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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:14 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:Heighten my suspicions a little, why don't you? :P

Yes, ma'am. :hug:

:hug: Oh well, I'm okay with not getting a definite answer to that one. :lol:
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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:14 pm

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Astrolinium wrote:Why, exactly, is nationalism in and of itself bad?

It divides people over something which is pointless, it caused the huge death toll of WWI, and it caused fascism to become popular in the post-WWI world. Plus, it assumes that one person's nation is superior to another's.
Why should it matter if someone is French or German or American or British? Why create policies that put another nation down? All you're really doing is putting other people down.
We shouldn't be bickering over imaginary borders enforced by guns and imaginary loyalties enforced by mass agreement. We should be working together to provide freedom and prosperity for all people.

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Noobubersland wrote:Did I really just read about Scotland being acquired by imperialism? :rofl:

Scotland and England actually wound up fused because they shared a monarch from 1603. Not that England didn't try the imperialistic route for hundreds of years before that, but it was, in the end, because Lizzy never got laid. :p

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Postby The Realm of God » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:15 pm

Noobubersland wrote:Did I really just read about Scotland being acquired by imperialism? :rofl:


I know I find the SNP, questionable at best.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:16 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Yes, ma'am. :hug:

:hug: Oh well, I'm okay with not getting a definite answer to that one. :lol:

:hug:
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Postby Cill Airne » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:16 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
Alexlantis wrote:It divides people over something which is pointless, it caused the huge death toll of WWI, and it caused fascism to become popular in the post-WWI world. Plus, it assumes that one person's nation is superior to another's.
Why should it matter if someone is French or German or American or British? Why create policies that put another nation down? All you're really doing is putting other people down.
We shouldn't be bickering over imaginary borders enforced by guns and imaginary loyalties enforced by mass agreement. We should be working together to provide freedom and prosperity for all people.

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Noobubersland wrote:Did I really just read about Scotland being acquired by imperialism? :rofl:

Scotland and England actually wound up fused because they shared a monarch from 1603. Not that England didn't try the imperialistic route for hundreds of years before that, but it was, in the end, because Lizzy never got laid. :p

I'm pretty sure she did, she just never had any legitimate children. Also, even if the Stuarts had a Scottish origin, after the first few they were no different than any English monarch in the past.
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Postby Alexlantis » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:16 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Alexlantis wrote:It divides people over something which is pointless, it caused the huge death toll of WWI, and it caused fascism to become popular in the post-WWI world. Plus, it assumes that one person's nation is superior to another's.

Why should it matter if someone is French or German or American or British? Why create policies that put another nation down? All you're really doing is putting other people down.

We shouldn't be bickering over imaginary borders enforced by guns and imaginary loyalties enforced by mass agreement. We should be working together to provide freedom and prosperity for all people.


**shrug**

I think national pride and patriotism are extremely useful tools for creating a national economy which is competitive in the global marketplace, especially if the economy is socialist in nature, as that naturally aims to reduce competition within the nation.

That is only if there's Socialism in One Country, as set forth by Stalin. If there's global revolution, then nationalism has no value.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:16 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:Yes, ma'am. :hug:

:hug: Oh well, I'm okay with not getting a definite answer to that one. :lol:

Why is someone possibly liking my wife?
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Postby Cill Airne » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:17 pm

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Perhaps I don't want to be 'freed from my English overlords' I am happy with the UK.

At leest that's better than salmond's ceilidh. they arenae, th' rabid type ay nationalist.

It might just be that I grew up speaking Gaelic, with both my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc being native Gaelic speakers that I detest English, both the language and its government. I really don't mean offense, but as someone who did grow up speaking Gaelic, I have heard stories from my parents, and grandparents, their parents (etc) about the racism against the Gaels by both the Lowland Scots and the English, and anyone in the UK can see the same views about the Highlanders and Gaels in particular are still espoused today, that have their origins from the Highland clearances. I have heard the term teuchter used more than once as an insult, not jokingly. Racism against the Gaels still exists today. While I don't think independence solves that, it is a step in the right direction seperating us from the reason why an ethno-linguistic group still sees racist thoughts to this day.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:18 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:1. Yeah, I know. I read it this morning before I went out and made that critical error.
2. Of course. I am a person, with likes and dislikes and a few quirks, not Asperger's "sufferer" #1486287 or whatever.

What mistake? :hug:

To requote myself earlier:

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Individuality-ness wrote:1. Yeah, I know. I read it this morning before I went out and made that critical error.
2. Of course. I am a person, with likes and dislikes and a few quirks, not Asperger's "sufferer" #1486287 or whatever.


#1, :hug:

#2, Exactly. And it's not suffering, it's just that our minds were wired different. :hug:

:hug: And I agree with your sentiment. *nods*
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:18 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote: :hug: Oh well, I'm okay with not getting a definite answer to that one. :lol:

Why is someone possibly liking my wife?


I'm unsure as to why people are making the guesses they make. I just posted an off-hand comment 4 hours ago and it winds up a big thing.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:18 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:
#1, :hug:

#2, Exactly. And it's not suffering, it's just that our minds were wired different. :hug:

:hug: And I agree with your sentiment. *nods*


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Postby The Realm of God » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm

H-Alba wrote:
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Perhaps I don't want to be 'freed from my English overlords' I am happy with the UK.

At leest that's better than salmond's ceilidh. they arenae, th' rabid type ay nationalist.

It might just be that I grew up speaking Gaelic, with both my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc being native Gaelic speakers that I detest English, both the language and its government. I really don't mean offense, but as someone who did grow up speaking Gaelic, I have heard stories from my parents, and grandparents, their parents (etc) about the racism against the Gaels by both the Lowland Scots and the English, and anyone in the UK can see the same views about the Highlanders and Gaels in particular are still espoused today, that have their origins from the Highland clearances. I have heard the term teuchter used more than once as an insult, not jokingly. Racism against the Gaels still exists today. While I don't think independence solves that, it is a step in the right direction seperating us from the reason why an ethno-linguistic group still sees racist thoughts to this day.


I am also a highlander but my veiw is that the whole UK should work together to help each other overcome these issues. Rather than reverse what 400 years of people have worked so hard to achieve.
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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm

Cill Airne wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:Scotland and England actually wound up fused because they shared a monarch from 1603. Not that England didn't try the imperialistic route for hundreds of years before that, but it was, in the end, because Lizzy never got laid. :p

I'm pretty sure she did, she just never had any legitimate children. Also, even if the Stuarts had a Scottish origin, after the first few they were no different than any English monarch in the past.

James IV was, as I recall, the last Scottish monarch to speak Gaelic at all. Whether it was Scots or English his immediate successors spoke I don't know, but whichever it was, Gaelic it was not.

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Postby Lackadaisical Hopes » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote: :hug: Oh well, I'm okay with not getting a definite answer to that one. :lol:

Why is someone possibly liking my wife?

Cos she's sexy.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Why is someone possibly liking my wife?


I'm unsure as to why people are making the guesses they make. I just posted an off-hand comment 4 hours ago and it winds up a big thing.

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Postby Noobubersland » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm

The Realm of God wrote:
Noobubersland wrote:Did I really just read about Scotland being acquired by imperialism? :rofl:


I know I find the SNP, questionable at best.

Scotland has more domestic power then England!
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:20 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
I'm unsure as to why people are making the guesses they make. I just posted an off-hand comment 4 hours ago and it winds up a big thing.

Because this is TET... We're all nosy...

:lol:
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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:21 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote: :hug: Oh well, I'm okay with not getting a definite answer to that one. :lol:

:hug:

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Coffee Cakes wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote: :hug: And I agree with your sentiment. *nods*


:hug:

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Lackadaisical2 wrote:Why is someone possibly liking my wife?

I'm unsure as to why people are making the guesses they make. I just posted an off-hand comment 4 hours ago and it winds up a big thing.

You're the one who said that you fell in like with someone who may or may not be on NS. :P
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:21 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Why is someone possibly liking my wife?


I'm unsure as to why people are making the guesses they make. I just posted an off-hand comment 4 hours ago and it winds up a big thing.

Well hands off, mister. She can only sleep with other people if I get to watch too.

I spent a good 20 minutes asking her to be my wife, and I'm not just going to give her up easy. :P

On a related note: Oingo Boingo. I wish my nieces would stop getting older, so it'd be less weird when I ogle teens, in like... 8 years I won't be able to like anyone anymore.
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Postby Alexlantis » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:21 pm

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Alexlantis wrote:I'm on anti-psychotics, but the doctors are sure that my condition was temporary, so they're gonna slowly wean me off my meds and if anything weird happens I should call them.

Yes you can't just stop antipsychotics. Which one?

Well, what ended up working was Abilify, shockingly enough. Not really an anti-psychotic, but it functioned as one, and functioned rather well. Different meds do different things for different people.

Luckily, they didn't get me on any old-school anti-psychotics. At the time I was quite afraid of the side effects and of becoming a zombie, among other things.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:22 pm

Lackadaisical Hopes wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Why is someone possibly liking my wife?

Cos she's sexy.

She has a bevy of attractive attributes, her looks only being the first noticed... well, in person anyway.
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Postby Astrolinium » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:22 pm

Alexlantis wrote:
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**shrug**

I think national pride and patriotism are extremely useful tools for creating a national economy which is competitive in the global marketplace, especially if the economy is socialist in nature, as that naturally aims to reduce competition within the nation.

That is only if there's Socialism in One Country, as set forth by Stalin. If there's global revolution, then nationalism has no value.


Well, why do we want global revolution? I would like to see a bunch of socialist nations, because government usual works better at a more local level. And I want the people to be unafraid to have pride in their nations and their forebears. I want this pride to drive them to be more productive citizens and to create great works.
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Postby Yuktova » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:22 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Alexlantis wrote:It divides people over something which is pointless, it caused the huge death toll of WWI, and it caused fascism to become popular in the post-WWI world. Plus, it assumes that one person's nation is superior to another's.

Why should it matter if someone is French or German or American or British? Why create policies that put another nation down? All you're really doing is putting other people down.

We shouldn't be bickering over imaginary borders enforced by guns and imaginary loyalties enforced by mass agreement. We should be working together to provide freedom and prosperity for all people.


**shrug**

I think national pride and patriotism are extremely useful tools for creating a national economy which is competitive in the global marketplace, especially if the economy is socialist in nature, as that naturally aims to reduce competition within the nation.

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Postby Cill Airne » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:23 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:I'm pretty sure she did, she just never had any legitimate children. Also, even if the Stuarts had a Scottish origin, after the first few they were no different than any English monarch in the past.

James IV was, as I recall, the last Scottish monarch to speak Gaelic at all. Whether it was Scots or English his immediate successors spoke I don't know, but whichever it was, Gaelic it was not.

I didn't state that when they stopped speaking Gaelic, but after a few of the Stuart Monarchs, they began to be born in England, raised in England, and began to favour the English over the Scottish. Even if they spoke English within Scotland, they were still treating the Scottish better off.
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