Fighting to the Finnish(A Finland Election Thread)

[Great Kauthar]

I wouldn't imagine the SDP would be thrilled with the Finns joining in. Why would Kesk be excluded from the coalition?

Largely because it was Kesk that led the last government and lost nearly 20 seats with the current count.

As it is, I'll say the Yle's probably right and I'll say SDP-KOK-VIHR-RKP for the government if the numbers stay more or less the same.

Ah well it'll be interesting. KOK and Kesk remain in a strong position as they're effectively kingmakers for the coalition. A continuation of the current govt+KD is equally possible depending how coalition talks go.

[Havarland]

I voted for the Greens and I hope they will win
I have no faith in True Finns as they've had their chance.

[Shrillland]

I voted for the Greens and I hope they will win
I have no faith in True Finns as they've had their chance.

Well, they've got a good chance of being part of the government at least.

[Havarland]

[Havarland]

Muut - others

[Immoren]

So two "Others" seats are Åland representative and Movement Now's chairperson...
...Which is probably not surprising, I guess, but slightly disappointing. lol

[Havarland]

I voted for the Greens and I hope they will win
I have no faith in True Finns as they've had their chance.

Well, they've got a good chance of being part of the government at least.

Toivottavasti.
I hope so. Hopefully they'll stop "aktiivimalli" and all that crap as well. It really doesn't work (for real)

[Havarland]

Oh, absolutely. Theirs is actually one of Europe's older ones.

Y’know, considering this is the country that managed to withstand the titan that was the Soviet Union and stab them in the eye with a metaphorical fork out of sheer nationalistic defense, I’d make a lotta sense lol

That said, Finland’s concerns have shifted to immigrants, just like the rest of Europe.

Lately it has faded away, since they discovered what has been going on in the dark web. Don't worry.
Immigrants ain't bad. Finns are the same. Now the people are talking on HOW WE CAN PROTECT OUR CHILDREN, not blaming immigrants.

[Havarland]

The situation has changed a bit

We'll see if True Finns will beat Social Democrats.

[Immoren]

I think I cast my vote good atm. lol

[Great Kauthar]

The exit polls are now in:

SDP: 18.9%/ 41 seats'
KOK: 17.2%/ 38 seats
Kesk: 15.4%/ 29 seats
PS: 15.1%/ 33 seats
VIHR: 11.4% / 24 seats
.vas: 8.9%/ 18 seats
KD: 4.3%/ 6 seats
RKP: 4%/ 9 seats
SIN: 1%
Others: 3.9%/ 2 seats

In short, forming a government will be a mess. KOK, however, could pull it off if they're given a chance.

Now it's looking like:

SDP: 17.8%/ 40 seats
PS: 17.6%/ 39 seats
KOK: 17.6%/ 38 seats
Kesk: 15.6%/ 32 seats
VIHR: 10.7% / 20 seats
.vas: 8.6%/ 16 seats
KD: 4%/ 6 seats
RKP: 4.7%/ 10 seats
SIN: 1% / 0 seats
Others: 2.4%/ 0 seats

PS definitely overperformed. If it stays like this, there's a possiblity of a populist Prime Minister.

[San Lumen]

Hopefully Finns Party wont be government but from the looks of it seems like there will be no choice. Its really sad how much anti immigrant and far right parties are rising in Europe. Hopefully they are excluded

[Great Kauthar]

Hopefully Finns Party wont be government but from the looks of it seems like there will be no choice. Its really sad how much anti immigrant and far right parties are rising in Europe. Hopefully they are excluded

Yes it is sad but it isn't a surprise when mainstream politicians and public figures have been working against us. They forced demographic changes on communities without consulting them, they bailed out the banks, they sold us false promises. We were lied to and when we spoke out against it we were labelled racist and bigoted, and now they're paying the price for it. While I wouldn't vote for PS or a party like that myself, it is the political and media class at fault.

[San Lumen]

Hopefully Finns Party wont be government but from the looks of it seems like there will be no choice. Its really sad how much anti immigrant and far right parties are rising in Europe. Hopefully they are excluded

Yes it is sad but it isn't a surprise when mainstream politicians and public figures have been working against us. They forced demographic changes on communities without consulting them, they bailed out the banks, they sold us false promises. We were lied to and when we spoke out against it we were labelled racist and bigoted, and now they're paying the price for it. While I wouldn't vote for PS or a party like that myself, it is the political and media class at fault.

Sorry but how is demographic change being forced. You act like its some mass anti white conspiracy

How dare we bail out the banks we should have just let the whole global financial system collapse. something better would have come out it but you would not have like the immediate outcome

[Shrillland]

Yes it is sad but it isn't a surprise when mainstream politicians and public figures have been working against us. They forced demographic changes on communities without consulting them, they bailed out the banks, they sold us false promises. We were lied to and when we spoke out against it we were labelled racist and bigoted, and now they're paying the price for it. While I wouldn't vote for PS or a party like that myself, it is the political and media class at fault.

Sorry but how is demographic change being forced. You act like its some mass anti white conspiracy

How dare we bail out the banks we should have just let the whole global financial system collapse. something better would have come out it but you would not have like the immediate outcome

It wasn't just demographic change, the mess in Oulu back in December and January turned the tide in the Finns' favour.

For those who don't know, Oulu is a city in North Ostrobothnia(not quite Lappland but close) that basically saw a Finnish reproduction of the Rotherham Crisis when a large number of men, most of whom were Middle Eastern/Arab, were found to be grooming teenage girls for sex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oulu_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

When the news broke out, the Finns seized on it.

[Shrillland]

Here are the final numbers according to Yle: https://vaalit.yle.fi/ev2019/fi/parties

SDP: 40
PS: 39
KOK: 38
Kesk: 31
VIHR: 20
.vas: 16
RKP: 9
KD: 5
Others(Aland and Movement Now): 2

Now the wrangling begins. SDP gets first crack at forming a coalition, and if Yle's analysis is anything to go by, they'll start by making moves with KOK, I doubt that they'll want the Finns in the government. With them out, and Kesk getting a first-rate whipping, I'll say SDP-KOK-VIHR-RKP for 107 seats. What do you guys think?

[San Lumen]

Here are the final numbers according to Yle: https://vaalit.yle.fi/ev2019/fi/parties

SDP: 40
PS: 39
KOK: 38
Kesk: 31
VIHR: 20
.vas: 16
RKP: 9
KD: 5
Others(Aland and Movement Now): 2

Now the wrangling begins. SDP gets first crack at forming a coalition, and if Yle's analysis is anything to go by, they'll start by making moves with KOK, I doubt that they'll want the Finns in the government. With them out, and Kesk getting a first-rate whipping, I'll say SDP-KOK-VIHR-RKP for 107 seats. What do you guys think?

As long as the Finns are out of government fine with me. Who becomes prime minister in that coalition?

[Shrillland]

Here are the final numbers according to Yle: https://vaalit.yle.fi/ev2019/fi/parties

SDP: 40
PS: 39
KOK: 38
Kesk: 31
VIHR: 20
.vas: 16
RKP: 9
KD: 5
Others(Aland and Movement Now): 2

Now the wrangling begins. SDP gets first crack at forming a coalition, and if Yle's analysis is anything to go by, they'll start by making moves with KOK, I doubt that they'll want the Finns in the government. With them out, and Kesk getting a first-rate whipping, I'll say SDP-KOK-VIHR-RKP for 107 seats. What do you guys think?

As long as the Finns are out of government fine with me. Who becomes prime minister in that coalition?

SDP Leader Antti Rinne becomes PM in that case.

[Western-Ukraine]

SDP, KESK, VIHR and VAS is a probable outcome. KESK will get its "maakuntamalli" and a few key ministers. KESK and Sipilä will do anything to stay in power and the reds+greens will get a lion's share in everything else. An unlikely red+blue coalition of SDP and KOK with the minor parties is just another 2011 catastrophe waiting to explode. Alternatively, SDP will fail to form a government and KOK and KESK will cave in to PS and let the bourgeois government continue with some adjustments, possibly with KD. After all, KOK and KESK will get what they want.

[Shrillland]

SDP, KESK, VIHR and VAS is a probable outcome. KESK will get its "maakuntamalli" and a few key ministers. KESK and Sipilä will do anything to stay in power and the reds+greens will get a lion's share in everything else. An unlikely red+blue coalition of SDP and KOK with the minor parties is just another 2011 catastrophe waiting to explode. Alternatively, SDP will fail to form a government and KOK and KESK will cave in and let the bourgeois government continue with some adjustments, possibly with KD. After all, KOK and KESK will get what they want.

Actually, if SDP fails, the Finns get next crack having come in second place. In that case, I would say PS-KOK-Kesk, so just a rearrangement of the current government with a new populist slant to it.

[Western-Ukraine]

SDP, KESK, VIHR and VAS is a probable outcome. KESK will get its "maakuntamalli" and a few key ministers. KESK and Sipilä will do anything to stay in power and the reds+greens will get a lion's share in everything else. An unlikely red+blue coalition of SDP and KOK with the minor parties is just another 2011 catastrophe waiting to explode. Alternatively, SDP will fail to form a government and KOK and KESK will cave in and let the bourgeois government continue with some adjustments, possibly with KD. After all, KOK and KESK will get what they want.

Actually, if SDP fails, the Finns get next crack having come in second place. In that case, I would say PS-KOK-Kesk, so just a rearrangement of the current government with a new populist slant to it.

Already noted in my edit! That's one likely outcome in my opinion. Orpo is an opportunist, he'll compromise with PS if that's necessary for KOK to get what it wants. KESK will tag along regardless: neither KESK nor KD refused to work with PS.

[Havarland]

Sorry but how is demographic change being forced. You act like its some mass anti white conspiracy

How dare we bail out the banks we should have just let the whole global financial system collapse. something better would have come out it but you would not have like the immediate outcome

It wasn't just demographic change, the mess in Oulu back in December and January turned the tide in the Finns' favour.

For those who don't know, Oulu is a city in North Ostrobothnia(not quite Lappland but close) that basically saw a Finnish reproduction of the Rotherham Crisis when a large number of men, most of whom were Middle Eastern/Arab, were found to be grooming teenage girls for sex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oulu_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

When the news broke out, the Finns seized on it.

But when the article about Finnish men raping children for over 15 years and brocastasting it online was released everybody stopped talking about it and everybody were quiet. Some people were like:”alright, we shouldn’t blame immigrants, but rather how we can protect our children “

[Shrillland]

It wasn't just demographic change, the mess in Oulu back in December and January turned the tide in the Finns' favour.

For those who don't know, Oulu is a city in North Ostrobothnia(not quite Lappland but close) that basically saw a Finnish reproduction of the Rotherham Crisis when a large number of men, most of whom were Middle Eastern/Arab, were found to be grooming teenage girls for sex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oulu_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

When the news broke out, the Finns seized on it.

But when the article about Finnish men raping children for over 15 years and brocastasting it online was released everybody stopped talking about it and everybody were quiet. Some people were like:”alright, we shouldn’t blame immigrants, but rather how we can protect our children “

A lot of people did, yes. But the Finns still gained support because of people who only cared about this justifying their fear of Muslims.

[Havarland]

I don't think that SDP will fail. They are very different from True Finns, but I wouldn't put too much faith in them, because politics don't work that way.
Most of the other parties are against True Finns.

[San Lumen]

I don't think that SDP will fail. They are very different from True Finns, but I wouldn't put too much faith in them, because politics don't work that way.
Most of the other parties are against True Finns.

And they will probably form a grand coalition to keep them out of government