"We are in America's second Revolutionary War"

[Tagmatium]

Isn't that sort of what they were doing when Cheney shot that guy in the face a few years back? It was this kind controlled hunt or something, IIRC. I don't know who this guy is or what he's doing with Elk ( ) but it sounds kind of similar based on what I've read here.

It is probably one of the smaller issues with the dude, though.

[Greed and Death]

This is a little early to be panicking anyways. The GOP has an incumbent Governor already and the primary is in may. The incumbent almost always wins those unless your Joe Lieberman.

[The Black Forrest]

Lets do ourselves a favor and not edit other peoples posts because you think they imply something they don't.

Fixed

So all your previous bitchy comments about the US are not?....

[The Black Forrest]

Second revolutionary war!

*SHAKES FIST IN THE DIRECTION OF THE UK*

DAMN YOU! I didn't even notice you took us over again!

[Vectrova]

When the actual Second Revolutionary War comes, people will be so apathetic due to overuse of the phrase by complete morons that America will surrender without a fight.

And I will laugh.

[Farnhamia]

When the actual Second Revolutionary War comes, people will be so apathetic due to overuse of the phrase by complete morons that America will surrender without a fight.

And I will laugh.

And the children will cry, "Mom! Grandpa's laughing at te computer screen again!"

But seriously, in a new Revolutionary War, who exactly would America surrender to?

[Chrobalta]

Who said Bush killed comedy when he left office? The GOP just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

[Inertina]

Who said Bush killed comedy when he left office? The GOP just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

Its only funny as long as nothing comes of it. The Tea Party protesters were hilarious until it became apparent they'd become a potent force within the GOP... then it was just scary.

[Chrobalta]

Who said Bush killed comedy when he left office? The GOP just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

Its only funny as long as nothing comes of it. The Tea Party protesters were hilarious until it became apparent they'd become a potent force within the GOP... then it was just scary.

Either that or they will split the vote. These are the same people who turned out en mass for GWB, I don't think they are a new "force" for the GOP, sure it might help them a ton in midterms, but I don't think it will turn the tables.

[Greed and Death]

Who said Bush killed comedy when he left office? The GOP just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

Considering its a state with open primary laws, Its a bit unfair to say he is representive of the GOP, atleast until after he gets past the primary.

after all I could always dig up the Daily show with the the lady trying to get on a congressional democratic party ticket on the platform drunk driving should be legal from 6 pm Friday to 6 am Sunday.

[Port Arcana]

Oh, I hope the UK do take back the colonies, but let Utah be its own independent country and expel all the nutters and fringe lunatics to it.

[New Manvir]

When the actual Second Revolutionary War comes, people will be so apathetic due to overuse of the phrase by complete morons that America will surrender without a fight.

And I will laugh.

And the children will cry, "Mom! Grandpa's laughing at te computer screen again!"

But seriously, in a new Revolutionary War, who exactly would America surrender to?

Mexico and Canada.

[Grave_n_idle]

Who said Bush killed comedy when he left office? The GOP just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

Hey - that's not fair. It's not like the Chairman of the party has come out and said that, not only might the GOP not take the House this year, but would be unprepared if they, by some miracle, did.






Ha ha..... wait, knock at the door.

Oh.

Apparently he did.


Oooh, that's gotta hurt...

[Daistallia 2104]

Forget all that Mormon shit...

This Rammell guy... domesticates elk.... to hunt.

Wow. What a douchebag.

Indeed.

While I cannot speak for his elk husbandry, I have seen other elk farms in Utah and I gotta say...those elk have it GOOOOD. Way better than all the cows in the dairies, for instance. Wide, grassy fields to run around in and tons of hot elk chicks.

And from what I understand, buying a trophy elk to "hunt" from one of these places involves both an exorbitant price and a slight risk. I have been told that after the purchase, the elk is released into the countryside. While you know where it was released, and it probably won't run away, there's a slight chance of it getting away, and then you're out tons of cash.

So I dunno if domesticating elk is equivalent to douchebaggery. If anything, being a dairy farmer is...those places are like concentration camps by comparison (note: I do not have any problem with dairies, I am simply commenting on the relative quality of life in comparison to elk in elk farms).

Then again, you were probably just making a joke based on some offshoot information from the article. Whatevs.

While the elk may have it good, canned hunts are indeed douchebaggery. And, while legal in Idaho, it's illegal in many states. (I'm actually surprised it's still legal in Idaho.) If you want a trophy, go earn it.

Isn't that sort of what they were doing when Cheney shot that guy in the face a few years back? It was this kind controlled hunt or something, IIRC. I don't know who this guy is or what he's doing with Elk ( ) but it sounds kind of similar based on what I've read here.

Ｙou're conflating two different stories. The caned hunt was a duck hunt.

[Muravyets]

Forget all that Mormon shit...

This Rammell guy... domesticates elk.... to hunt.

Wow. What a douchebag.

What? Cows aren't a big enough target for him? I second the douchebag judgment.

[Muravyets]

Isn't that sort of what they were doing when Cheney shot that guy in the face a few years back? It was this kind controlled hunt or something, IIRC. I don't know who this guy is or what he's doing with Elk ( ) but it sounds kind of similar based on what I've read here.

It is probably one of the smaller issues with the dude, though.

Yeah, to be honest, though "hunting" domesticated animals illustrates very neatly his douchebaggery, I am far more concerned with all that Christian Soldier crap. This man clearly has no idea what the US is or how its government, Constitution and laws work. He is clearly not competent to hold national office.

[Antilon]

Isn't that sort of what they were doing when Cheney shot that guy in the face a few years back? It was this kind controlled hunt or something, IIRC. I don't know who this guy is or what he's doing with Elk ( ) but it sounds kind of similar based on what I've read here.

It is probably one of the smaller issues with the dude, though.

Yeah, to be honest, though "hunting" domesticated animals illustrates very neatly his douchebaggery, I am far more concerned with all that Christian Soldier crap. This man clearly has no idea what the US is or how its government, Constitution and laws work. He is clearly not competent to hold national office.

According to his bio...

He was just coming off a major confrontation with the State of Idaho, Department of Agriculture over whether Rex needed a license or not to own an elk ranch. Since 1994 it was a requirement that all elk ranches be licensed. Prior to 2001, the Department of Agriculture inventoried the elk by counting heads. In 2001 they decided each elk needed an individual inventory. This required catching each elk and reading their small metal ear tags.

Rex was unable to catch nine elk that were on the mountain, but still contained in his 1000 acre facility. Because he couldn’t catch the elk and refused to dart them, the Department of Agriculture refused to renew his license. Rex challenged their authority to license ranches. Being a veterinarian and having worked with many cattle, sheep, and horse ranches he knew that they were not required to have a license, so why should elk ranches have the requirement?

The Department of Agriculture frustrated by the challenge and their inability to enforce the licensing, went to the 2001 legislature and changed the civil penalty law for what they ostensibly claimed were “bad actors” that thumbed their noses at the law.

The law prior to 2001 was a $100 minimum with a $5,000 maximum if a person was found guilty. Following the law change in 2001 it read, “each day of a continuing offense can be treated as a new offense.” So instead of a maximum penalty of $5,000 per offense if convicted, the new law allowed for $5,000 a day.

From the day the new law became effective until Rex had a formal settlement meeting for operating without a license the potential fines were over $750,000.00.

Rex’s solution to the problem was change the law! And that is what he did. With the help of Representative Dennis Lake in the House and Senator Don Burtenshaw in the Senate, the civil penalty law of 2001 was repealed and the rule requiring licensing of elk ranches was deleted.

Rex was profoundly moved by the victory and realized that rather then submitting to bad laws it is a person’s responsibility to try and change them. He also learned that it is possible for one man to make a stand against the government and win. This led to an intense study of the Constitution by Rex.

[Muravyets]

Isn't that sort of what they were doing when Cheney shot that guy in the face a few years back? It was this kind controlled hunt or something, IIRC. I don't know who this guy is or what he's doing with Elk ( ) but it sounds kind of similar based on what I've read here.

It is probably one of the smaller issues with the dude, though.

Yeah, to be honest, though "hunting" domesticated animals illustrates very neatly his douchebaggery, I am far more concerned with all that Christian Soldier crap. This man clearly has no idea what the US is or how its government, Constitution and laws work. He is clearly not competent to hold national office.

According to his bio...

He was just coming off a major confrontation with the State of Idaho, Department of Agriculture over whether Rex needed a license or not to own an elk ranch. Since 1994 it was a requirement that all elk ranches be licensed. Prior to 2001, the Department of Agriculture inventoried the elk by counting heads. In 2001 they decided each elk needed an individual inventory. This required catching each elk and reading their small metal ear tags.

Rex was unable to catch nine elk that were on the mountain, but still contained in his 1000 acre facility. Because he couldn’t catch the elk and refused to dart them, the Department of Agriculture refused to renew his license. Rex challenged their authority to license ranches. Being a veterinarian and having worked with many cattle, sheep, and horse ranches he knew that they were not required to have a license, so why should elk ranches have the requirement?

The Department of Agriculture frustrated by the challenge and their inability to enforce the licensing, went to the 2001 legislature and changed the civil penalty law for what they ostensibly claimed were “bad actors” that thumbed their noses at the law.

The law prior to 2001 was a $100 minimum with a $5,000 maximum if a person was found guilty. Following the law change in 2001 it read, “each day of a continuing offense can be treated as a new offense.” So instead of a maximum penalty of $5,000 per offense if convicted, the new law allowed for $5,000 a day.

From the day the new law became effective until Rex had a formal settlement meeting for operating without a license the potential fines were over $750,000.00.

Rex’s solution to the problem was change the law! And that is what he did. With the help of Representative Dennis Lake in the House and Senator Don Burtenshaw in the Senate, the civil penalty law of 2001 was repealed and the rule requiring licensing of elk ranches was deleted.

Rex was profoundly moved by the victory and realized that rather then submitting to bad laws it is a person’s responsibility to try and change them. He also learned that it is possible for one man to make a stand against the government and win. This led to an intense study of the Constitution by Rex.

So, what you're telling us is that his entire political career is based on a selfish desire to get his own way in everything?

[United Marktoria]

Isn't that sort of what they were doing when Cheney shot that guy in the face a few years back? It was this kind controlled hunt or something, IIRC. I don't know who this guy is or what he's doing with Elk ( ) but it sounds kind of similar based on what I've read here.

It is probably one of the smaller issues with the dude, though.

Yeah, to be honest, though "hunting" domesticated animals illustrates very neatly his douchebaggery, I am far more concerned with all that Christian Soldier crap. This man clearly has no idea what the US is or how its government, Constitution and laws work. He is clearly not competent to hold national office.

According to his bio...

He was just coming off a major confrontation with the State of Idaho, Department of Agriculture over whether Rex needed a license or not to own an elk ranch. Since 1994 it was a requirement that all elk ranches be licensed. Prior to 2001, the Department of Agriculture inventoried the elk by counting heads. In 2001 they decided each elk needed an individual inventory. This required catching each elk and reading their small metal ear tags.

Rex was unable to catch nine elk that were on the mountain, but still contained in his 1000 acre facility. Because he couldn’t catch the elk and refused to dart them, the Department of Agriculture refused to renew his license. Rex challenged their authority to license ranches. Being a veterinarian and having worked with many cattle, sheep, and horse ranches he knew that they were not required to have a license, so why should elk ranches have the requirement?

The Department of Agriculture frustrated by the challenge and their inability to enforce the licensing, went to the 2001 legislature and changed the civil penalty law for what they ostensibly claimed were “bad actors” that thumbed their noses at the law.

The law prior to 2001 was a $100 minimum with a $5,000 maximum if a person was found guilty. Following the law change in 2001 it read, “each day of a continuing offense can be treated as a new offense.” So instead of a maximum penalty of $5,000 per offense if convicted, the new law allowed for $5,000 a day.

From the day the new law became effective until Rex had a formal settlement meeting for operating without a license the potential fines were over $750,000.00.

Rex’s solution to the problem was change the law! And that is what he did. With the help of Representative Dennis Lake in the House and Senator Don Burtenshaw in the Senate, the civil penalty law of 2001 was repealed and the rule requiring licensing of elk ranches was deleted.

Rex was profoundly moved by the victory and realized that rather then submitting to bad laws it is a person’s responsibility to try and change them. He also learned that it is possible for one man to make a stand against the government and win. This led to an intense study of the Constitution by Rex.

The Question is...
Who the hell would write a Biography on this man!?

[Dyakovo]

Isn't that sort of what they were doing when Cheney shot that guy in the face a few years back? It was this kind controlled hunt or something, IIRC. I don't know who this guy is or what he's doing with Elk ( ) but it sounds kind of similar based on what I've read here.

It is probably one of the smaller issues with the dude, though.

Yeah, to be honest, though "hunting" domesticated animals illustrates very neatly his douchebaggery, I am far more concerned with all that Christian Soldier crap. This man clearly has no idea what the US is or how its government, Constitution and laws work. He is clearly not competent to hold national office.

According to his bio...

He was just coming off a major confrontation with the State of Idaho, Department of Agriculture over whether Rex needed a license or not to own an elk ranch. Since 1994 it was a requirement that all elk ranches be licensed. Prior to 2001, the Department of Agriculture inventoried the elk by counting heads. In 2001 they decided each elk needed an individual inventory. This required catching each elk and reading their small metal ear tags.

Rex was unable to catch nine elk that were on the mountain, but still contained in his 1000 acre facility. Because he couldn’t catch the elk and refused to dart them, the Department of Agriculture refused to renew his license. Rex challenged their authority to license ranches. Being a veterinarian and having worked with many cattle, sheep, and horse ranches he knew that they were not required to have a license, so why should elk ranches have the requirement?

The Department of Agriculture frustrated by the challenge and their inability to enforce the licensing, went to the 2001 legislature and changed the civil penalty law for what they ostensibly claimed were “bad actors” that thumbed their noses at the law.

The law prior to 2001 was a $100 minimum with a $5,000 maximum if a person was found guilty. Following the law change in 2001 it read, “each day of a continuing offense can be treated as a new offense.” So instead of a maximum penalty of $5,000 per offense if convicted, the new law allowed for $5,000 a day.

From the day the new law became effective until Rex had a formal settlement meeting for operating without a license the potential fines were over $750,000.00.

Rex’s solution to the problem was change the law! And that is what he did. With the help of Representative Dennis Lake in the House and Senator Don Burtenshaw in the Senate, the civil penalty law of 2001 was repealed and the rule requiring licensing of elk ranches was deleted.

Rex was profoundly moved by the victory and realized that rather then submitting to bad laws it is a person’s responsibility to try and change them. He also learned that it is possible for one man to make a stand against the government and win. This led to an intense study of the Constitution by Rex.

The Question is...
Who the hell would write a Biography on this man!?

Someone getting paid to do it?

[Uawc]

Lets do ourselves a favor and not be deliberately obtuse over a post that can clearly be taken any number of different ways.

Fixed

Fixed indeed.

*Joins the vast numbers of people who think you shouldn't be a moderator*

Eh, he's not abusing his powers at all, any other poster could have done the same thing.

OT: I ignore fanatics.

[Intangelon]

Lets do ourselves a favor and not be deliberately obtuse over a post that can clearly be taken any number of different ways.

Fixed

Fixed indeed.

*Joins the vast numbers of people who think you shouldn't be a moderator*

I think someone needs to look up the definition of "vast".

You got the same, deserved, treatment a non-Mod might have given you had you reacted so petulantly.

Just because you have a hard-on for Mel doesn't mean you're right.

[Daistallia 2104]

Yeah, to be honest, though "hunting" domesticated animals illustrates very neatly his douchebaggery, I am far more concerned with all that Christian Soldier crap. This man clearly has no idea what the US is or how its government, Constitution and laws work. He is clearly not competent to hold national office.

That's what got me posting this in the first place.

And now that I'm looking at him a bit more, I rather surprised we haven't heard about him yet.

Someone who thinks making jokes about hunting the sitting president at a political rally, especially this president, is acceptable, does not belong in any office.

And that bio from his webpage led me to this.

TEN PRINCIPLES TO GOVERN AMERICA

* America was established by God for a righteous people. If American turns away from God she will fail.
* The Constitution was inspired by God. The original principles set forth within its body are true and when strictly adhered to will keep us free.
* The proper role of government is to protect our rights to life, liberty, and property.
* Rights can only be taken away or limited when they interfere with another’s rights. Privileges on the other hand are subject to the will of the majority.
* The Federal government should do only those things which the states can not do for themselves. State government should do only those things which the counties can not do for themselves. County government should do only those things which the individuals can not do for themselves.
* Never ask a larger group to do that which can be done by a smaller group. The smaller the unit and the closer it is to the people, the easier it is to guide, to correct, to keep it solvent, and to keep our freedom.
* He who governs least, governs best.
* Capitalism advocates the principles of competition and choice in a free market setting and if allowed to operate without government interference is a proven formula for prosperity.
* Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish and you feed him for life.
* The key to success of a free nation is a well informed electorate.

http://rexrammell.com/tenprinciples.aspx

Ummm... points 1 and 10 contradict each other...

Isn't that sort of what they were doing when Cheney shot that guy in the face a few years back? It was this kind controlled hunt or something, IIRC. I don't know who this guy is or what he's doing with Elk ( ) but it sounds kind of similar based on what I've read here.

It is probably one of the smaller issues with the dude, though.

Indeed.

According to his bio...

-snip-

The Question is...
Who the hell would write a Biography on this man!?

Someone getting paid to do it?

Seeing as it's from his electoray campaign site, it was probabaly someone on his staff, and is so spun that it's worthless.

[Rolling squid]

We need to get him, that guy in virgina with the crazy website, and Glen Beck together, let them run a small country for a year, and bet on how long it takes them to crash and burn.

[Daistallia 2104]

We need to get him, that guy in virgina with the crazy website, and Glen Beck together, let them run a small country for a year, and bet on how long it takes them to crash and burn.

Sounds like a great follow up to the BBC's "How to Start Your Own Country". But who is "that guy in virgina with the crazy website"?