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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:53 am

It means so little to me. It's like religion in a way. I couldn't give a rats arse about it until it starts becoming a problem like those losers who go around telling everyone that they are wrong about their beliefs and they are right.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:54 am

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Postby Cabana » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:55 am

I'm a secular Roman Catholic and I'm fine with atheists, it's what you choose to believe in.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:56 am

Herargon wrote:Actually, I am agnostic. That is because NOBODY really sure knows if there is a God or not. And nobody alive knows if there is an afterlife." If there is a god, why is he then not present?" is an atheists argument. "If there is no god, then how can there be wonders?" is the deists argument.
My argument is as following: Wonders might be statistically very unlikely, but that doesn't make them scientifically impossible. That nobody alive knows if there is an afterlife or not, doesn't make an afterlife impossible. Thus it's impossible to say if He/She/Pasta/Helix exists, or not, in my opinion.

Agnostic answers a different question. "Agnostic" and "atheist" are not mutually exclusive positions.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:57 am

Cabana wrote:I'm a secular Roman Catholic and I'm fine with atheists, it's what you choose to believe in.

It would be more accurate to say that it's what we don't believe in.
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Postby The New Velociraptor Empire » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:01 am

Utilitarian Garibaldi wrote:why do people care about god and atheism so much? On one side are the theists who are loud and usually stupid, and the other side are the Atheists who for some hypocritical reason have made it their live's meaning to say how stupid the theists are.

Due to the fact that theists are currently a dominant force in the world for no good reason besides "I believe in X, 'cause feelings." Different religious groups fight each other, and atheist groups have to fight to be heard at all. Atheists are less trusted than pedophiles in the USA, are less likely to be voted into political offices, and are generally pushed around by the religious.

It is only natural to crush those "loudmouths" that step up to the plate with nothing more than feelings. The atheist community I've seen thus far usually leaves the tolerant religious folk alone, they don't deserve it.

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Postby Eastern Equestria » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:03 am

What are my thoughts on Atheism?

I myself am one, but I don't consider that to be anything special. It's certainly not one of my defining characteristics. I just have no need for religion in my life, nor do I find any credibility to the existence of god or any other deity.
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Postby Valaran » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:03 am

Dyakovo wrote:Agnostic answers a different question. "Agnostic" and "atheist" are not mutually exclusive positions.



There is certainly considerable overlap.... but to use a personal example, I'm an agnostic without being an atheist (I do lean towards Atheism, but I don't have a strong enough view).
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:06 am

Valaran wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Agnostic answers a different question. "Agnostic" and "atheist" are not mutually exclusive positions.



There is certainly considerable overlap.... but to use a personal example, I'm an agnostic without being an atheist (I do lean towards Atheism, but I don't have a strong enough view).

Do you believe in any deity? Yes or no?
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Postby Valaran » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:09 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Valaran wrote:

There is certainly considerable overlap.... but to use a personal example, I'm an agnostic without being an atheist (I do lean towards Atheism, but I don't have a strong enough view).

Do you believe in any deity? Yes or no?


I am without knowledge.

I am open to the possibility of there being a deity, but I don't really care enough to dwell on the idea.

To be honest you can interpret that answer to mean I'm a theist or an atheist depending on your view. But I probably wouldn't subscribe to either interpretation right now.
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Postby Teemant » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:15 am

Well I'm an atheist and I view it positively.

I have been atheist my whole life (19 years old) and I have never belived in god. It just seems so impossible and illogical so that my mind just denies the possibilty of the god existing.

Just saying: I don't think badly about those who belive in god. I'm not that kind of atheist.
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Postby New DeCapito » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:19 am

I'm an atheist and I'm fine with religion.

What I'm not fine with, however, is one party trying to convince the other that they're wrong: you can't convince an atheist that there is a god, and vice versa.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:20 am

The New Velociraptor Empire wrote:
Utilitarian Garibaldi wrote:why do people care about god and atheism so much? On one side are the theists who are loud and usually stupid, and the other side are the Atheists who for some hypocritical reason have made it their live's meaning to say how stupid the theists are.

Due to the fact that theists are currently a dominant force in the world for no good reason besides "I believe in X, 'cause feelings."

If theists are dominant I imagine it has less to do with feelings and more to do with numbers and political power.
Different religious groups fight each other, and atheist groups have to fight to be heard at all. Atheists are less trusted than pedophiles in the USA, are less likely to be voted into political offices, and are generally pushed around by the religious.

Pushed around how?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:21 am

New DeCapito wrote:I'm an atheist and I'm fine with religion.

What I'm not fine with, however, is one party trying to convince the other that they're wrong: you can't convince an atheist that there is a god, and vice versa.

Of course you can. How do you think theism came to be if no one could ever be convinced that there is a god?
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Postby New DeCapito » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
New DeCapito wrote:I'm an atheist and I'm fine with religion.

What I'm not fine with, however, is one party trying to convince the other that they're wrong: you can't convince an atheist that there is a god, and vice versa.

Of course you can. How do you think theism came to be if no one could ever be convinced that there is a god?

Good point.

Also, please explain to me this compelling argument that makes people want to believe in God.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:26 am

Indifferent.

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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:26 am

Valaran wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Do you believe in any deity? Yes or no?


I am without knowledge.

I am open to the possibility of there being a deity, but I don't really care enough to dwell on the idea.

To be honest you can interpret that answer to mean I'm a theist or an atheist depending on your view. But I probably wouldn't subscribe to either interpretation right now.

Just answer the question.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:27 am

New DeCapito wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Of course you can. How do you think theism came to be if no one could ever be convinced that there is a god?

Good point.

Also, please explain to me this compelling argument that makes people want to believe in God.

There are plenty of monotheists. Ask one of them.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:28 am

Ifreann wrote:
New DeCapito wrote:I'm an atheist and I'm fine with religion.

What I'm not fine with, however, is one party trying to convince the other that they're wrong: you can't convince an atheist that there is a god, and vice versa.

Of course you can. How do you think theism came to be if no one could ever be convinced that there is a god?

Indeed. Every theist is an atheist who was convinced.
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Postby New DeCapito » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:28 am

Ifreann wrote:
New DeCapito wrote:Good point.

Also, please explain to me this compelling argument that makes people want to believe in God.

There are plenty of monotheists. Ask one of them.

I am. I'm asking the people of Nationstates to answer me.
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Postby Valaran » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:29 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Valaran wrote:
I am without knowledge.

I am open to the possibility of there being a deity, but I don't really care enough to dwell on the idea.

To be honest you can interpret that answer to mean I'm a theist or an atheist depending on your view. But I probably wouldn't subscribe to either interpretation right now.

Just answer the question.



That's is my answer though. I don't know if there is a god, and I don't have a strong belief either way. I believe there could be a god (though probably not the christian one).

Yeah, I know its not satisfactory, but things are rarely yes/no. (sorry)
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Postby Tagmatium » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:30 am

It makes the most sense to me, does atheism.
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Postby Asterdan » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:31 am

Athiesm is a bleak, illogical outlook on life, that makes little to no sense.
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Postby Jonkurlandia » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:31 am

i'm pantheist myself and im atheist when im sad(i view pantheism as a viewpoint rather than a belief)
i dont really like the word atheism itself because people mix with e with i and it's very specific(out of many things you can not believe in,you only say god) i like the term irreligious instead
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Postby Tagmatium » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:32 am

Asterdan wrote:Athiesm is a bleak, illogical outlook on life, that makes little to no sense.

It's neither particularly bleak, or particularly illogical.

Personally, I find the idea of a god-created universe illogical, but there we go.
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