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Postby Ism » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:41 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:
San Lumen wrote:calling Jews disloyal is exactly what Hitler said though


Jews are not exactly nazi Germany’s only victims, you know.


True, but that's not exactly relevant.

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Postby Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:43 am

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Loben The 2nd wrote:Still cringey as hell. Then again at least you’re not comparing him to hitler.

calling Jews disloyal is exactly what Hitler said though


Hitler also drank water...
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:48 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:calling Jews disloyal is exactly what Hitler said though


Hitler also drank water...

Oh fuck off, Hitler committed the largest genocide in history, so if you don’t know how this is relevant then you might as well not contribute at all.
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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Hitler also drank water...

Oh fuck off, Hitler committed the largest genocide in history, so if you don’t know how this is relevant then you might as well not contribute at all.


It isn't relevant, despite Lumen's Stretch Armstrong routine desperately trying to make it so.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:51 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Hitler also drank water...

Oh fuck off, Hitler committed the largest genocide in history, so if you don’t know how this is relevant then you might as well not contribute at all.

Did you know hitler also a vegetarian?
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:57 am

Telconi wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Oh fuck off, Hitler committed the largest genocide in history, so if you don’t know how this is relevant then you might as well not contribute at all.


It isn't relevant, despite Lumen's Stretch Armstrong routine desperately trying to make it so.

It absolutely is. Hitler said literally the same thing so how is not relevant?

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Postby Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:03 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It isn't relevant, despite Lumen's Stretch Armstrong routine desperately trying to make it so.

It absolutely is. Hitler said literally the same thing so how is not relevant?


Really, Hitler said that Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Israel? Amazing, especially given that at no point in Hitler's life was there an Israel...
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Postby Galloism » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:06 am

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Dresderstan wrote:Because politicians can't have a sense of humor like everyone else. :roll:

The idea of buying Greenland was a joke until it wasn't, and became an international incident.

Trump, as an individual, does not have a sense of humor. But then again, he has no empathy, and that makes humor difficult.

Presidents can have humor, but they also have to be aware of the position they hold. Usually, they take care not to damage the standing and credibility of the presidency. Trump has no such limitations, and that has led to both the position and the US not being taken seriously anymore.

Ironically perhaps, this isn't the first time we've tried to buy Greenland.
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Postby North German Realm » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:07 am

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Gravlen wrote:The idea of buying Greenland was a joke until it wasn't, and became an international incident.

Trump, as an individual, does not have a sense of humor. But then again, he has no empathy, and that makes humor difficult.

Presidents can have humor, but they also have to be aware of the position they hold. Usually, they take care not to damage the standing and credibility of the presidency. Trump has no such limitations, and that has led to both the position and the US not being taken seriously anymore.

Ironically perhaps, this isn't the first time we've tried to buy Greenland.

It's the first time Denmark's refusal to sell it has put the fucking President into a tantrum.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:07 am

North German Realm wrote:
Galloism wrote:Ironically perhaps, this isn't the first time we've tried to buy Greenland.

It's the first time Denmark's refusal to sell it has put the fucking President into a tantrum.

True.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:08 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:It absolutely is. Hitler said literally the same thing so how is not relevant?


Really, Hitler said that Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Israel? Amazing, especially given that at no point in Hitler's life was there an Israel...


No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.

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Postby North German Realm » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:10 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Really, Hitler said that Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Israel? Amazing, especially given that at no point in Hitler's life was there an Israel...


No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.

The thing is, Trump didn't say that. He said Jews "that vote democrat" (which is, at this point, specifically against the interests of the current Israeli government) are disloyal to Israel and therefore to America, which is Israel's primary ally. His logic isn't sound (and his statement is stupid), but it's on a whole different realm of existence than the Stab in the Back myth.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:11 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Really, Hitler said that Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Israel? Amazing, especially given that at no point in Hitler's life was there an Israel...


No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.

And the usual suspects don't care about that, they're just going to argue about it to waste your time and to laugh at you getting emotionally invested in the argument.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:13 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Really, Hitler said that Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Israel? Amazing, especially given that at no point in Hitler's life was there an Israel...


No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.


Oh, so when you said it was literally the same you were lying? Or alternatively, the correct usage of the word "literally" isn't part of your working vocabulary.

Also, it isn't the same at all, or even similar. Because of the all important qualifier here. He isn't talking about Jews as an intrinsic category, he's talking about Jews who vote Democrat.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:16 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.


Oh, so when you said it was literally the same you were lying? Or alternatively, the correct usage of the word "literally" isn't part of your working vocabulary.

Also, it isn't the same at all, or even similar. Because of the all important qualifier here. He isn't talking about Jews as an intrinsic category, he's talking about Jews who vote Democrat.

and called them disloyal to Israel and therefore America. What is so hard to understand? Its a anti semitic trope that goes back to Haman

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Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.

And the usual suspects don't care about that, they're just going to argue about it to waste your time and to laugh at you getting emotionally invested in the argument.


It isn't wrong to ridicule the ridiculous.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:19 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Oh, so when you said it was literally the same you were lying? Or alternatively, the correct usage of the word "literally" isn't part of your working vocabulary.

Also, it isn't the same at all, or even similar. Because of the all important qualifier here. He isn't talking about Jews as an intrinsic category, he's talking about Jews who vote Democrat.

and called them disloyal to Israel and therefore America. What is so hard to understand? Its a anti semitic trope that goes back to Haman


If I said "All Jews who rob stores are robbers." Is that Anti-Semitic? Of course not, they're robbers because they rob stores, not because they're Jewish.

Likewise, in Trump's statement, they're disloyal because they vote Democrat, not because they're Jewish.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:21 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:and called them disloyal to Israel and therefore America. What is so hard to understand? Its a anti semitic trope that goes back to Haman


If I said "All Jews who rob stores are robbers." Is that Anti-Semitic? Of course not, they're robbers because they rob stores, not because they're Jewish.

Likewise, in Trump's statement, they're disloyal because they vote Democrat, not because they're Jewish.

It is very similar to what Hitler said. You can spin it all you want. Jewish groups in the US have condemned his comments even Netanyahu said they were wrong

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San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
If I said "All Jews who rob stores are robbers." Is that Anti-Semitic? Of course not, they're robbers because they rob stores, not because they're Jewish.

Likewise, in Trump's statement, they're disloyal because they vote Democrat, not because they're Jewish.

It is very similar to what Hitler said. You can spin it all you want. Jewish groups in the US have condemned his comments even Netanyahu said they were wrong


It isn't. And you repeating it doesn't make it true.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:24 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:It is very similar to what Hitler said. You can spin it all you want. Jewish groups in the US have condemned his comments even Netanyahu said they were wrong


It isn't. And you repeating it doesn't make it true.

Yeah those Jewish groups and the Prime Minister condemned his comments for no reason

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San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It isn't. And you repeating it doesn't make it true.

Yeah those Jewish groups and the Prime Minister condemned his comments for no reason


Condemning a person's comments doesn't make them Hitler.
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Buying Greenland isn't a bad idea, but it would add to the debt. I'd be all for it if the money was donated. We could create skilled labor and intellectual job sites for military purposes and open up immigration opportunities. It's clear that Trump didn't think this up alone, but the idea has merit and even he recognizes. It would be almost as good a save as Alaska if a good price could be negotiated. Greenland is smaller than a medium sized city and they aren't using it to do anything. Why not sell it?
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GLDF wrote:Buying Greenland isn't a bad idea, but it would add to the debt. I'd be all for it if the money was donated. We could create skilled labor and intellectual job sites for military purposes and open up immigration opportunities. It's clear that Trump didn't think this up alone, but the idea has merit and even he recognizes. It would be almost as good a save as Alaska if a good price could be negotiated. Greenland is smaller than a medium sized city and they aren't using it to do anything. Why not sell it?


Because, once again, the people don't want it sold. There may only be 56,000 people on the island, but other countries have fought wars over smaller land with much fewer people on them. The people's wishes shouldn't be ignored for a land and mineral grabbing scheme that's meant to inflate Trump's ego.
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Postby North German Realm » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:33 am

GLDF wrote:Buying Greenland isn't a bad idea, but it would add to the debt. I'd be all for it if the money was donated. We could create skilled labor and intellectual job sites for military purposes and open up immigration opportunities. It's clear that Trump didn't think this up alone, but the idea has merit and even he recognizes. It would be almost as good a save as Alaska if a good price could be negotiated. Greenland is smaller than a medium sized city and they aren't using it to do anything. Why not sell it?

The colonialist mentality is just strong in some Americans isn't it?
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Postby GLDF » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:45 am

Shrillland wrote:
GLDF wrote:Buying Greenland isn't a bad idea, but it would add to the debt. I'd be all for it if the money was donated. We could create skilled labor and intellectual job sites for military purposes and open up immigration opportunities. It's clear that Trump didn't think this up alone, but the idea has merit and even he recognizes. It would be almost as good a save as Alaska if a good price could be negotiated. Greenland is smaller than a medium sized city and they aren't using it to do anything. Why not sell it?


Because, once again, the people don't want it sold. There may only be 56,000 people on the island, but other countries have fought wars over smaller land with much fewer people on them. The people's wishes shouldn't be ignored for a land and mineral grabbing scheme that's meant to inflate Trump's ego.

Greenland is very important. It is a good middle point and serves the potential for many strategic decisions, as well as economic prosperity. They haven't put it to use and they're military is weak enough that it would be a freebie for invaders. Their language and currency problems are absurd clings to tradition.

If someone successfully organized an area 51 style event, we could probably take them all on with our militia (even if only a few showed up) Finding enough supplies in Greenland would literally be the only issue. It's that pathetic. With all that value, nothing is being done to protect or use Greenland. The Russians could be in Nuuk within a day and have a great advantage over NATO.

Edit: I'm not telling anyone to take up arms and invade Greenland. You might be able to, but it's not a great idea.
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