Calling all Atheists!!

[The Amazing Wasteland]

List of all gods Christians reject in order to believe in their own God:

Warning: list may be incomplete
Andhrimnir
Angrboda
Astrild
Atla
Audhumla
Balder
Beyla
Borghild
Bragi
Brono
Bylgia
Dagur
Disen
Eir
Elli
Fenrir
Forseti
Freya
Freyr
Frigg
Gefion
Gerd
Heimdall
Hel
Hermod
Hod
Holler
Idun
Jord
Jormungand
Kari
Kvasir
Laga
Lofn
Loki
Magni
Mani
Miming
Mimir
Modi
Njord
Norns
Nott
Odin
Ran
Saga
Sif
Sjofn
Skadi
Sleipnir
Sol
Syn
Thor
Tyr
Ull
Vali
Valkyries
Vanir
Var
Vidar

Apollo
Bacchus
Bellona
Ceres
Cupid
Diana
Faunus
Flora
Janus
Juno
Jupiter
Lares
Libintia
Maia
Mars
Mercury
Minerva
Mithras
Neptune
Ops
Pales
Pluto
Pomona
Proserpine
Saturn
Venus
Vertumnus
Vesta
Vulcan

Aphrodite
Apollo
Ares
Artemis
Athena
Demeter
Dionysus
Hades
Helios
Hephaestus
Hera
Hermes
Hestia
Persephone
Poseidon
Selene
Zeus

Airmid
Artio
Balor
Branwen
Camalus
Cerunnos
Cyhiraeth
Druantia
Giobhniu
Lugh
Llyr
Maeve
Manannan
Margawse
Mebd
Mider
Morrigan
Nemain

Aine
Angus Og
Anu
Babd Catha
Bel
Bran
Brighid
Bris
Dagda
Danu
Diancecht
Flidais
Labraid
Macha
Niamh

Arawn
Arianrhod
Amaethon
Blodeuwedd
Cerridwen
Dewi
Don
Dylan
Elaine
Gwydion
Gwynn Ap Nudd
Math Ap Mathowny
Myrrdin

Agasaya
Ah Chuy Kak
Ah Cun Can
Ah Hulneb
Ahulane
Anahita
Anath
Andraste
Ankt
Anouke
Aray
Ares
Ashur
Athena
Badb
Beg-Tse
Belatu-Cadros
Bellona
Bishamon
Bugid Y Aiba
Buluc Chabtan
Burijas
Camaxtli
Camulus
Cariocienus
Caswallawn
Chemosh
Dev
Donar
Ekchuah
Enyalius
Enyo
Erra
Eshara
Futsu-Nushi-No-Kami
Gu
Guan-Di
Gun
Hachiman
Hadur
Huitzilopochtli
Ictinike
Inanna
Indra
Irmin
Jarovit
Karttikeya
Korrawi
Kukailimoku
Laran
Mars
Maru
Menhit
Menthu
Mentu
Mextli
Minerva
Mixcoatl
Morrigan
Murukan
Nacon
Nanaja
Neith
Ninurta
Ogoun
Oro
Resef
Reshep
Rugiviet
Sakhmet
Samulayo
Segomo
Septu
Seth
Svantetit
Svetovit
Ah Cun Can
Teutates
Triglav
Tu
Tu Matauenga
Turris
Tyr
Wepwawet
Wurukatte
Zababa
Zroya

Belobog
Berstuk
Crnobog
Dazbog
Flins
Hors
Jarilo
Juthrbog
Karewit
Lada
Lado
Marowit
Perun
Podaga
Porewit
Radegast
Rod
Siebog
Simargl
Stribog
Svarog
Svetovid
Triglav
Veles
Zirnitra

Dziewona
Lada
Lado
Marzanna
Matka Gabia
Matka Ziemia
Mokosh
Perperuna
Siwa
Zaria
Zislbog
Zizilia
The Zorya



Nezha
Daluoxian
Jinhuan Yuanshuai
Li Nezha
Luoche Taizi
Ne Zha
Nezhataizi
No-cha
Nuozha
Tailuoxian
Taizi Yuanshuai
Taiziyeh
Yèuhuang Taizi
Zhongtan Yuanshuai

List of all Gods I reject on arbitrary basis in order to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster:

Pretty much the same list, but add the Christian God at the end. Hey, turns out we have more in common than I thought!

This is why Pascal's Wager is completely idiotic and useless.

[Skaladora]

Holy hell that was a long post! Sir, I commend you! But I don't think the Invisible Pink Unicorn was on there.

Yeah. I should've put it in the list of Gods Christians reject, but it wouldn't have made it on the list of Gods I reject. I might not worship Her directly, but I do not doubt Her pinkness either.

[Cyrelia]

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This is why Pascal's Wager is completely idiotic and useless.

ooh clap clap clap clap clap ^ agree with this

[Skaladora]

This is why Pascal's Wager is completely idiotic and useless.

I quite agree. If you buy into Pascal's Wager, then you have to believe in every God and/or Goddess ever discovered, on the off chance that one or many of them truly exist and might be mad that you didn't pay proper homage to them.

Needless to say, even if you were to devote an entire full-time job's worth of time to worship, you couldn't possibly hope to cover paying respects to them all.

I figure if I'm gonna be screwed anyway, I might as well do away with the needless time wasting. It's why I love the Flying Spaghetti Monster so much. Worship actually overlaps with dinner time, so by eating pasta I commune with my God and fill my empty stomach at the same time. It's win-win.

[The Congregationists]

I quite agree. If you buy into Pascal's Wager, then you have to believe in every God and/or Goddess ever discovered, on the off chance that one or many of them truly exist and might be mad that you didn't pay proper homage to them.

Needless to say, even if you were to devote an entire full-time job's worth of time to worship, you couldn't possibly hope to cover paying respects to them all.

The problem is compounded by the fact that even if you did worship 'em all to cover all your bases, some of them demand exclusive worship - "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" - so you'd run afoul of some by worshiping others and you're back to square one, basically.

[Dinner Theatre Actors]

All of these arguement still indicate that man created God - not the other way around.

Of course man created God, for a really simple reason too. God is designed so that humans can assert power and control over other humans, it is a vehicle for oppression.

Not always. Some people (even Christians) have endowed their god with caring & sharing socialistic characteristics (Mennonites & Salvation Army for example).
But that's the case in point to me: Oral Roberts, The Pope, Bishop Gene Robinson, the Rev. Fred Phelps and Barack Obama are all good practicing Christians. They all have interpreted God through a Christian perspective. They all worship vastly different Gods.
If I posted a "theist only" poll and had everyone here who actually believed in a god, several gods or some sort of supreme being vote on exactly what God, Gods or Supreme Being really means we would have a huge number of ideas according to the god they have created or had created for them in their childhoods.

[Karaginsky]

Give me a strong reason why you dont believe in God?

God has never really shown himself in an era where the majority of historic scriptures aren't transformed by Popes and followers. There has been no physical evidence of a God, Heaven or a Hell. No one has ever seen it so we can't conclude its exsistance.

Give me a reason why I shouldn't believe in God?

Because I'd expect anyone of moderate intelligence to stop believing in something out of the pure wish that it exsists and contemplate wheater is really does exsist, which is what the human brain is designed to do.

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

Your faith gives you comfort, and I respect that. You think that after you die, there will be eternal bliss and joy, and I respect that. If something so old is so popular, there's bound to be some evidence in it.

[Dyakovo]

I think that, before we even debate about whether or not god is perfect and humanity was created perfect, we need to define what the hell perfection is.

Me.

If you were perfect, you would be bi sexual and a hermaphrodite.
Then everyone could love you.

Prove I'm not.

How can I? I would need..ahem...compromising photos of you. *displays gimme signal under the table*

The proof is only convincing in person, when can I expect you?

You know, sometimes having a vivid imagination combined with very strong visualization skills is definitely unfortunate. This is one of those times.

[Risottia]

Answer these questions for me.
Give me a strong reason why you dont believe in God?

1.There is no objective evidence for it (subjective evidence, as in an ekstasis, is too much personal to be used as an argument to persuade other people, and personally I've never had a religious ekstatis). So it's not necessary to explain anything.
2.The concept of a deity is quite far-fetched per se. It attains more to fantasy than to reality.

Give me a reason why I shouldnt believe in God?

Why? If you're happy that way, of course stick to it. Just don't try using a subjective, irrational argument in a rational debate, or try forcing anyone to act according your own personal, irrational beliefs.

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

I'm not into base sophism.

[Risottia]

Holy hell that was a long post! Sir, I commend you! But I don't think the Invisible Pink Unicorn was on there.

There was. Her name is invisible, too, though.

[Bottle]

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

Your faith gives you comfort, and I respect that. You think that after you die, there will be eternal bliss and joy, and I respect that. If something so old is so popular, there's bound to be some evidence in it.

Like the belief that black people are inherently inferior to white people, right?

[Ifreann]

I'm an atheist because God spoke to me through a burning pile of evidence bush and said unto me "Go forth, and piss my people off!".

[Iniika]

Answer these questions for me.

Give me a strong reason why you dont believe in God?

Give me a reason why I shouldnt believe in God?

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

Answer these questions for me.

Give me a strong reason why you dont believe in God?

Because the only evidence I have been given of God is what people have told me and my experience has been that people are flawed and inherently untrustworthy, especially when they have a secret agenda, which most of humanity does. Most of humanity does have a special interest that they wish to see propagated, whether they realize it or not.

In that regard, the God people tell me of is much too human to be divine. He suffers from all of our negative emotions and insecurities such that I cannot believe he is all knowing or all loving or all capable.

The only way for such a being to exist would be if he were completely and utterly indifferent to everything we do here. In which case, it wouldn’t matter at all whether we believed, whether we did good or not.

Give me a reason why I shouldnt believe in God?

You’ll have to find that on your own, I’m afraid. I could give you all of my years of observational experience that tells me there is no God, but you wouldn’t believe it unless you had lived it for yourself.

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

I can’t. I’m sorry, I just can’t. I can give you the sociological, psychological and historical reasons and justifications for many gods, but I cannot argue from a theist point of view, simply because I don’t find any truth in it. Much like I cannot argue for why I believe Santa exists. Because I get gifts every Christmas? I know that it is family and friends that provide them, not Santa. Therefore, I cannot argue that there exists a Santa.

[Chezovolvia]

Answer these questions for me.

Give me a strong reason why you dont believe in God?

Give me a reason why I shouldnt believe in God?

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

I am Agnostic, but I'll go ahead...

1). There is no direct evidence of a Supreme Being. It's completely unreasonable to say that an invisible man is watching our every move and when we die he will decide whether we get to "live" in a paradise or "live" in a fiery pit. Plus, he answers the prayers of 6 billion people? Wouldn't "Heaven" be overpopulated?

2). I don't force atheism upon believers, but my argument would be that it is a waste of time to believe in something that was, in my opinion, thought up 4000 years ago to explain the world.

Alright, I was raised in a Catholic family (I practically have to hide my Agnosticism)...let's see here.

1). How can you explain the universe? It's huge, it's beyond comprehension. Things like that just don't happen, someone or something must control it all.

2). You should be religious because it will save you from eternal damnation...

Now, my personal beliefs...

I am a atheist leaning Agnostic. I used to be very religious, but I gradually lost view of that. I don't feel The Bible is true, it was written by men, not God. I believe men like Abraham, Moses, and Jesus existed, but their acts were exceptionalized and they took on a Godly appearance of their own. I don't respect Christians (only the zealots) to a certain extent. They hold the beliefs that only Christians are true believers, and the rest will rot in a fiery cesspool for eternity. What if the Aztecs had it right? We'll never know, and I actually find their stories more believable than Christianity's.

Personally, I suppose my beliefs line up with Buddhism best. I am about 40 percent sure that something along the lines of Reincarnation exists, but I'm only about 5 percent sure an invisible man is watching me.

My beliefs are mostly backed in science. Reincarnation fits with science, but Christianity clashes. As for science, the universe is massive, and that both hurts and helps both my doubts and beliefs. On one end, the Universe is too huge and mysterious to reach a conclusion, but on the other it's simply too mysterious to think something wasn't behind it all.

In the end, I try to keep myself from thinking about my existence. Why am I here, do I have a soul, is there such thing as a soul, why do I think? All these questions simply give more questions and yield no answers. I am simply living my life (but is it mine; more questions), and when the time comes for it to end I will know the truth (or I won't )

[Fnordgasm 5]

Answer these questions for me.

Give me a strong reason why you dont believe in God?

It was like this.. I was meditating and trying to get in touch with my pineal gland in order to get in contact with my goddess but it had moved into my penis, right? Glands, yeah? Who trusts them? So I grabbed hold of it and I make contact and it's like the world just dissolves away before my eyes and there's my Lady Chaos standing before me looking fine, wearing quite a revealing white toga, no tunic and quite badly wrapped, with her arms coquettishly held behind her back grasping that little apple of hers.. Naturally, my eyes gravitated to her cleavage and this is when the relationship between me and my goddess went a bit sour. She was upset. I was embarrassed. Sizes of appendages were mocked. Things were said that perhaps shouldn't have been said.

Anyway, she said she doesn't believe in me so why should I believe in her? And whatever she says I know how to satisfy a woman!

Give me a reason why I shouldnt believe in God?

If you don't, they can't watch you while you shower.

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

I don't know.. Debating has caused me no end of trouble... I think I'll pass if it's all the same..

[Ermarian]

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

If there were an argument in favor of Theism (or specifically Christianity) that I honestly believed was as strong as my rationale against Theism, I would be an agnostic. If I made up a weak argument and claimed it fulfills the requirement (such as Pascal's Wager), I would be disingenuous.

Edit: Also, I'm not a Great Debator. I am at most a Master Debator.


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*runs*

[Risottia]

All of these arguement still indicate that man created God - not the other way around.

Of course man created God, for a really simple reason too. God is designed so that humans can assert power and control over other humans, it is a vehicle for oppression.

Fichte, iirc.

[The Master M]

Answer these questions for me.

Give me a strong reason why you dont believe in God?

Give me a reason why I shouldnt believe in God?

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

1) I require scientific proof. Until you can give me such proof, I refuse to believe that, in the words of George Carlin: "There's an INVISIBLE MAN...LIVING IN THE SKY...who watches every thing you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten special things that he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry for ever and ever 'til the end of time...but he loves you. And he needs money."

2)Nah. You can believe in what you want- I don't care. If you want to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster- Hey, more power to you. I couldn't give two thirds of a flying frick about what you believe- just follow the unspoken Atheist Commandment: Thou Shalt Keep Thy Religion TO THYSELF.

3) Can't really come up with any good arguments for Christianity. My opinion of it is simply that of many children crying out for love because Daddy wouldn't hug them so they turn to the aforementioned invisible man in the sky.

You can all bash me all you want- I couldn't give a flying turd about your religion. The Fifth commandment: Thou Shalt Not Kill, is bull. More people have been killed in the name of this invisible man then for any other reason, particularly between Muslims and Christians as they have their eternal slap-fight over 'More Peace-Loving Then Thou'. But he loves you! Sucketh mine salty salami, Religion.

[United Marktoria]

I'm an atheist because God spoke to me through a burning pile of evidence bush and said unto me "Go forth, and piss my people off!".

Sigged

[Yallak]

Answer these questions for me.

Give me a strong reason why you dont believe in God?

Give me a reason why I shouldnt believe in God?

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

1. Well, I could give you a long, long argument why and mention no evidence and whatnot but I won't go there as many have already, instead I'll point out the one thing that I see as Christianities biggest flaw and the number one reason I will never believe in god - Not a single piece of the christian concept of 'god' makes a bit of sense if you consider it for more than a brief instant. Allow me to elaborate:

Assuming christian beliefs are correct, then god is all-knowing, all-powerful etc. If this was true, then god knew and planned the world to turn out as frakked as it is, he planned for humans to be sinful, because he would have known what man would do when he was creating us. And god created the heavens and the earth so says the bible, so god created Satan and hell either directly or knew that something else he created would become hell and Satan. Now according to the supposed true account of god, the bible, the christian god is not a giant bastard who created a sin pit and threw us in purposefully as playthings for his amusement. So the bible is either a lie or a childrens story and god cant possibly be all-knowing and thus cant even be a god or doesn't exist at all.

2. I would assume the reason I should give you to not believe would be the same as the strong reason why I don't believe so see number 1. But frankly I don't care what anyone else believes, proven by the fact that 99% of my friends are very much full-fledged christians.

3. I couldn't possibly give you a sensible or logical sentence to defend christianity.

[Ifreann]

I'm an atheist because God spoke to me through a burning pile of evidence bush and said unto me "Go forth, and piss my people off!".

Sigged

Great success!

[Taylorship]

#1: I can't give you one reason why you shouldn't believe in god because I don't think you shouldn't. You're allowed to believe in some magical bearded guy who lives in the sky and makes everything in the universe go *poof* out of thin air. You're allowed to call someone who sends those who don't worship him enough to eternal hell and torture a kind and loving god. I don't care, I respect your religion. (No sarcasm here)

#2: And why don't you give me one good reason why you DO believe in god. We have no evidence of a god's existence, yet we have some of his inexistence. You say that a good debater gives arguements for both sides, yet you don't even make any points for your own side!

#3: And why can't you respect other peoples...well, atheism isn't really a religion but still! Undertand that some people don't believe in god and that's the way it is. They can still be good people, even if they don't worship a mighty deity.

#4 Also, you told me to give a strong point for the christian side of the arguement. Well, I agree that a good debater gives points for both sides, but unfortunately I can't think of a point on your side. Sorry, it's just difficult to think that you believe in god for any reason other than that you were raised having been taught the christian ways by your parents.

[Kanabia]

Answer these questions for me.

Give me a strong reason why you dont believe in God?

Give me a reason why I shouldnt believe in God?

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

To be honest, I care even less about giving you a reason to disbelieve in God than I do about identifying the composition of the muck under my right big toenail. But I don't understand why we filthy atheists actually need a "strong reason" to disbelieve in the existence of something - if you claim existence of something and believe that all people should agree with your position, you're obliged to make an effort to prove it and provide strong evidence for following your belief. Or you can you know, keep to yourself and not bother anyone with your beliefs and i'll happily return the favour.

[Enistopia]

I'm an atheist, and I couldn't care less what people believed, so long as they kept it to themselves.

I dislike anyone who broadcasts their views in an attempt to evangelise them or force them down others' throats.

What he said.

[Kamsaki]

Like all great debators give me a defend the christian side of the agruement as strong as you do your side.

I take issue with the way you've phrased this. Good debating focuses on a motion, a question or a particular proposed action, and is not constrained to defending a particular line of attack. If I'm opposing the motion "This house supports the establishment of a paedophile name-and-shame policy", it is not good debating strategy to attempt to defend the practice of paedophilia - querying the resulting vigilantism, the additional obstacle to reform it constructs, the right of the state to violate privacy and the fragmentation of society it would create are vastly more effective.