Is this a real gun?

[Wikipedia and Universe]

This reminded me of something. I heard about this fictional "gun of all guns" from some weird SciFi movie of which I don't know the name. I only caught it channel surfing several years ago and all I can remember about it was that it had a standard automatic gun, a flamethrower, and some kind of freeze-blasting thing among other things, and that it was operated by some antagonist who might have had a beard. I know this is vague but again I only saw it channel surfing like 5 or 6 years back and barely remember it. If this rings a bell could someone say what they think it is? And no its not the gun from Cop III mentioned earlier in this thread.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

The bottom barrel is apparently for a flare gun.

It has a logo that looks somewhat like a spider.

The thing that looks like an ammo clip has something printed onit that looks like 5.56mm ball and tracer ammo, whatever that means.

EDIT: Apparently it is a flare launcher. A 37mm useless thing that would be better to have an M203 mounted on it.

Ball and tracer are different forms of ammunition. Specifically, if this were a real gun (It looks like an airsoft gun), it would fire the M855 NATO Ball, which is the standard round used by NATO forces in their assault rifles and LMGs. The tracer refers to the M856 5.56x45mm NATO Tracer, which uses pyrotechnic chemicals to create a flammable reaction that burns brightly, allowing the round to be seen during night operations. NATO specifically uses red tracers, while the Warsaw Pact and former USSR used green tracers. The standard NATO load for most ammunition is a 3:1 (or is it 4:1?) ball-tracer ratio.

RE: The Flare Launcher, the purpose as explained in the video is amusing, but yeah, something that packs a wallop or another box of rounds would better serve the thing. :3

The printing on the side of the mag indicates it's a 4:1 Ball-to-Tracer ratio and that it holds 200 rounds. 200 rounds. That's a nice number, but a larger one would be nicer, 'specially since it's belt-fed.

[Nalinathris]

This reminded me of something. I heard about this fictional "gun of all guns" from some weird SciFi movie of which I don't know the name. I only caught it channel surfing several years ago and all I can remember about it was that it had a standard automatic gun, a flamethrower, and some kind of freeze-blasting thing among other things, and that it was operated by some antagonist who might have had a beard. I know this is vague but again I only saw it channel surfing like 5 or 6 years back and barely remember it. If this rings a bell could someone say what they think it is? And no its not the gun from Cop III mentioned earlier in this thread.

I think you are talking about the gun from the Fifth Element. http://students.uat.edu/geobrown/Galler ... ay_zf1.jpg THAT is certainly a fun one. Missile launcher, poison needle launcher, flamethrower AND freeze thing, seeker bullets, and to top it all off, a self destruct button! Did I miss anything?

Edit; Actually, I'll just let this guy explain it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pxjnl1yuXk

[Risottia]

So, I was searching up some weapons for a squad I was preparing (unmade topic yet), and I came across this... so, is it real? And if it is, what is it called?

Meh, it looks quite unwieldy.

[Satirius]

So, I was searching up some weapons for a squad I was preparing (unmade topic yet), and I came across this... so, is it real? And if it is, what is it called?

Meh, it looks quite unwieldy.

I think it's real. Colt (or maybe Bushmaster?) made it at some sort of gun show(I remember seeing it on Wired's Danger Zone SHOT show article along with the gun with the electronic safety) to say "HUD art here, you don't need to aim no moar" and make every squad gunner have the posture of TF2's Heavy.

[Allanea]

Real gun made by the company for lulz.

As in, it actually fires actual bullets, but it's entirely useless.

[Kirhean Tribes]

Seriously, click the links people. Tis a real gun.

That said...


If one watches the video where he actually fires it, you can see how he aims the weapon. The foregrip is used as a pivot, while he pulls up on the handle to push the barrel down. There wasn't actually much climb involved. An interesting solution I think.


Still, firing it from the hip...gah...


I'd say the earlier post about supressive fire from around corners about nails it's only serious use. The M249 accomplishes all the same tasks this weapon could accomplish, with the exception of the previous statement. Of course, that's balanced out by the fact that a slung weapon in a building would be a liability...so it actually doesn't solve any problems with combat in an Urban environment.

Also, seriously...a flare gun on a weapon aimed with IR goggles? Would have been much better to mount an M203, or even better...nothing at all...reducing the weight of the weapon.

I'm not even going to give the suppressor the dignity of a discussion...


A somewhat cool, if pointless weapon I think.

[Techno-Soviet]

The bottom barrel is apparently for a flare gun.

It has a logo that looks somewhat like a spider.

The thing that looks like an ammo clip has something printed onit that looks like 5.56mm ball and tracer ammo, whatever that means.

EDIT: Apparently it is a flare launcher. A 37mm useless thing that would be better to have an M203 mounted on it.

Ball and tracer are different forms of ammunition. Specifically, if this were a real gun (It looks like an airsoft gun), it would fire the M855 NATO Ball, which is the standard round used by NATO forces in their assault rifles and LMGs. The tracer refers to the M856 5.56x45mm NATO Tracer, which uses pyrotechnic chemicals to create a flammable reaction that burns brightly, allowing the round to be seen during night operations. NATO specifically uses red tracers, while the Warsaw Pact and former USSR used green tracers. The standard NATO load for most ammunition is a 3:1 (or is it 4:1?) ball-tracer ratio.

RE: The Flare Launcher, the purpose as explained in the video is amusing, but yeah, something that packs a wallop or another box of rounds would better serve the thing. :3

The printing on the side of the mag indicates it's a 4:1 Ball-to-Tracer ratio and that it holds 200 rounds. 200 rounds. That's a nice number, but a larger one would be nicer, 'specially since it's belt-fed.

Blah, the box's "letters" looks like random squigglies to me anyway. :P

Real gun made by the company for lulz.

As in, it actually fires actual bullets, but it's entirely useless.

According to KAC's spokesperson...this. xd

[Allanea]

The reason they mount 37mm flare launchers on guns is because the 37mm flare launcher, having no mas-sproduced anti-personnel munitions for it, can be defined by US law as not being a Destructive Device and not requiring a $200 license/"tax stamp".

[Risottia]

Also, seriously...a flare gun

Flare goons are cheap kapitali$t wersions of the real stooff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPO-A_Shmel_(Bumblebee)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7eYGWjZI8s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAQ-7O3YFWo

[UNIverseVERSE]

Your kidding right?
Sarcasm doesn't translate in here well.
If you are not, well the trigger on the weapon is behind the magazine, in that chainsaw type handle. That trigger in front of the magazine is for that 37mm flare gun.
And I just realized that that might be what you are talking about, and if so, you would fire it with skill.

A flare gun isn't fired at something, but up in the air. Once you remember that, how to fire it becomes simple -- angle the gun up by quite a lot, and you can reach the trigger rather easily.

[Wikipedia and Universe]

This reminded me of something. I heard about this fictional "gun of all guns" from some weird SciFi movie of which I don't know the name. I only caught it channel surfing several years ago and all I can remember about it was that it had a standard automatic gun, a flamethrower, and some kind of freeze-blasting thing among other things, and that it was operated by some antagonist who might have had a beard. I know this is vague but again I only saw it channel surfing like 5 or 6 years back and barely remember it. If this rings a bell could someone say what they think it is? And no its not the gun from Cop III mentioned earlier in this thread.

I think you are talking about the gun from the Fifth Element. http://students.uat.edu/geobrown/Galler ... ay_zf1.jpg THAT is certainly a fun one. Missile launcher, poison needle launcher, flamethrower AND freeze thing, seeker bullets, and to top it all off, a self destruct button! Did I miss anything?

Edit; Actually, I'll just let this guy explain it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pxjnl1yuXk

That's the one. I knew it had that cocoon shape and for some reason came in desert camo. Weird how I had Gary Oldman bouncing around in my mind but I didn't know he played that guy. Weird.

[Nazi Centauri]

So, I was searching up some weapons for a squad I was preparing (unmade topic yet), and I came across this... so, is it real? And if it is, what is it call?

It can

[Dimoniquid]

So, I was searching up some weapons for a squad I was preparing (unmade topic yet), and I came across this... so, is it real? And if it is, what is it call?

It can

It can?

[Queen Firebreath]

looks like something off of Halo

[Brogavia]

Also, seriously...a flare gun

Flare goons are cheap kapitali$t wersions of the real stooff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPO-A_Shmel_(Bumblebee)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7eYGWjZI8s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAQ-7O3YFWo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M202A1_FLASH

RPO, eat your heart out.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

The bottom barrel is apparently for a flare gun.

It has a logo that looks somewhat like a spider.

The thing that looks like an ammo clip has something printed onit that looks like 5.56mm ball and tracer ammo, whatever that means.

EDIT: Apparently it is a flare launcher. A 37mm useless thing that would be better to have an M203 mounted on it.

Ball and tracer are different forms of ammunition. Specifically, if this were a real gun (It looks like an airsoft gun), it would fire the M855 NATO Ball, which is the standard round used by NATO forces in their assault rifles and LMGs. The tracer refers to the M856 5.56x45mm NATO Tracer, which uses pyrotechnic chemicals to create a flammable reaction that burns brightly, allowing the round to be seen during night operations. NATO specifically uses red tracers, while the Warsaw Pact and former USSR used green tracers. The standard NATO load for most ammunition is a 3:1 (or is it 4:1?) ball-tracer ratio.

RE: The Flare Launcher, the purpose as explained in the video is amusing, but yeah, something that packs a wallop or another box of rounds would better serve the thing. :3

The printing on the side of the mag indicates it's a 4:1 Ball-to-Tracer ratio and that it holds 200 rounds. 200 rounds. That's a nice number, but a larger one would be nicer, 'specially since it's belt-fed.

Blah, the box's "letters" looks like random squigglies to me anyway.

Then my squiggle-fu worked perfectly!

Maybe if they took out the forward flare launcher and added a stand and maybe a higher-cap magazine, I'd think people here would have an easier time imagining this as a real weapon.

[Amakasu]

No its not one of your standard guns. I'm a bit of a gun enthusiast and that's not a gun you can find being produced by any of the major gun companies. However, it is entirely possible that someone took parts of a machine gun and custom modified it to look like that. In that case it would be a real gun named whatever he decides to call it. My bet is that its just a movie prop. From the design, its definitely American. Who the fuck is stupid enough to put a m203 grenade launcher and a suppressor/silencer on a light machine gun anyway?

[Gun Manufacturers]

No its not one of your standard guns. I'm a bit of a gun enthusiast and that's not a gun you can find being produced by any of the major gun companies. However, it is entirely possible that someone took parts of a machine gun and custom modified it to look like that. In that case it would be a real gun named whatever he decides to call it. My bet is that its just a movie prop. From the design, its definitely American. Who the fuck is stupid enough to put a m203 grenade launcher and a suppressor/silencer on a light machine gun anyway?

Read the entire thread. Someone found out the manufacturer and provided a link (in the link are videos, one of which explains why they made it, and one shows this gun firing live rounds). Also, the under-barrel device isn't an M203, it's a 37mm flare launcher (the M203 is 40mm).

[Greed and Death]

It is not real the lack of shoulder stock makes it almost impossible to aim.

[Tagmatium]

It is not real the lack of shoulder stock makes it almost impossible to aim.

The video discusses the use of IR lasers and goggles in order to circumvent that. It was made with that sort of thing in mind.

[Dyakovo]

It is not real the lack of shoulder stock makes it almost impossible to aim.

Wrong and wrong.