Germany Rules BDS movement as Anti-Semitic

[Conserative Morality]

Not every human rights organisation can be Amnesty, some have to focus on specific places and issues. That should be pretty obvious, no?

If you ever call out Israel, it's anti-semitism. Them's the rules. The fact that it's absurd on its face to use such whataboutisms in any other situation, like criticizing America or China, is irrelevant.

[Scomagia]

No but when large parts of your movement accuse Israel of genocide when that is objectively not happening, it does seem to verge into "those evil Jews!" territory.

Maybe not full scale genocide but open ethnic cleansing is a rather accurate description.

No, it isn't.

[Scomagia]

Not every human rights organisation can be Amnesty, some have to focus on specific places and issues. That should be pretty obvious, no?

If you ever call out Israel, it's anti-semitism. Them's the rules. The fact that it's absurd on its face to use such whataboutisms in any other situation, like criticizing America or China, is irrelevant.

Quit with the strawman bullshit. It's beyond pathetic.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Maybe not full scale genocide but open ethnic cleansing is a rather accurate description.

No, it isn't.

TIL there hasn't been a mass expulsion of Palestinians

[Sanctum and Ultima]

No, it isn't.

TIL there hasn't been a mass expulsion of Palestinians

Yeah. Israel, you have become the very thing that you swore to destroy.

[Scomagia]

No, it isn't.

TIL there hasn't been a mass expulsion of Palestinians

TIL that Arabs, included self identified Palestinians, don't make up a fucking fifth of Israel's population.

[Emazia]

Hey they are the greatest ally ^^

Yes, I too believe that the greatest action an ally can take is selling our military secrets to China.

We already had enough of that here with Gavin Williamson.

[Washington Resistance Army]

TIL there hasn't been a mass expulsion of Palestinians

TIL that Arabs, included self identified Palestinians, don't make up a fucking fifth of Israel's population.

They were a lot more than a fifth of the regions population in 1949.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

Remember kids, if you don't support Israel unconditionally, that's antisemitism. =^^)

It’s not antisemitic to oppose Israel, it is antisemitic to oppose Jews

Guess what BDS opposes?

So you're arguing that a boycott of products made in the People's Republic of China to protest that government's treatment of Uighurs and Tibetans is inherently racist against Chinese people.

(Image)

Uh, no. You're literally making the claim that boycotting Israel (despite the fact that many Jewish people support said boycott) is inherently anti-Semitic. That's not a straw man, that's what you said. How are the cases different?

Repeating your statement over and over isn't actually proving it. It's just yelling. Many Jewish people support BDS. They don't argue for the total destruction of Israel nor the oppression of Jews, and they don't use anti-Semitic arguments or memes to get their point across. Therefore (despite some of the vile comments in this thread from actual anti-Semites) BDS is not inherently anti-Semitic.

QED.

[Sanctum and Ultima]

It’s not antisemitic to oppose Israel, it is antisemitic to oppose Jews

Guess what BDS opposes?

Uh, no. You're literally making the claim that boycotting Israel (despite the fact that many Jewish people support said boycott) is inherently anti-Semitic. That's not a straw man, that's what you said. How are the cases different?

Repeating your statement over and over isn't actually proving it. It's just yelling. Many Jewish people support BDS. They don't argue for the total destruction of Israel nor the oppression of Jews, and they don't use anti-Semitic arguments or memes to get their point across. Therefore (despite some of the vile comments in this thread from actual anti-Semites) BDS is not inherently anti-Semitic.

QED.

I grew up in an Anti-Israel household in a strongly anti-Semitic neighborhood. When my dad comes home from work, he always said "Remember kids, the enemy aren't the Jews, our enemy is Israel"

[Cekoviu]

It’s not antisemitic to oppose Israel, it is antisemitic to oppose Jews

Guess what BDS opposes?

Uh, no. You're literally making the claim that boycotting Israel (despite the fact that many Jewish people support said boycott) is inherently anti-Semitic. That's not a straw man, that's what you said. How are the cases different?

Repeating your statement over and over isn't actually proving it. It's just yelling. Many Jewish people support BDS. They don't argue for the total destruction of Israel nor the oppression of Jews, and they don't use anti-Semitic arguments or memes to get their point across. Therefore (despite some of the vile comments in this thread from actual anti-Semites) BDS is not inherently anti-Semitic.

QED.

Saying QED makes you sound like a dick tbh, even if your point is valid.

Repeating your statement over and over isn't actually proving it. It's just yelling. Many Jewish people support BDS. They don't argue for the total destruction of Israel nor the oppression of Jews, and they don't use anti-Semitic arguments or memes to get their point across. Therefore (despite some of the vile comments in this thread from actual anti-Semites) BDS is not inherently anti-Semitic.

QED.

I grew up in an Anti-Israel household in a strongly anti-Semitic neighborhood. When my dad comes home from work, he always said "Remember kids, the enemy aren't the Jews, our enemy is Israel"

It's a bit worrying that your father discussed Israel with children in the first place...

[Conserative Morality]

If you ever call out Israel, it's anti-semitism. Them's the rules. The fact that it's absurd on its face to use such whataboutisms in any other situation, like criticizing America or China, is irrelevant.

Quit with the strawman bullshit. It's beyond pathetic.

It's a strawman to call out whataboutism when the response is literally "Why call out Israel, what about all those other countries you AREN'T boycotting, huh?"

Hmm...

[Cekoviu]

Quit with the strawman bullshit. It's beyond pathetic.

It's a strawman to call out whataboutism when the response is literally "Why call out Israel, what about all those other countries you AREN'T boycotting, huh?"

Hmm...

Your avatar looks even more skeptical in conjunction with this post.

[Conserative Morality]

It's a bit worrying that your father discussed Israel with children in the first place...

My mother always discussed politics with me as a kid. I don't really think it's that uncommon.

[Sierra Lyricalia]

Repeating your statement over and over isn't actually proving it. It's just yelling. Many Jewish people support BDS. They don't argue for the total destruction of Israel nor the oppression of Jews, and they don't use anti-Semitic arguments or memes to get their point across. Therefore (despite some of the vile comments in this thread from actual anti-Semites) BDS is not inherently anti-Semitic.

QED.

I grew up in an Anti-Israel household in a strongly anti-Semitic neighborhood. When my dad comes home from work, he always said "Remember kids, the enemy aren't the Jews, our enemy is Israel"

Nobody said there weren't some anti-Semites involved in the boycott (just as a number of anti-Semites support the State of Israel almost no matter what it does, for various geopolitical and/or religious reasons). The claim that the anti-BDS side is trying to defend is that boycotting Israel is per se racist or biased against Jewish people. That claim is bullshit. It is possible to advocate and act against a country without wanting its people to be subjugated or harmed. Just because the anti-BDS side can't differentiate between Israel and Jewish people doesn't mean everyone else has that handicap; and your anecdote proves nothing about anyone besides your own family/neighborhood.

Saying QED makes you sound like a dick tbh, even if your point is valid.

Well, like you say... I can be a dick and still be right.

<Edit: getting rid of double post>

[Tornado Queendom]

The only thing this condemnation will destroy is the German Parliament's chances of getting Merkel into the EU parliament, which have already been slimmed to the size of a straw. Also, it'll only give MORE reasons for authoritarians to blame the Jewish race. If you don't want their opinions to be supported, let them speak, and pray that their opinions get laughed at. Censoring Neo-Nazis will only lead to MORE Neo-Nazis in the long run.

No, censoring Neo-Nazis will not create more Neo-Nazis

Sit down, and let me teach you something.
Have you ever heard of the Streisand Effect?! This is a phenomemon where an attempt to censor something goes horribly wrong, and only ends up publicizing the extremism. People hear about it, and some of them even join up.
In other words, it may indirectly create more Neo-Nazis.

[Cekoviu]

It's a bit worrying that your father discussed Israel with children in the first place...

My mother always discussed politics with me as a kid. I don't really think it's that uncommon.

I discussed politics with my parents as a teen too, but I was (perhaps wrongly) assuming S&U was talking about a younger age.

[Conserative Morality]

I discussed politics with my parents as a teen too, but I was (perhaps wrongly) assuming S&U was talking about a younger age.

I was 5 when she first had a discussion with me, in simple terms; 9 when it started getting advanced, and by 12 I had set off as a little ideologue on my own steam. My mother thought it important that I understand the democratic process which so defines our country; as did, for that matter, the schooling system in my state.

[Aclion]

The only thing this condemnation will destroy is the German Parliament's chances of getting Merkel into the EU parliament, which have already been slimmed to the size of a straw. Also, it'll only give MORE reasons for authoritarians to blame the Jewish race. If you don't want their opinions to be supported, let them speak, and pray that their opinions get laughed at. Censoring Neo-Nazis will only lead to MORE Neo-Nazis in the long run.

No, censoring Neo-Nazis will not create more Neo-Nazis

[Conserative Morality]

No, censoring Neo-Nazis will not create more Neo-Nazis

They were saying it was a Jewish conspiracy long before society was friendly to Jews, m8.

[Tobleste]

It’s not antisemitic to oppose Israel, it is antisemitic to oppose Jews

Guess what BDS opposes?

Israel.

Unfortunately plenty of people seem to think opposing Israel is the same as opposing Jews.

[Scomagia]

Quit with the strawman bullshit. It's beyond pathetic.

It's a strawman to call out whataboutism when the response is literally "Why call out Israel, what about all those other countries you AREN'T boycotting, huh?"

Hmm...

No, this is the strawman:

If you ever call out Israel, it's anti-semitism. Them's the rules.

But you fucking knew that.

[Anagonia]

As I've grown older, I've grown wiser to the State of Israel and its ways of extorting the goodwill of the world to defend its sovereignty. There are some very well documented circumstances where they go all out to defend that justification, regardless if it falls within the lines of humane treatment or not. In any capacity, to deny them that right to exist, or to be defined as a human being, is just as evil. Normally I despise any European government, but I commend the German on agreeing to that.

[Risottia]

BDS is not antisemitic for opposing occupations of Palistinian territory.

They are however antisemitic for cropdusting with antisemitic tropes in order to to advance their opposition.

I have failed to notice BDS initiatives supported by antisemitic tropes. Could you link some examples?

[Conserative Morality]

It's a strawman to call out whataboutism when the response is literally "Why call out Israel, what about all those other countries you AREN'T boycotting, huh?"

Hmm...

No, this is the strawman:

If you ever call out Israel, it's anti-semitism. Them's the rules.

But you fucking knew that.

Clearly not, considering that anytime criticism of Israel comes up, such as here, incredibly flimsy justifications are used, such as whataboutism, to accuse the critics of being anti-semites, as it was here. But I'm sure you didn't know that at all, and are just being a concerned netizen here. Thank you for your effort.