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Postby Desperate Measures » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:52 am

Ifreann wrote:One wonders what percentage think it already is...

That is far too depressing to think about. *thinks about monkeychildren*
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:53 am

Risottia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Well the margin for error is +/- 5.5%, so it could be up to 62.5%. But hey, at least it isn't 63%.

Well, not quite.

[nitpicking]
The margin of error (which, if not specified otherwise, is plus or minus one standard deviation from the average) being plus or minus 5.5% on an average of 57% means that there's about a 68% confidence that the actual value falls between 51.5% and 62.5% . Which doesn't rule out the cases of the actual value being 2%, 63% or 99% ... it just says that those values are a lot less likely.
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Postby -The West Coast- » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:53 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
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And?

What exactly could they do?


Amend the constitution? Isn't that one of the powers that comes with being an elected official in the US? The ability to change things?

Its not at all easy or encouraged to amend the constitution.
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Postby Larrylykinsland » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:55 am

-The West Coast- wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Amend the constitution? Isn't that one of the powers that comes with being an elected official in the US? The ability to change things?

Its not at all easy or encouraged to amend the constitution.

Especially the Bill of rights, which is what The United States was founded on.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:58 am

Larrylykinsland wrote:
-The West Coast- wrote:Its not at all easy or encouraged to amend the constitution.

Especially the Bill of rights, which is what The United States was founded on.

Er, I would guess that the documents which serve as foundation of the US are the Constitution (and the "Bill of Rights" is a collection of amendments to that document) and the Declaration of Independence...
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:59 am

The Wolven League wrote:Oh god no....


WHY REPUBLICANS. WHHHHYYYYYY.



I already am not fond of America, if they have Christianity as a national religion, then I'm out.


We should exterminate everyone who voted yes in that poll, for the good of mankind's sanity.


Me think thou doth tryeth too hard.

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Postby Larrylykinsland » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:00 am

Risottia wrote:
Larrylykinsland wrote:Especially the Bill of rights, which is what The United States was founded on.

Er, I would guess that the documents which serve as foundation of the US are the Constitution (and the "Bill of Rights" is a collection of amendments to that document) and the Declaration of Independence...

The DoI is basically a break-up letter.

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Postby Arcanda » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:00 am

What about the 43% who don't support it?
It's not such a big majority after all.

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:00 am

Wanting a National Religion =/= hating the Constitution.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:01 am

Larrylykinsland wrote:
Risottia wrote:Er, I would guess that the documents which serve as foundation of the US are the Constitution (and the "Bill of Rights" is a collection of amendments to that document) and the Declaration of Independence...

The DoI is basically a break-up letter.

Well, at least America had the good taste not to dump Britain by texting her.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:01 am

...which is why they should never be given political power.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:01 am

Larrylykinsland wrote:
Risottia wrote:Er, I would guess that the documents which serve as foundation of the US are the Constitution (and the "Bill of Rights" is a collection of amendments to that document) and the Declaration of Independence...

The DoI is basically a break-up letter.


A dear George letter....

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:02 am

Risottia wrote:
Larrylykinsland wrote:The DoI is basically a break-up letter.

Well, at least America had the good taste not to dump Britain by texting her.



And yet she still stood on our front lawn and burned our things.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:02 am

The Wolven League wrote:We should exterminate everyone who voted yes in that poll, for the good of mankind's sanity.


Even this Dalek says no.

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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:03 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Oh god no....


WHY REPUBLICANS. WHHHHYYYYYY.



I already am not fond of America, if they have Christianity as a national religion, then I'm out.


We should exterminate everyone who voted yes in that poll, for the good of mankind's sanity.


Me think thou doth tryeth too hard.

Try what? I was being serious.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:04 am

The Wolven League wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Me think thou doth tryeth too hard.

Try what? I was being serious.


... in that case. Pretty sure advocating the death of 53% of Republicans is a clear violation of the stickies.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:04 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Risottia wrote:Well, at least America had the good taste not to dump Britain by texting her.

And yet she still stood on our front lawn and burned our things.

America, as every young girl, is a bit excessive when it comes to public display of her emotions. Just look how openly possessive she is towards her new boyfriend Mexico.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:04 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Wanting a National Religion =/= hating the Constitution.

Basically does, though.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:05 am

Farnhamia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:An amendment changes the text of the Constitution, it would override the Establishment clause.

Yes, but it might be that the proposed amendment itself would be unconstitutional.

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That is easily the stupidest thing I've ever seen you post.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:06 am

Ifreann wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Wanting a National Religion =/= hating the Constitution.

Basically does, though.

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:Seeing as you're in danger of missing my point, let me reiterate. Republicans often oppose gun control, for a well-known example, on the context that it would be unconstitutional even though the constitution can be amended. Demanding a law which goes against the constitution has been previously regarded by Republicans as unconstitutional and something regarded as such has been deemed undesirable by Republicans. In fact, Republicans have actively argued against amending the constitution in the past and in the present in order to preserve the wishers of the founders. Now, we have 57% of Republicans according to this poll, demanding a law which goes against the constitution in it's current form. My point is that this indicated hypocrisy within the GOP. Would you agree?


I would agree, (as I was merely splitting hairs, and even though they are arguing against laws, not amendments((they would reject the Amendment on principle, not on grounds of unconstitutionality))) but I would be insistent to acknowledge that hypocrisy is hardly unique to the Republican party. After all 43% of Democrats think the President should be able to override the SCOTUS. So yes I agree, but in context.


EDIT: Important, IMHO, to note that the article didn't mention how this end would be accomplished. The poll asked if they supported making it the National Religion, and the article assumes it would be via a Law. I'd be willing to suggest that at least some of those respondents understood how that end would come to be via Amendment, Though my faith in Republican Voters is possibly misplaced.
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Postby The Wolven League » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:06 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Try what? I was being serious.


... in that case. Pretty sure advocating the death of 53% of Republicans is a clear violation of the stickies.

Eh, my views could be considered... extreme.
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Postby Larrylykinsland » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:07 am

Risottia wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:And yet she still stood on our front lawn and burned our things.

America, as every young girl, is a bit excessive when it comes to public display of her emotions. Just look how openly possessive she is towards her new boyfriend Mexico.

Both Britian and America were refered to as girls. I didn't know nations could be lesbians
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:08 am

Risottia wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:And yet she still stood on our front lawn and burned our things.

America, as every young girl, is a bit excessive when it comes to public display of her emotions. Just look how openly possessive she is towards her new boyfriend Mexico.


I see that relationship going badly. You move in together, and everything's going great, and then it goes to crap you're fighting over who gets Texas.

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:09 am

If it was 57% of some major political party in the U.S. wanting Islam as the National Religion, there would be a shitstorm.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:09 am

Larrylykinsland wrote:
Risottia wrote:America, as every young girl, is a bit excessive when it comes to public display of her emotions. Just look how openly possessive she is towards her new boyfriend Mexico.

Both Britian and America were refered to as girls. I didn't know nations could be lesbians


Technically America is pansexual. There's no hotbed we wont get involved in.

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