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Good news, I just bought it.

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Postby Indeos » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:19 pm

I have dibs on town sniper.
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:20 pm

Indeos wrote:I have dibs on town sniper.


Cool. You can run our military for when we take over New Zealand
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:20 pm

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For sale - village with pub, 40 people

WELLINGTON (Reuters) – Stressed-out city executives looking to get away from it all have the chance to buy their own rural village in New Zealand, complete with a pub and population of 40.

Otira, a hamlet on the rainy west coast of New Zealand's South Island, is on the market for $NZ1 million ($715,000).

Current owners Bill and Christine Hennah bought the rundown village in 1998 after passing through and "feeling sorry for it," Christchurch-based newspaper The Press reported on Friday.

They paid $NZ80,000 ($56,000) for the hotel or pub, school, railway station, town hall and 18 houses making up the village near the Arthur's Pass National Park that dates back to 1923.

The village developed when the Otira railway tunnel was opened, and during its heyday was home to about 600 workers and their families.

But the couple, now aged in their 60s, say they no longer have the energy to run the hotel. They are asking $NZ350,000 for the hotel or $NZ1 million for the whole lot.

"We need someone to build it up again. There is a lot of potential and opportunity," Christine Hennah told The Press.

(Writing by Belinda Goldsmith, Editing by Dean Goodman)


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So, who wants to start a pool to buy the town? It'd be awesome! :D


sit around in a hotel pub I own and get drunk with the tourist all day, sounds like a retirement plan to me.
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:21 pm

greed and death wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
For sale - village with pub, 40 people

WELLINGTON (Reuters) – Stressed-out city executives looking to get away from it all have the chance to buy their own rural village in New Zealand, complete with a pub and population of 40.

Otira, a hamlet on the rainy west coast of New Zealand's South Island, is on the market for $NZ1 million ($715,000).

Current owners Bill and Christine Hennah bought the rundown village in 1998 after passing through and "feeling sorry for it," Christchurch-based newspaper The Press reported on Friday.

They paid $NZ80,000 ($56,000) for the hotel or pub, school, railway station, town hall and 18 houses making up the village near the Arthur's Pass National Park that dates back to 1923.

The village developed when the Otira railway tunnel was opened, and during its heyday was home to about 600 workers and their families.

But the couple, now aged in their 60s, say they no longer have the energy to run the hotel. They are asking $NZ350,000 for the hotel or $NZ1 million for the whole lot.

"We need someone to build it up again. There is a lot of potential and opportunity," Christine Hennah told The Press.

(Writing by Belinda Goldsmith, Editing by Dean Goodman)


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So, who wants to start a pool to buy the town? It'd be awesome! :D


sit around in a hotel pub I own and get drunk with the tourist all day, sounds like a retirement plan to me.


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Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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Postby The Celestial Union » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:29 pm

Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:I have dibs on town sniper.


Cool. You can run our military for when we take over New Zealand


No,no Just a hunter clearing out the Kiwi Orks and the odd rogue sheep :) No military here. Pay no attention to the man inside the Ghilie suit.
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Postby Indeos » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:35 pm

The Celestial Union wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:I have dibs on town sniper.


Cool. You can run our military for when we take over New Zealand


No,no Just a hunter clearing out the Kiwi Orks and the odd rogue sheep :) No military here. Pay no attention to the man inside the Ghilie suit.


Exactly. I'll be so skilled, and I'll wear a golden ghille suit so people know how awesome I am. And use a golden Deagle instead of a sniper rifle.
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:39 pm

Indeos wrote:
The Celestial Union wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:I have dibs on town sniper.


Cool. You can run our military for when we take over New Zealand


No,no Just a hunter clearing out the Kiwi Orks and the odd rogue sheep :) No military here. Pay no attention to the man inside the Ghilie suit.


Exactly. I'll be so skilled, and I'll wear a golden ghille suit so people know how awesome I am. And use a golden Deagle instead of a sniper rifle.


HEADSHOT!
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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Postby Wilgrove » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:39 pm

Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:
The Celestial Union wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:I have dibs on town sniper.


Cool. You can run our military for when we take over New Zealand


No,no Just a hunter clearing out the Kiwi Orks and the odd rogue sheep :) No military here. Pay no attention to the man inside the Ghilie suit.


Exactly. I'll be so skilled, and I'll wear a golden ghille suit so people know how awesome I am. And use a golden Deagle instead of a sniper rifle.


BOOM HEADSHOT!


Fixed. ;)

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Postby Caninope » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:43 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:
The Celestial Union wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:I have dibs on town sniper.


Cool. You can run our military for when we take over New Zealand


No,no Just a hunter clearing out the Kiwi Orks and the odd rogue sheep :) No military here. Pay no attention to the man inside the Ghilie suit.


Exactly. I'll be so skilled, and I'll wear a golden ghille suit so people know how awesome I am. And use a golden Deagle instead of a sniper rifle.


BOOM HEADSHOT!


Caninope is the awesomest Lord Provost Pirate Ninja Viking Owner I know ;)


Fixed. :)
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Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:55 pm

Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:If Lacky's in, I'll help. Can we use some of the tax money to get an old-style pirate ship?


YES! And we can decide how to run it through NSG!

First things first, Lackey isn't allowed to drink for free in the pub...
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:57 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:If Lacky's in, I'll help. Can we use some of the tax money to get an old-style pirate ship?


YES! And we can decide how to run it through NSG!

First things first, Lackey isn't allowed to drink for free in the pub...


Pure torture. Horrendous. I didn't expect this from you, Dyakovo.

I'm not sure where I stand on it.
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Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:
Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:58 pm

Caninope wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Caninope wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
You can be Duke, I just want to be the town's Sorcer. *nods*

Damn you that's my job!


YOU LIE!

BABY KILLER! Hay wait ... :blink: ... You're not Panzerjaeger!


No but I'm a Republican. :P

I only have room in my old heart to forgive one person for that. :p


Dya likes me, why can't you? :(

You're only allowed one...
I got the assignment. ;)
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:00 pm

Caninope wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:If Lacky's in, I'll help. Can we use some of the tax money to get an old-style pirate ship?


YES! And we can decide how to run it through NSG!

First things first, Lackey isn't allowed to drink for free in the pub...


Pure torture. Horrendous. I didn't expect this from you, Dyakovo.

I'm not sure where I stand on it.

He'd bankrupt us... He's allowed to drink, he just has to pay.
Don't take life so serious... It isn't permanent...
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:00 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Caninope wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
You can be Duke, I just want to be the town's Sorcer. *nods*

Damn you that's my job!


YOU LIE!

BABY KILLER! Hay wait ... :blink: ... You're not Panzerjaeger!


No but I'm a Republican. :P

I only have room in my old heart to forgive one person for that. :p


Dya likes me, why can't you? :(

You're only allowed one...
I got the assignment. ;)

Assignment? You make me sound like a bigger burden than I am!
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
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Postby Indeos » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:01 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:If Lacky's in, I'll help. Can we use some of the tax money to get an old-style pirate ship?


YES! And we can decide how to run it through NSG!

First things first, Lackey isn't allowed to drink for free in the pub...


Pure torture. Horrendous. I didn't expect this from you, Dyakovo.

I'm not sure where I stand on it.

He'd bankrupt us... He's allowed to drink, he just has to pay.


I'll pay for him.
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:01 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:If Lacky's in, I'll help. Can we use some of the tax money to get an old-style pirate ship?


YES! And we can decide how to run it through NSG!

First things first, Lackey isn't allowed to drink for free in the pub...


Pure torture. Horrendous. I didn't expect this from you, Dyakovo.

I'm not sure where I stand on it.

He'd bankrupt us... He's allowed to drink, he just has to pay.

I like it because it's torture, but hate it because it targets Lacky.
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Frisivisia wrote:
Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

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Postby Consaria » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:05 pm

I'll chip in, but I want to be Secretary of embezzlement the Treasury.
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Postby Lacadaemon » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:23 pm

Galloism wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Caninope wrote:
Indeos wrote:If Lacky's in, I'll help. Can we use some of the tax money to get an old-style pirate ship?


YES! And we can decide how to run it through NSG!


Oh God... ok this is starting to turn into a bad idea....


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Sib: Get rid of all the taxes! The economy will do better!
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Don't worry, I gather this place is in Canterbury. They tend to not put up with people who can complete whole sentences. (Sorry Cat tribe).
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:20 pm

Consaria wrote:I'll chip in, but I want to be Secretary of embezzlement the Treasury.


You wouldn't rather kill people?
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Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:30 pm

Holy freaking shit, I just had an IDEA.


MAX!!!
MAX BARRY!!!!
Your a rich author. Buy NSG that village and run it like one of your books.
Then we NSGers can like have our get togethers there and stuff.
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:36 pm

greed and death wrote:Holy freaking shit, I just had an IDEA.


MAX!!!
MAX BARRY!!!!
Your a rich author. Buy NSG that village and run it like one of your books.
Then we NSGers can like have our get togethers there and stuff.


You made one fundamentally mistake. Why would an Ozzie buy land in New Zealand?
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Frisivisia wrote:
Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.

Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.

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Postby Cameroi » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:38 pm

greed and death wrote:Holy freaking shit, I just had an IDEA.


MAX!!!
MAX BARRY!!!!
Your a rich author. Buy NSG that village and run it like one of your books.
Then we NSGers can like have our get togethers there and stuff.


while i don't know mr barry personally, from my contact with others,
i believe i can safely say, that with very few exceptions, author = rich, is something of a fantasy.

(he's also probably damd near broke from keeping this place going, just as a guess)
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