aren't shifters...

Well, it's too similar to me. Don't worry about it, I'm thinking of doing a dwarven-esque race instead.


Would be good. No dwarves as of yet.
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Postby Leo X » Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:59 am

Leo X wrote:Reserving myself a warhammer beastmen sort of thing


Posted this in the other thread

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Postby Shnercropolis » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:15 am

I think a lot of people have military sizes that are wayy too big for their populations, especially since this is (mostly) in the middle ages. Having that big of a standing military is going to cause massive famines, since it takes so many people to work the fields. I can understand if you're a very warlike civilization, but still, you need to have like 20:1 civilians-to-soldiers to have an effective military. I even think the size of my army is pushing it.
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Postby Kherkov » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:34 am

Shnercropolis wrote:I think a lot of people have military sizes that are wayy too big for their populations, especially since this is (mostly) in the middle ages. Having that big of a standing military is going to cause massive famines, since it takes so many people to work the fields. I can understand if you're a very warlike civilization, but still, you need to have like 20:1 civilians-to-soldiers to have an effective military. I even think the size of my army is pushing it.


Which is why I only have a small military.

Buuut, this is fantasy. Only my nation is actually full of humans. As for the other races, I have no idea how much they eat, how well they're able to live off the land, etc.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:38 am

Kherkov wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:I think a lot of people have military sizes that are wayy too big for their populations, especially since this is (mostly) in the middle ages. Having that big of a standing military is going to cause massive famines, since it takes so many people to work the fields. I can understand if you're a very warlike civilization, but still, you need to have like 20:1 civilians-to-soldiers to have an effective military. I even think the size of my army is pushing it.


Which is why I only have a small military.

Buuut, this is fantasy. Only my nation is actually full of humans. As for the other races, I have no idea how much they eat, how well they're able to live off the land, etc.

Possibly. I still think that everyone should re-evaluate their military sizes.
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Postby Elerian » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:44 am

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Kherkov wrote:
Which is why I only have a small military.

Buuut, this is fantasy. Only my nation is actually full of humans. As for the other races, I have no idea how much they eat, how well they're able to live off the land, etc.

Possibly. I still think that everyone should re-evaluate their military sizes.


I presume that is directed somewhat at me. I realize I have a huge military but you should keep in mind a few things. Firstly, the Nimrev aren't unified, thus you likely won't see all those Ratmen in one army unless you've really pissed off all the clans. Secondly, a majority of those soldiers are basically cannon fodder, or are poorly equipped. And lastly, this isn't really a standing army. Yes, they do have a great many soldiers that remain active, but the cannon fodder soldiers I mentioned are miners, farmers, etc. unless they're called upon like levies.

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Postby Zgraja » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:52 am

Finally got my app up. Partially...

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Postby Shnercropolis » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:00 am

Elerian wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:Possibly. I still think that everyone should re-evaluate their military sizes.


I presume that is directed somewhat at me. I realize I have a huge military but you should keep in mind a few things. Firstly, the Nimrev aren't unified, thus you likely won't see all those Ratmen in one army unless you've really pissed off all the clans. Secondly, a majority of those soldiers are basically cannon fodder, or are poorly equipped. And lastly, this isn't really a standing army. Yes, they do have a great many soldiers that remain active, but the cannon fodder soldiers I mentioned are miners, farmers, etc. unless they're called upon like levies.

I guess it's directed somewhat at you, although not specifically at all. Sorry if I sounded accusing.

If it isn't a standing army, then you should probably make that clear in your app. It reads like you have a horde of rat-people and monsters waiting to be deployed.
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Postby Elerian » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:05 am

Shnercropolis wrote:
Elerian wrote:
I presume that is directed somewhat at me. I realize I have a huge military but you should keep in mind a few things. Firstly, the Nimrev aren't unified, thus you likely won't see all those Ratmen in one army unless you've really pissed off all the clans. Secondly, a majority of those soldiers are basically cannon fodder, or are poorly equipped. And lastly, this isn't really a standing army. Yes, they do have a great many soldiers that remain active, but the cannon fodder soldiers I mentioned are miners, farmers, etc. unless they're called upon like levies.

I guess it's directed somewhat at you, although not specifically at all. Sorry if I sounded accusing.

If it isn't a standing army, then you should probably make that clear in your app. It reads like you have a horde of rat-people and monsters waiting to be deployed.


Well that is the point isn't it? That I potentially have hordes of rats ready to march at a beck and call?

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Postby Shnercropolis » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:11 am

Elerian wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:I guess it's directed somewhat at you, although not specifically at all. Sorry if I sounded accusing.

If it isn't a standing army, then you should probably make that clear in your app. It reads like you have a horde of rat-people and monsters waiting to be deployed.


Well that is the point isn't it? That I potentially have hordes of rats ready to march at a beck and call?

Well if they're just levees why be scared?
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Postby Britcan » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:12 am

Zgraja wrote:Finally got my app up. Partially...

It's a great start. The ability to heal other races, but not themselves, could be very interesting.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby Elerian » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:34 am

Shnercropolis wrote:
Elerian wrote:
Well that is the point isn't it? That I potentially have hordes of rats ready to march at a beck and call?

Well if they're just levees why be scared?


Like I said, not all of them are levies, but I don't know?

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Postby Vredlandia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:48 am

Britcan wrote:
Zgraja wrote:Finally got my app up. Partially...

It's a great start. The ability to heal other races, but not themselves, could be very interesting.


Yeah. If the Krowl are ever in danger, they will be welcome on our islands. :P

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Postby The Starlight » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:13 am

Can I have most of my dwarven nation underground or inside a mountain?
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Postby Britcan » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:37 am

The Starlight wrote:Can I have most of my dwarven nation underground or inside a mountain?

I'm sure that will be absolutely fine.

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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:56 pm

Shnercropolis wrote:
Kherkov wrote:
Which is why I only have a small military.

Buuut, this is fantasy. Only my nation is actually full of humans. As for the other races, I have no idea how much they eat, how well they're able to live off the land, etc.

Possibly. I still think that everyone should re-evaluate their military sizes.



My standing army is 1.5% of the population with a 3% Levie, which is essentially civilians who we can call to arms as soldiers. They all have real jobs, but they can be called up by their lords.

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Postby Bentus » Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:33 pm

Anyone have a Far Eastern inspired nation at all?
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Postby Britcan » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:14 pm

Bentus wrote:Anyone have a Far Eastern inspired nation at all?

Not that I can think of off the top of my head. Obviously your nation will have to be more than just far-eastern, you need a race and such, but it's a decent idea to build on.

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Postby Bentus » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:02 pm

Britcan wrote:
Bentus wrote:Anyone have a Far Eastern inspired nation at all?

Not that I can think of off the top of my head. Obviously your nation will have to be more than just far-eastern, you need a race and such, but it's a decent idea to build on.


Course ;) Are we allowed to be the same race as someone else? i.e. human?

Also, how will time pass? I'm assuming it will basically flow however we need it to in the IC, but is it reasonable to expect decades to pass (perhaps in designated time skips?)?
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Postby Zgraja » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:53 pm

Bentus wrote:
Britcan wrote:Not that I can think of off the top of my head. Obviously your nation will have to be more than just far-eastern, you need a race and such, but it's a decent idea to build on.


Course ;) Are we allowed to be the same race as someone else? i.e. human?

Also, how will time pass? I'm assuming it will basically flow however we need it to in the IC, but is it reasonable to expect decades to pass (perhaps in designated time skips?)?


No, my understanding is that only Kherkov has humans. Other players need to create a race.

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Postby Elerian » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:55 pm

Bentus wrote:
Britcan wrote:Not that I can think of off the top of my head. Obviously your nation will have to be more than just far-eastern, you need a race and such, but it's a decent idea to build on.


Course ;) Are we allowed to be the same race as someone else? i.e. human?

Also, how will time pass? I'm assuming it will basically flow however we need it to in the IC, but is it reasonable to expect decades to pass (perhaps in designated time skips?)?


They can be off-brand humans, but they have to be different from run of the mill humans, otherwise you have to be something else.

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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:29 am

I've edited my application - now my people can see in the dark and have access to a unique form of magic as part of their race.

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Postby Bentus » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:44 am

Elerian wrote:
Bentus wrote:
Course ;) Are we allowed to be the same race as someone else? i.e. human?

Also, how will time pass? I'm assuming it will basically flow however we need it to in the IC, but is it reasonable to expect decades to pass (perhaps in designated time skips?)?


They can be off-brand humans, but they have to be different from run of the mill humans, otherwise you have to be something else.


Cool beans. How about the passage of time thing?
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Postby Zgraja » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:01 am

My app is finished.

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