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Sosi
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Postby Sosi » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:21 pm

Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:
Sosi wrote:My nation, I'll make it hell.

Can I help you with that?

Yes. I've gone in the process of deregulating all industry & abolishing political freedoms. My major goal is to remove the income tax for now. Once done, I'll subsudize business only.
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Trevor Phillip Enterprises
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Postby Trevor Phillip Enterprises » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:22 pm

Sosi wrote:
Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:Can I help you with that?

Yes. I've gone in the process of deregulating all industry & abolishing political freedoms. My major goal is to remove the income tax for now. Once done, I'll subsudize business only.

Ah, its nice seeing another nation going down the path of unbridled capitalism. You and I really do need to be partners.

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Postby Sosi » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:31 pm

Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:
Sosi wrote:Yes. I've gone in the process of deregulating all industry & abolishing political freedoms. My major goal is to remove the income tax for now. Once done, I'll subsudize business only.

Ah, its nice seeing another nation going down the path of unbridled capitalism. You and I really do need to be partners.
I'm pleased I've a lower-tax rate than you. We're in the process of cutting defense spending.
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Postby Trevor Phillip Enterprises » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:33 pm

Sosi wrote:
Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:Ah, its nice seeing another nation going down the path of unbridled capitalism. You and I really do need to be partners.
I'm pleased I've a lower-tax rate than you.

I'll lower it back to pre-refactor days .... just you wait.

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Postby Sosi » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:34 pm

Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:
Sosi wrote:I'm pleased I've a lower-tax rate than you.

I'll lower it back to pre-refactor days .... just you wait.

Why the defense spending? Are not all of your people armed?
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:39 pm

Well Lauren helped me somewhat... then signed off unexpectedly...
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Postby Gradea » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:39 pm

Sosi wrote:
Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:I'll lower it back to pre-refactor days .... just you wait.

Why the defense spending? Are not all of your people armed?

You don't need gun when you have laser flowers! :p

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Postby Sosi » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:44 pm

Gradea wrote:
Sosi wrote:Why the defense spending? Are not all of your people armed?

You don't need gun when you have laser flowers! :p

I'd not mind life in your nation. Does a real world counterpart exist?
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:10 pm

Well, after finishing Nymphomaniac: Vol. I, I am reaffirmed in my delight of seeing Charlotte Gainsbourg act.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:17 pm

Things that make Gren feel old, Vol 1: Realizing that in 6 months and 10 days, it will have been 10 years since Katrina bitchslapped the shit out of Southeast Louisiana and Mississippi.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:24 pm

Grenartia wrote:Things that make Gren feel old, Vol 1: Realizing that in 6 months and 10 days, it will have been 10 years since Katrina bitchslapped the shit out of Southeast Louisiana and Mississippi.


That's it?

I realize that I'm about as old as when the Exxon Valdez oil spill happened and I was already born when the Berlin wall came down.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:26 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Things that make Gren feel old, Vol 1: Realizing that in 6 months and 10 days, it will have been 10 years since Katrina bitchslapped the shit out of Southeast Louisiana and Mississippi.


That's it?

I realize that I'm about as old as when the Exxon Valdez oil spill happened and I was already born when the Berlin wall came down.


10 years and they're still dealing with the aftermath in some areas down there so, yeah, 10 years is long-ass time.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:27 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
That's it?

I realize that I'm about as old as when the Exxon Valdez oil spill happened and I was already born when the Berlin wall came down.


10 years and they're still dealing with the aftermath in some areas down there so, yeah, 10 years is long-ass time.


It is indeed.

I was mostly addressing the fact they think they're old :p

I don't get why the fuck has the government not done much in regard of Katrina aid. Clearly Bush responded poorly to the situation and the aftermath, instead of better, it's been significantly worse to non-responsive.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:31 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
10 years and they're still dealing with the aftermath in some areas down there so, yeah, 10 years is long-ass time.


It is indeed.

I was mostly addressing the fact they think they're old :p

I don't get why the fuck has the government not done much in regard of Katrina aid. Clearly Bush responded poorly to the situation and the aftermath, instead of better, it's been significantly worse to non-responsive.


That was an example of how a gov't was unable to deal with an emergency. Although, IIRC, it's not like they weren't unaware of the dangers Katrina or any other strong hurricane could present for the dykes down in New Orleans. They were told about the flooding potential and they weren't more aggressive when it came to evacuate. Although some people refused to heed the evacuation warning and stayed in areas that were clearly dangerous.

Also, FEMA seems to have dropped the ball in bad management right after the emergency.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
It is indeed.

I was mostly addressing the fact they think they're old :p

I don't get why the fuck has the government not done much in regard of Katrina aid. Clearly Bush responded poorly to the situation and the aftermath, instead of better, it's been significantly worse to non-responsive.


That was an example of how a gov't was unable to deal with an emergency. Although, IIRC, it's not like they weren't unaware of the dangers Katrina or any other strong hurricane could present for the dykes down in New Orleans. They were told about the flooding potential and they weren't more aggressive when it came to evacuate. Although some people refused to heed the evacuation warning and stayed in areas that were clearly dangerous.

Also, FEMA seems to have dropped the ball in bad management right after the emergency.


I blame it to our case of not being prepared for hurricanes. Generally, during tropical season, the United States almost never gets hit with a hurricane. Admittedly, Katrina was something unexpected, but it should have been a quick response, not the sort of response we got.

It's part of the unique conditions that exists in the coasts, I realize, since where I come from we've been most of the time hit by hurricanes so we have developed building techniques and zoning regulations to deal with it.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:35 pm

WEll, guess it's time to hit up the laundromat before I get to tired to see straight.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:38 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
That was an example of how a gov't was unable to deal with an emergency. Although, IIRC, it's not like they weren't unaware of the dangers Katrina or any other strong hurricane could present for the dykes down in New Orleans. They were told about the flooding potential and they weren't more aggressive when it came to evacuate. Although some people refused to heed the evacuation warning and stayed in areas that were clearly dangerous.

Also, FEMA seems to have dropped the ball in bad management right after the emergency.


I blame it to our case of not being prepared for hurricanes. Generally, during tropical season, the United States almost never gets hit with a hurricane. Admittedly, Katrina was something unexpected, but it should have been a quick response, not the sort of response we got.

It's part of the unique conditions that exists in the coasts, I realize, since where I come from we've been most of the time hit by hurricanes so we have developed building techniques and zoning regulations to deal with it.


It doesn't hurt to be more prepared and it's not like the US hasn't been hit by some monsters prior to Katrina. I remember my grandma telling me of Andrew, which hit FL in the mid 1990s. They just grew careless.

That's something I've discussed with Gallo, building codes and materials in the US, particularly in areas prone to be hit by hurricanes or tropical storms. I understand that there's a necessity to insulate and, in that case, building with wood is the easiest thing to do but wooden houses and hurricane force winds do not mesh well.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:40 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I blame it to our case of not being prepared for hurricanes. Generally, during tropical season, the United States almost never gets hit with a hurricane. Admittedly, Katrina was something unexpected, but it should have been a quick response, not the sort of response we got.

It's part of the unique conditions that exists in the coasts, I realize, since where I come from we've been most of the time hit by hurricanes so we have developed building techniques and zoning regulations to deal with it.


It doesn't hurt to be more prepared and it's not like the US hasn't been hit by some monsters prior to Katrina. I remember my grandma telling me of Andrew, which hit FL in the mid 1990s. They just grew careless.

That's something I've discussed with Gallo, building codes and materials in the US, particularly in areas prone to be hit by hurricanes or tropical storms. I understand that there's a necessity to insulate and, in that case, building with wood is the easiest thing to do but wooden houses and hurricane force winds do not mesh well.


I'd say that in the zones around the gulf what needs to be done is to actually make the houses out of concrete and insulate on the inside. Basically a concrete wall and behind it a wooden frame.

It's something I've considered for a while myself that could reasonably work here in the U.S.
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:42 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It doesn't hurt to be more prepared and it's not like the US hasn't been hit by some monsters prior to Katrina. I remember my grandma telling me of Andrew, which hit FL in the mid 1990s. They just grew careless.

That's something I've discussed with Gallo, building codes and materials in the US, particularly in areas prone to be hit by hurricanes or tropical storms. I understand that there's a necessity to insulate and, in that case, building with wood is the easiest thing to do but wooden houses and hurricane force winds do not mesh well.


I'd say that in the zones around the gulf what needs to be done is to actually make the houses out of concrete and insulate on the inside. Basically a concrete wall and behind it a wooden frame.

It's something I've considered for a while myself that could reasonably work here in the U.S.


But how easy is it to insulate concrete (even with the wooden frame)? How energy efficient can it be too (both for winter and summer)?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:48 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'd say that in the zones around the gulf what needs to be done is to actually make the houses out of concrete and insulate on the inside. Basically a concrete wall and behind it a wooden frame.

It's something I've considered for a while myself that could reasonably work here in the U.S.


But how easy is it to insulate concrete (even with the wooden frame)? How energy efficient can it be too (both for winter and summer)?


Well concrete is pretty good insulator usually by itself since there's no air gaps to worry about, so it keeps the house at a reasonable degree of insulation at the beginning. Over time cracks create but it's much easier to give a layer of insulation to it, generally in the form of rigid foam panels which you can just glue over the concrete wall.

I was thinking on a mixture between concrete and wood. With the frame is much easier to place fiberglass insulation or organic insulation in between the wall and then just cover with sheetrock. Also concrete homes are far more efficient than wooden homes, that's a given.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:50 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
But how easy is it to insulate concrete (even with the wooden frame)? How energy efficient can it be too (both for winter and summer)?


Well concrete is pretty good insulator usually by itself since there's no air gaps to worry about, so it keeps the house at a reasonable degree of insulation at the beginning. Over time cracks create and it's much easier to give a second layer of insulation to it, generally in the form of rigid foam panels.

I was thinking on a mixture between concrete and wood. With the frame is much easier to place fiberglass insulation or organic insulation in between the wall and then just cover with sheetrock. Also concrete homes are far more efficient than wooden homes, that's a given.


Even in winter? I know in summer, concrete warms up a lot, but would it maintain a good temperature inside during winter, that's what I'm curious about.

Agreed with that. Concrete can withstand a hurricane (although if strong enough, it can suffer structural damage but at lest you won't lose your entire home). Not sure about tornadoes, but hurricanes, yes.
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Postby Madiganistan » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:05 am

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:07 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Well concrete is pretty good insulator usually by itself since there's no air gaps to worry about, so it keeps the house at a reasonable degree of insulation at the beginning. Over time cracks create and it's much easier to give a second layer of insulation to it, generally in the form of rigid foam panels.

I was thinking on a mixture between concrete and wood. With the frame is much easier to place fiberglass insulation or organic insulation in between the wall and then just cover with sheetrock. Also concrete homes are far more efficient than wooden homes, that's a given.


Even in winter? I know in summer, concrete warms up a lot, but would it maintain a good temperature inside during winter, that's what I'm curious about.

Agreed with that. Concrete can withstand a hurricane (although if strong enough, it can suffer structural damage but at lest you won't lose your entire home). Not sure about tornadoes, but hurricanes, yes.


During winter it'd keep a decent temperature during winter. You'd definitely need a central heating unit even with a concrete home with the weather we face around that time of the year. Insulation would be ideal too.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:23 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Things that make Gren feel old, Vol 1: Realizing that in 6 months and 10 days, it will have been 10 years since Katrina bitchslapped the shit out of Southeast Louisiana and Mississippi.


That's it?

I realize that I'm about as old as when the Exxon Valdez oil spill happened and I was already born when the Berlin wall came down.

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