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Postby Gauthier » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:36 am

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DBJ wrote:Trump - still better than obama.

You are kidding, right?


If Obama filed for bankruptcy even once nobody would be praising his business acumen for it.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:37 am

SuperKittyFinalBoss wrote:You know, I don't think Trump would be as bad as everyone seems to think. Don't get me wrong, he's very much a terrible person, a madman, a bigot, incompetent, etc. The USA isn't an elective dictatorship, it's not as if the lunatic's being voted into 4 years of absolute power. There's a real possibility that his presidency, while certainly far from a bright spot in US history, would serve as a wakeup call to the general populace of the USA that the slope they've been sliding down is not good at all.

... That said, I'd still much prefer Sanders, myself, who is about as radical and fringe as Trump, from a US politics standpoint, if not more, except in a progressive direction, rather than the reactionary. Which of course says all too much about the state of US politics, that a man who wants to implement what is already standard practice in much of western Europe is considered revolutionary in the USA.


Ditto, though I'm more of a Biden guy myself if I were to vote Democratic this upcoming election cycle.

Trump really isn't all that bad, and the same can be said about Obama/Clinton/etc. to the Republicans.
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Maybe Trump should learn how to debate and stop going bankrupt every few years if he and his followers want to be taken seriously.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:38 am

USS Monitor wrote:Maybe Trump should learn how to debate and stop going bankrupt every few years if he and his followers want to be taken seriously.


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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:40 am

USS Monitor wrote:Maybe Trump should learn how to debate and stop going bankrupt every few years if he and his followers want to be taken seriously.


Well to be fair, bankruptcy did actually do him some good as an occasional business strategy. He's worth a few billion dollars more than you are, after all.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:43 am

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Maybe Trump should learn how to debate and stop going bankrupt every few years if he and his followers want to be taken seriously.


Well to be fair, bankruptcy did actually do him some good as an occasional business strategy. He's worth a few billion dollars more than you are, after all.


Bankrupting the United States would set him for life.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:46 am

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No, but really, Trump being synonymous with a fart is the best press he's going to get, unless shitting on Fox News and being racist suddenly makes you a folk hero.


I agree with you in that he is not going to get any good press. This is a manifestation of the problem of Trump-shaming, for the press environment has created conditions where it is simply conventional to mock a respected businessman and turn him into a laughing stock, even for such childish reasons as his physical appearance. I disagree that Donald Trump is a racist. Racists don't hire thousands of minorities for minimum wage in order to work on projects that make millions in profit.

No, Trump isn't going to get good press because he keeps opening his mouth and saying stupid shit.
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Postby New Grestin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:50 am

Gauthier wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Well to be fair, bankruptcy did actually do him some good as an occasional business strategy. He's worth a few billion dollars more than you are, after all.


Bankrupting the United States would set him for life.

It's almost like letting the walking embodiment of everything wrong with modern American capitalism take office is a bad idea or something.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:51 am

Yes, denizens of NSG, please stop shaming me. I have done nothing wrong!
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:52 am

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Maybe Trump should learn how to debate and stop going bankrupt every few years if he and his followers want to be taken seriously.


Well to be fair, bankruptcy did actually do him some good as an occasional business strategy. He's worth a few billion dollars more than you are, after all.


I'd be worth a few billion dollars too if people kept throwing money at me to invest in new businesses, even after I demonstrated a complete inability to manage them.
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Postby The Martian Hegemony » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:53 am

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Postby The Martian Hegemony » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:53 am

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The Martian Hegemony wrote:I meant in the Sovereign Republic of NSG. It is still the breeding season for the Common NSSummerite, though this one is of an early generation and has mutated to acquire attributes which allowed him to take the trophy of 'Most Summery NSSummerite'.

Indeed. This particular specimen shows traits unique to the Summerite species. It's almost as though they're...

My god.

They're evolving.

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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:01 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:Yes, denizens of NSG, please stop shaming me. I have done nothing wrong!


In Latin, a monitor is someone who corrects and admonishes wrongdoers. This is my purpose in life and the reason I was named the Monitor.

You have done many things wrong.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:01 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Well to be fair, bankruptcy did actually do him some good as an occasional business strategy. He's worth a few billion dollars more than you are, after all.


I'd be worth a few billion dollars too if people kept throwing money at me to invest in new businesses, even after I demonstrated a complete inability to manage them.


Easy to say when you're a non-billionaire without nearly the business experience as he does.

Has that little brain of yours ever wondered why people trusted him with their hard-earned money to begin with? Maybe it was because he demonstrated good business sense.
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Postby New Grestin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:06 am

The Martian Hegemony wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Indeed. This particular specimen shows traits unique to the Summerite species. It's almost as though they're...

My god.

They're evolving.

Oh, no.

Moderators, we have a problem.

Jesus, they might start having actual, real opinions on things next.

They might even start showing up all year long.

I'll save you a bullet when that day comes.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:12 am

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I'd be worth a few billion dollars too if people kept throwing money at me to invest in new businesses, even after I demonstrated a complete inability to manage them.


Easy to say when you're a non-billionaire without nearly the business experience as he does.

Has that little brain of yours ever wondered why people trusted him with their hard-earned money to begin with? Maybe it was because he demonstrated good business sense.


Has it ever occurred to you that being a billionaire is not everyone's goal in life?

Considering the recession, I think it's safe to say that just because people are willing to put money into something doesn't mean they have any good reason for doing so.
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Postby Teemant » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:14 am

"Tolerant" leftists here won't tolerate anyone or any opinion that doesn't match with theirs.
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Postby New Grestin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:16 am

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I'd be worth a few billion dollars too if people kept throwing money at me to invest in new businesses, even after I demonstrated a complete inability to manage them.


Easy to say when you're a non-billionaire without nearly the business experience as he does.

Has that little brain of yours ever wondered why people trusted him with their hard-earned money to begin with? Maybe it was because he demonstrated good business sense.

Implying people who handle large amounts of money always have good business or common sense.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:18 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Easy to say when you're a non-billionaire without nearly the business experience as he does.

Has that little brain of yours ever wondered why people trusted him with their hard-earned money to begin with? Maybe it was because he demonstrated good business sense.


Has it ever occurred to you that being a billionaire is not everyone's goal in life?

Considering the recession, I think it's safe to say that just because people are willing to put money into something doesn't mean they have any good reason for doing so.


Did I ever say it was?

Also considering the recession, that has absolutely no bearing whatsoever. Fact of the matter is Donald Trump is a business-savvy guy who worked his way up for his fortune. Now whether I think he would make a good President or not is an entirely different matter (which I don't, for the record) but the man has business skills unlike anyone else in these forums. That is the sole reason why people trust him with their money, so if you have superior skills than he does when it comes to business management... show me the proof and show the money... if not, shut it.
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Postby Deuxtete » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:19 am

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I agree with you in that he is not going to get any good press. This is a manifestation of the problem of Trump-shaming, for the press environment has created conditions where it is simply conventional to mock a respected businessman and turn him into a laughing stock, even for such childish reasons as his physical appearance. I disagree that Donald Trump is a racist. Racists don't hire thousands of minorities for minimum wage in order to work on projects that make millions in profit.

No, Trump isn't going to get good press because he keeps opening his mouth and saying stupid shit.

And its working.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:19 am

New Grestin wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Easy to say when you're a non-billionaire without nearly the business experience as he does.

Has that little brain of yours ever wondered why people trusted him with their hard-earned money to begin with? Maybe it was because he demonstrated good business sense.

Implying people who handle large amounts of money always have good business or common sense.


Implying those who handle large amounts of money always either inherit it or never had to work hard for their money.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:20 am

New Grestin wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Easy to say when you're a non-billionaire without nearly the business experience as he does.

Has that little brain of yours ever wondered why people trusted him with their hard-earned money to begin with? Maybe it was because he demonstrated good business sense.

Implying people who handle large amounts of money always have good business or common sense.

And that someone incapable of turning a profit with a casino has demonstrated good business sense...
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Postby New Grestin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:20 am

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Implying people who handle large amounts of money always have good business or common sense.


Implying those who handle large amounts of money always either inherit it or never had to work hard for their money.

Imply- Eh, that joke wore thin pretty quick. Thanks for completely missing the point of the post, though.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:23 am

Teemant wrote:"Tolerant" leftists here won't tolerate anyone or any opinion that doesn't match with theirs.


So tolerant leftists aren't tolerant because they're not tolerating the intolerance of someone like Trump?

Because I'm going to have to point out - there are different levels of intolerance, there.

Suggesting all Mexicans are rapists is one kind of intolerance, as is suggesting we should deport 11 million people.

People objecting to that is a totally different world.

Your false equivalence is either poorly thought out, or just poorly representative.
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:24 am

New Grestin wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Implying those who handle large amounts of money always either inherit it or never had to work hard for their money.

Imply- Eh, that joke wore thin pretty quick. Thanks for completely missing the point of the post, though.


If that was a joke, it was a pretty crappy joke.
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