Oh well, I'm okay with not getting a definite answer to that one.
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by Individuality-ness » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:14 pm
by Milks Empire » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:14 pm
Alexlantis wrote:Astrolinium wrote:Why, exactly, is nationalism in and of itself bad?
It divides people over something which is pointless, it caused the huge death toll of WWI, and it caused fascism to become popular in the post-WWI world. Plus, it assumes that one person's nation is superior to another's.
Why should it matter if someone is French or German or American or British? Why create policies that put another nation down? All you're really doing is putting other people down.
We shouldn't be bickering over imaginary borders enforced by guns and imaginary loyalties enforced by mass agreement. We should be working together to provide freedom and prosperity for all people.
Noobubersland wrote:Did I really just read about Scotland being acquired by imperialism?
by The Realm of God » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:15 pm
Noobubersland wrote:Did I really just read about Scotland being acquired by imperialism?
by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:16 pm
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.
by Cill Airne » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:16 pm
Milks Empire wrote:Alexlantis wrote:It divides people over something which is pointless, it caused the huge death toll of WWI, and it caused fascism to become popular in the post-WWI world. Plus, it assumes that one person's nation is superior to another's.
Why should it matter if someone is French or German or American or British? Why create policies that put another nation down? All you're really doing is putting other people down.
We shouldn't be bickering over imaginary borders enforced by guns and imaginary loyalties enforced by mass agreement. We should be working together to provide freedom and prosperity for all people.Noobubersland wrote:Did I really just read about Scotland being acquired by imperialism?
Scotland and England actually wound up fused because they shared a monarch from 1603. Not that England didn't try the imperialistic route for hundreds of years before that, but it was, in the end, because Lizzy never got laid.
by Alexlantis » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:16 pm
Astrolinium wrote:Alexlantis wrote:It divides people over something which is pointless, it caused the huge death toll of WWI, and it caused fascism to become popular in the post-WWI world. Plus, it assumes that one person's nation is superior to another's.
Why should it matter if someone is French or German or American or British? Why create policies that put another nation down? All you're really doing is putting other people down.
We shouldn't be bickering over imaginary borders enforced by guns and imaginary loyalties enforced by mass agreement. We should be working together to provide freedom and prosperity for all people.
**shrug**
I think national pride and patriotism are extremely useful tools for creating a national economy which is competitive in the global marketplace, especially if the economy is socialist in nature, as that naturally aims to reduce competition within the nation.
Individuality-ness wrote:You are Alex, NSG's writer and lead procrastinator. *nods* :P
by Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:16 pm
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.
by Cill Airne » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:17 pm
Saorsa airson Alba agus tiocfaidh ár láH-Alba wrote:The Realm of God wrote:
Perhaps I don't want to be 'freed from my English overlords' I am happy with the UK.
At leest that's better than salmond's ceilidh. they arenae, th' rabid type ay nationalist.
It might just be that I grew up speaking Gaelic, with both my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc being native Gaelic speakers that I detest English, both the language and its government. I really don't mean offense, but as someone who did grow up speaking Gaelic, I have heard stories from my parents, and grandparents, their parents (etc) about the racism against the Gaels by both the Lowland Scots and the English, and anyone in the UK can see the same views about the Highlanders and Gaels in particular are still espoused today, that have their origins from the Highland clearances. I have heard the term teuchter used more than once as an insult, not jokingly. Racism against the Gaels still exists today. While I don't think independence solves that, it is a step in the right direction seperating us from the reason why an ethno-linguistic group still sees racist thoughts to this day.
by Individuality-ness » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:18 pm
Individuality-ness wrote:Had to make a left turn, and all of a sudden pedestrians began crossing the street. The light changed, and I was still in the intersection because I wasn't sure if it was safe to turn. Had to be told to get out of the intersection, so obviously, I failed. >.<
Coffee Cakes wrote:Individuality-ness wrote:1. Yeah, I know. I read it this morning before I went out and made that critical error.
2. Of course. I am a person, with likes and dislikes and a few quirks, not Asperger's "sufferer" #1486287 or whatever.
#1,
#2, Exactly. And it's not suffering, it's just that our minds were wired different.
by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:18 pm
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.
by Coffee Cakes » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:18 pm
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by The Realm of God » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm
H-Alba wrote:The Realm of God wrote:
Perhaps I don't want to be 'freed from my English overlords' I am happy with the UK.
At leest that's better than salmond's ceilidh. they arenae, th' rabid type ay nationalist.
It might just be that I grew up speaking Gaelic, with both my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc being native Gaelic speakers that I detest English, both the language and its government. I really don't mean offense, but as someone who did grow up speaking Gaelic, I have heard stories from my parents, and grandparents, their parents (etc) about the racism against the Gaels by both the Lowland Scots and the English, and anyone in the UK can see the same views about the Highlanders and Gaels in particular are still espoused today, that have their origins from the Highland clearances. I have heard the term teuchter used more than once as an insult, not jokingly. Racism against the Gaels still exists today. While I don't think independence solves that, it is a step in the right direction seperating us from the reason why an ethno-linguistic group still sees racist thoughts to this day.
by Milks Empire » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm
Cill Airne wrote:Milks Empire wrote:Scotland and England actually wound up fused because they shared a monarch from 1603. Not that England didn't try the imperialistic route for hundreds of years before that, but it was, in the end, because Lizzy never got laid.
I'm pretty sure she did, she just never had any legitimate children. Also, even if the Stuarts had a Scottish origin, after the first few they were no different than any English monarch in the past.
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by Dyakovo » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm
by Noobubersland » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm
by New England and The Maritimes » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:20 pm
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.
by Individuality-ness » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:21 pm
by Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:21 pm
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.
by Alexlantis » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:21 pm
Individuality-ness wrote:You are Alex, NSG's writer and lead procrastinator. *nods* :P
by Yuktova » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:21 pm
Goldsaver said: This is murder, not a romantic date!
by Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:22 pm
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.
by Astrolinium » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:22 pm
Alexlantis wrote:Astrolinium wrote:
**shrug**
I think national pride and patriotism are extremely useful tools for creating a national economy which is competitive in the global marketplace, especially if the economy is socialist in nature, as that naturally aims to reduce competition within the nation.
That is only if there's Socialism in One Country, as set forth by Stalin. If there's global revolution, then nationalism has no value.
by Yuktova » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:22 pm
Astrolinium wrote:Alexlantis wrote:It divides people over something which is pointless, it caused the huge death toll of WWI, and it caused fascism to become popular in the post-WWI world. Plus, it assumes that one person's nation is superior to another's.
Why should it matter if someone is French or German or American or British? Why create policies that put another nation down? All you're really doing is putting other people down.
We shouldn't be bickering over imaginary borders enforced by guns and imaginary loyalties enforced by mass agreement. We should be working together to provide freedom and prosperity for all people.
**shrug**
I think national pride and patriotism are extremely useful tools for creating a national economy which is competitive in the global marketplace, especially if the economy is socialist in nature, as that naturally aims to reduce competition within the nation.
Goldsaver said: This is murder, not a romantic date!
by Cill Airne » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:23 pm
Milks Empire wrote:Cill Airne wrote:I'm pretty sure she did, she just never had any legitimate children. Also, even if the Stuarts had a Scottish origin, after the first few they were no different than any English monarch in the past.
James IV was, as I recall, the last Scottish monarch to speak Gaelic at all. Whether it was Scots or English his immediate successors spoke I don't know, but whichever it was, Gaelic it was not.
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