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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:11 pm

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Minnas wrote:You were the one who turned the offer down because of your infatuation with your Spanish pet, why should anyone else follow suit?


More likely, he turned down the offer because internet stalking just screams desperate.


That is none of your business. He's infatuated with that woman, and she's so meek it's nauseating. But we're not here to discuss that.


You raised the issue.

You're right, it's not my business... and I wish you'd never made it anyone's business, to be honest... first the constant following Nanatsu from thread to thread, then the nauseating fawning over Gallo... I could have done without it.
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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Dyakovo » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:12 pm

Minnas wrote:But the morals taught to me by both my religion and my family call me to answer that duty. No, I'm not wrong.

So why haven't you answered that duty yet? The fact that you apparently propositioned Darth Elmo hints that you have reached puberty, so your evasion of "I'm underage" is obviously crap.
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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Minnas » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:12 pm

Phenia wrote:I've taken a wrong step somewhere and wound up at Disney Drama TV.

Guess that's the end of the debate eh.


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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:13 pm

Phenia wrote:
Minnas wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:More likely, he turned down the offer because internet stalking just screams desperate.


That is none of your business. He's infatuated with that woman, and she's so meek it's nauseating. But we're not here to discuss that.


I've taken a wrong step somewhere and wound up at Disney Drama TV.

Guess that's the end of the debate eh.


Ehhh... Minnas' arguments weren't anything even SHE was willign to believe, once put to the question - so, no real loss.
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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Minnas » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:14 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:You raised the issue.

You're right, it's not my business... and I wish you'd never made it anyone's business, to be honest... first the constant following Nanatsu from thread to thread, then the nauseating fawning over Gallo... I could have done without it.


You brought it up and stuck your nose in it. You chose to add to the subject, if you waste your time that's not my problem.
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Postby Redwulf » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:14 pm

Phenia wrote:I've taken a wrong step somewhere and wound up at Disney Drama TV.

Guess that's the end of the debate eh.


Disney drama? This sounds more like Fatal Attraction . . .
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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Phenia » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:15 pm

Minnas wrote:
Phenia wrote:I've taken a wrong step somewhere and wound up at Disney Drama TV.

Guess that's the end of the debate eh.


You're still here? Didn't you see I don't care about what you may have to say, even if you think so much of yourself to think it's enlightening.


Yeah if I tore the shit out of my own argument, I'd pretend not to notice it too. Though I like to think I'd come up with a better retort than this sorry-ass pile of internet emo BS.

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Postby Chumblywumbly » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:15 pm

Minnas wrote:
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Minnas wrote:I make this bold statement because my religion has taught it to me. Are you implying that my beliefs are wrong because you don't share them?

I'm saying that you're wrong, not implying it.

Moreover, I recall no direct commandment of the Christian god that states one has a moral duty to face the consequences of one's mistakes. Indeed, if Christ died for our sins so that we might go to heaven, it would seem that we explicitly don't face the consequences.


But the morals taught to me by both my religion and my family call me to answer that duty. No, I'm not wrong.

If you'd care to present a moral and/or theological argument, rather than re-state your supposed correctness, I would happily debate with you.
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Postby Minnas » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:15 pm

Phenia wrote:
Minnas wrote:
Phenia wrote:I've taken a wrong step somewhere and wound up at Disney Drama TV.

Guess that's the end of the debate eh.


You're still here? Didn't you see I don't care about what you may have to say, even if you think so much of yourself to think it's enlightening.


Yeah if I tore the shit out of my own argument, I'd pretend not to notice it too. Though I like to think I'd come up with a better retort than this sorry-ass pile of internet emo BS.


You can, you know, wait for it... wait for it... not post. -gasps-
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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:16 pm

Minnas wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:You raised the issue.

You're right, it's not my business... and I wish you'd never made it anyone's business, to be honest... first the constant following Nanatsu from thread to thread, then the nauseating fawning over Gallo... I could have done without it.


You brought it up and stuck your nose in it. You chose to add to the subject, if you waste your time that's not my problem.


Let me quote you (to Gallo) "You were the one who turned the offer down because of your infatuation with your Spanish pet".

You raised it.

Run along, now, little girl.
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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Minnas » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:17 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Minnas wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:You raised the issue.

You're right, it's not my business... and I wish you'd never made it anyone's business, to be honest... first the constant following Nanatsu from thread to thread, then the nauseating fawning over Gallo... I could have done without it.


You brought it up and stuck your nose in it. You chose to add to the subject, if you waste your time that's not my problem.


Let me quote you (to Gallo) "You were the one who turned the offer down because of your infatuation with your Spanish pet".

You raised it.

Run along, now, little girl.


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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:17 pm

Phenia wrote:
Minnas wrote:You're still here? Didn't you see I don't care about what you may have to say, even if you think so much of yourself to think it's enlightening.


Yeah if I tore the shit out of my own argument, I'd pretend not to notice it too. Though I like to think I'd come up with a better retort than this sorry-ass pile of internet emo BS.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:18 pm

Minnas wrote:You're so funny and righteous... not.


You still haven't managed to either answer my points, or recant your argument. You're hardly in the position of authority here.
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Postby Concurria » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:18 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Minnas wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:You raised the issue.

You're right, it's not my business... and I wish you'd never made it anyone's business, to be honest... first the constant following Nanatsu from thread to thread, then the nauseating fawning over Gallo... I could have done without it.


You brought it up and stuck your nose in it. You chose to add to the subject, if you waste your time that's not my problem.


Let me quote you (to Gallo) "You were the one who turned the offer down because of your infatuation with your Spanish pet".

You raised it.

Run along, now, little girl.


Did someone bring up that they love their pet more than people and that if given the choice they'd say good ole' Riley as opposed to Mr. Smith next door?

I really have great distaste for those people.
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Postby Chumblywumbly » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:18 pm

Now, now, children.

Let's play nice.
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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Phenia » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:18 pm

Minnas wrote:
You can, you know, wait for it... wait for it... not post. -gasps-


True! I could. Or, you know, I could post if I feel like it, and you could ignore the argument as your only defense and piss all over the place with your inane pre-teen spamdrama.

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Postby Redwulf » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:20 pm

Concurria wrote:Did someone bring up that they love their pet more than people and that if given the choice they'd say good ole' Riley as opposed to Mr. Smith next door?

I really have great distaste for those people.


The "Spanish pet" in question is a person . . .
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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Minnas » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:22 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Minnas wrote:You're so funny and righteous... not.


You still haven't managed to either answer my points, or recant your argument. You're hardly in the position of authority here.


But you are?
You're arguing that I am mistaken in something I was taught and that I hold because it's the way I was brought up. The sole reason you do this is because you disagree with it. I can understand that. I, however, do not need to tolerate my own views being insulted by you or anyone by the simple reason that someone on the internet disagrees with me. I'm not wrong in thinking this and you're just pretentious posters who think everyone needs to think the same as you, and if they don't, they're infantile and their points of view do not matter. I keep seeing this, all over the forum.

I refuse to be part of stupid cliques. I will always post according to the way I was brought up and what I know, even if it's little, of the world around me, as I perceive it. You don't like it, don't debate with me.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:23 pm

I don't normally get in on abortion debates, but I found a flavour of creepy here I did not expect.
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Postby Concurria » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:23 pm

Redwulf wrote:
Concurria wrote:Did someone bring up that they love their pet more than people and that if given the choice they'd say good ole' Riley as opposed to Mr. Smith next door?

I really have great distaste for those people.


The "Spanish pet" in question is a person . . .


Master/Slave relationships? Disgusting.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:24 pm

Concurria wrote:
Redwulf wrote:
Concurria wrote:Did someone bring up that they love their pet more than people and that if given the choice they'd say good ole' Riley as opposed to Mr. Smith next door?

I really have great distaste for those people.


The "Spanish pet" in question is a person . . .


Master/Slave relationships? Disgusting.

Oh lawd, don't say shit like that, it'll start a threadjack.
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Postby Chumblywumbly » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:24 pm

Ifreann wrote:I don't normally get in on abortion debates, but I found a flavour of creepy here I did not expect.

.....oh.

At first glance, I read your post as, "I don't normally get off on abortion debates, but..."
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:25 pm

Chumblywumbly wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't normally get in on abortion debates, but I found a flavour of creepy here I did not expect.

.....oh.

At first glance, I read your post as, "I don't normally get off on abortion debates, but..."

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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Dyakovo » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:27 pm

Minnas wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Minnas wrote:You're so funny and righteous... not.


You still haven't managed to either answer my points, or recant your argument. You're hardly in the position of authority here.


But you are?

Actually, yes he is.

You stated that every women had a moral duty to be a mother and should never shy away from it.
GnI offered to make you a mother, you have shied away from it.

Therefore it is apparent that either a) You don't really believe what you said, or b) do believe it, but think it only applies to other women.

So, which is it?
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Re: Is a fetus a person

Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:27 pm

Minnas wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
You still haven't managed to either answer my points, or recant your argument. You're hardly in the position of authority here.


But you are?
You're arguing that I am mistaken in something I was taught and that I hold because it's the way I was brought up.


No - I'm arguing that you made some nonsensical claims, that you don't even uphold, yourself

That makes you a hypocite.

Worse, you won't admit that those claims were... shall we say, 'ill-advised'?


So... yes. I have the position of authority. My arguments, whether you like them or not, are consistent, logical, and true to my actions.
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