'Manspreading chair' and men's boundaries

[Katganistan]

That picture, and I am being honest, but that picture is a bit of an exaggeration. Most of us spread, yes, but not THAT much.

Again, context is important. You could say that he took two seats during rush hour, but how about the opposite where maybe he is doing it because it's a rather empty and free train with not a lot of people looking for a seat?

You see the people sitting on either side of him, yes?
And again, did not say ALL or MOST at all. But some.

[Katganistan]

Oh, the stock photo again....

So much proofs.

Didn't someone already completely debunk this photo as being deliberate as part of some photo series or something?

Where?

[Scomagia]

Didn't someone already completely debunk this photo as being deliberate as part of some photo series or something?

Where?

https://i.imgur.com/Rip2Unt.jpg

Something about that photo looked odd, so I looked it up on google image search, and it seems it's a stock photo. Part of a whole series where that same group of people do things that inconvenience other subway users.
There's some great titles for the pictures: That particular pic is "Women Crowded by Manspreading on Subway", but there's also "People Reading Show-off Books on Subway", "Woman Texting at Top of Subway Stairs While Others Try to Exit", "Man Hogging Subway Pole", "Pregnant Woman Stands on Subway While People Sit and Play with Phones", "Man Playing Sudoku on Subway While Women Look Over His Shoulder", "Woman Looking for MetroCard and Blocking Turnstile While People Wait to Enter".

The best title in the album of stock photos has to be "Something Dripping from Above and It’s Not Rain" for sheer horror value, lol.

[Highever]

Didn't someone already completely debunk this photo as being deliberate as part of some photo series or something?

Where?

https://i.imgur.com/Rip2Unt.jpg

Something about that photo looked odd, so I looked it up on google image search, and it seems it's a stock photo. Part of a whole series where that same group of people do things that inconvenience other subway users.
There's some great titles for the pictures: That particular pic is "Women Crowded by Manspreading on Subway", but there's also "People Reading Show-off Books on Subway", "Woman Texting at Top of Subway Stairs While Others Try to Exit", "Man Hogging Subway Pole", "Pregnant Woman Stands on Subway While People Sit and Play with Phones", "Man Playing Sudoku on Subway While Women Look Over His Shoulder", "Woman Looking for MetroCard and Blocking Turnstile While People Wait to Enter".

The best title in the album of stock photos has to be "Something Dripping from Above and It’s Not Rain" for sheer horror value, lol.

[Highever]

That picture, and I am being honest, but that picture is a bit of an exaggeration. Most of us spread, yes, but not THAT much.

Again, context is important. You could say that he took two seats during rush hour, but how about the opposite where maybe he is doing it because it's a rather empty and free train with not a lot of people looking for a seat?

You see the people sitting on either side of him, yes?
And again, did not say ALL or MOST at all. But some.

So in other words it is a non-issue.

[Valentine Z]

That picture, and I am being honest, but that picture is a bit of an exaggeration. Most of us spread, yes, but not THAT much.

Again, context is important. You could say that he took two seats during rush hour, but how about the opposite where maybe he is doing it because it's a rather empty and free train with not a lot of people looking for a seat?

You see the people sitting on either side of him, yes?
And again, did not say ALL or MOST at all. But some.

Yeah... but they are all sitting separately from him, then again, context is always important. We will never know whether he's being selfish or not unless we have more information to reach a conclusion. Tineye doesn't really reveal much other than being used as a posterboy for arguments regarding manspreading on Twitter, Reddit, amongst many others.

[Katganistan]

I suggest you go back and look at the pictures. That was precisely the point, that they were taking up that much space.

Again. No one is saying that there are not a few assholes out there that do in fact this (despite the fact you are using a deliberately posed photo as proof repeatedly). But seeing as how it is not some sort of widespread issue, what is your point?

The one you have missed repeatedly, apparently.
Be courteous and don't take up multiple seats on a crowded public transport?

And yes. Yes, if they are making laws against it in Spain, and in the UK, and fined people in the NYC subway over it, and an artist and activist (who I state is committing assault) in Russia is throwing bleach and water on practitioners then yes: being on three separate continents suggests a widespread issue.

The links are all upthread, and none of them mine. So yes, this is a problem on three continents.

[Kaztropol]

Oh, the stock photo again....
So much proofs.

Didn't someone already completely debunk this photo as being deliberate as part of some photo series or something?

No.

[Katganistan]

If you feel I have broken any rules, please link to it in moderation and ask that it be reviewed rather than, once again, attacking me and not what I've written.

Well, the rules are a little different for you now, aren't they?

And I wasn't attacking you. I was attacking the substance of your writing. It's clear as day, babe. Not hard to understand. Your posts are ridiculously hostile and then you project that hostility onto others.

Report them. The rules are not any different for me.

[Katganistan]

LOL, great pun.

..I swear to god I didn’t intend that one.

Still a good one, though.

[Scomagia]

Again. No one is saying that there are not a few assholes out there that do in fact this (despite the fact you are using a deliberately posed photo as proof repeatedly). But seeing as how it is not some sort of widespread issue, what is your point?

The one you have missed repeatedly, apparently.
Be courteous and don't take up multiple seats on a crowded public transport?

And yes. Yes, if they are making laws against it in Spain, and in the UK, and fined people in the NYC subway over it, and an artist and activist (who I state is committing assault) in Russia is throwing bleach and water on practitioners then yes: being on three separate continents suggests a widespread issue.

The links are all upthread, and none of them mine. So yes, this is a problem on three continents.

Nope. People making laws about a thing does not actually indicate the prevalence of that thing.

See: Tide Pods, planking, and so on.

[Skarten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjedLeVGcfE

[Saint Arsenio]

Again. No one is saying that there are not a few assholes out there that do in fact this (despite the fact you are using a deliberately posed photo as proof repeatedly). But seeing as how it is not some sort of widespread issue, what is your point?

The one you have missed repeatedly, apparently.
Be courteous and don't take up multiple seats on a crowded public transport?

And yes. Yes, if they are making laws against it in Spain, and in the UK, and fined people in the NYC subway over it, and an artist and activist (who I state is committing assault) in Russia is throwing bleach and water on practitioners then yes: being on three separate continents suggests a widespread issue.

The links are all upthread, and none of them mine. So yes, this is a problem on three continents.

These are countries and Cities, though.

[Highever]

Again. No one is saying that there are not a few assholes out there that do in fact this (despite the fact you are using a deliberately posed photo as proof repeatedly). But seeing as how it is not some sort of widespread issue, what is your point?

The one you have missed repeatedly, apparently.
Be courteous and don't take up multiple seats on a crowded public transport?

And yes. Yes, if they are making laws against it in Spain, and in the UK, and fined people in the NYC subway over it, and an artist and activist (who I state is committing assault) in Russia is throwing bleach and water on practitioners then yes: being on three separate continents suggests a widespread issue.

The links are all upthread, and none of them mine. So yes, this is a problem on three continents.

That really does nothing to somehow explain how it is a major issue just because there is a law about it. I guess Arizona has a big problem with people feeding pigs without permits now.

[Estanglia]

Again. No one is saying that there are not a few assholes out there that do in fact this (despite the fact you are using a deliberately posed photo as proof repeatedly). But seeing as how it is not some sort of widespread issue, what is your point?

The one you have missed repeatedly, apparently.
Be courteous and don't take up multiple seats on a crowded public transport?

And yes. Yes, if they are making laws against it in Spain, and in the UK, and fined people in the NYC subway over it, and an artist and activist (who I state is committing assault) in Russia is throwing bleach and water on practitioners then yes: being on three separate continents suggests a widespread issue.

The links are all upthread, and none of them mine. So yes, this is a problem on three continents.

Countries and areas treating it as a problem doesn't necessarily mean it is actually a problem.

[Scomagia]

Well, the rules are a little different for you now, aren't they?

And I wasn't attacking you. I was attacking the substance of your writing. It's clear as day, babe. Not hard to understand. Your posts are ridiculously hostile and then you project that hostility onto others.

Report them. The rules are not any different for me.

Nah. If I wanted to engage in a pointless activity with no satisfactory resolution, I'd go to the titty bar.

[Katganistan]

Again, did I say MOST?
You seem to keep arguing about your PERCEPTION of what I said, not what I ACTUALLY did.

Did I say you said MOST?

Then did you mean by saying the above? It seems to say, "well, one or two people don't define everyone!"

Which -- I have never said it's everyone.
So why protest "not all men!" when the context has never BEEN "all men" or even "most men"?

[Dumb Ideologies]

An awful lot of gravy being made from those stock photos

[Katganistan]

Yes.

Truly incredible.

And again, no one linked to anything debunking it as far as I am aware. If it is just a stock shot of course that would change the context.

[Saint Arsenio]

Did I say you said MOST?

Then did you mean by saying the above? It seems to say, "well, one or two people don't define everyone!"

Which -- I have never said it's everyone.
So why protest "not all men!" when the context has never BEEN "all men" or even "most men"?

You seem to think it's a huge problem, so I assumed you had a problem with all men doing it.

[Highever]

Truly incredible.

And again, no one linked to anything debunking it as far as I am aware. If it is just a stock shot of course that would change the context.

Both me and Sco quoted the post in question in succession of one another

[Katganistan]

Oh, the stock photo again....

So much proofs.

Please link to the place this stock photo comes from? When I googled it, it didn't have anything that mentioned it was a stock photo.

I'll remove the photo linked, but it is NOT the photo in this post.
Perhaps you should have checked before saying it was staged.

Actually, rather than remove it, I labeled it as stock and said I was unaware when I posted it.

[Saint Arsenio]

Feminists claim that women should "take up space" while reprimanding men for doing so, when it's not even taking up that much extra. Sitting with my legs closed as a woman is very painful and I will sit however I damn please. Men should be able to sit however's comfortable for them.

Sitting with legs closed is very uncomfortable for me too, as a man.

Sometimes it is for me, too.

[Estanglia]

And again, no one linked to anything debunking it as far as I am aware. If it is just a stock shot of course that would change the context.

Both me and Sco quoted the post in question in succession of one another

I think that post was debunking a different photo, not the one Kat is talking about now.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Imagine trusting random photos you just googled without checking the context.