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Postby Eastern Equestria » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:03 pm

Othelos wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:She behaved very irresponsibly and very immaturely. We should hold government officials to higher standards of behavior and common decency. If these are the types of people we continue to elect to government, I have no faith in the future of democracy in America or anywhere else.

There was no need for her to get so agitated and she stepped out of line. I think she should take some time out... otherwise the level of debate in the Congress (already low enough as it is now) may deteriorate even further if it is perceived that such types of confrontational theatrics are not only tolerated but promoted. Unfortunately, confrontationalism and adversarialism are often what democracies inevitably promote with the focus on winning elections and ''out-talking'' your opponents.

Congressman have done worse.


No kidding.
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Postby Othelos » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:04 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:
Othelos wrote:Congressman have done worse.


Nlo kidding.

broken link, but I do remember learning about that in history class.

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Postby Kelinfort » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:04 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:
Othelos wrote:Congressman have done worse.


No kidding.

Nailed that on the first page :p

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Postby Eastern Equestria » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:15 pm

Othelos wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:
Nlo kidding.

broken link, but I do remember learning about that in history class.


Fixed, and yes, the incident is commonly taught in secondary education American history classes. (Those were really shoved down our throats, weren't they?)

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Eastern Equestria wrote:
No kidding.

Nailed that on the first page :p


Darn you to heck :D

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:21 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:Say what you want about House Republicans and their incompetence, but they would never do stupid shit like this. And calling a US rep. "insignificant"? Fuck this bitch.

Pelosi has got to go.


No, they would simply yell "You Lie!" during a State Of The Union speech.

Or accuse a respected academic of lying when her information doesn't fit their agenda

Or scream over colleagues attempting to introduce motions.

But at least they didn't have the temerity to actually walk quickly across the floor and challenge a colleague's blatant lies. The nerve of the woman!

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:23 pm

Othelos wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:She behaved very irresponsibly and very immaturely. We should hold government officials to higher standards of behavior and common decency. If these are the types of people we continue to elect to government, I have no faith in the future of democracy in America or anywhere else.

There was no need for her to get so agitated and she stepped out of line. I think she should take some time out... otherwise the level of debate in the Congress (already low enough as it is now) may deteriorate even further if it is perceived that such types of confrontational theatrics are not only tolerated but promoted. Unfortunately, confrontationalism and adversarialism are often what democracies inevitably promote with the focus on winning elections and ''out-talking'' your opponents.

Congressman have done worse. At least they don't duel each other to settle disputes anymore.


wow Congressmen have done worse?

What a disgrace... i can't believe it. This is really sad.

I mean, these people are supposed to be some of the most powerful and popular people in the world, otherwise, how'd they get elected? people sure know how to pick em...

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Postby Othelos » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:24 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Othelos wrote:Congressman have done worse. At least they don't duel each other to settle disputes anymore.


wow Congressmen have done worse?

What a disgrace... i can't believe it. This is really sad.

I mean, these people are supposed to be some of the most powerful and popular people in the world, otherwise, how'd they get elected? people sure know how to pick em...

They're human, too. this won't be the last time someone freaks out in congress when things are very divided.

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Postby Sheltopolis » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:25 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Sheltopolis wrote:Say what you want about House Republicans and their incompetence, but they would never do stupid shit like this. And calling a US rep. "insignificant"? Fuck this bitch.

Pelosi has got to go.


No, they would simply yell "You Lie!" during a State Of The Union speech.

Or accuse a respected academic of lying when her information doesn't fit their agenda

Or scream over colleagues attempting to introduce motions.

But at least they didn't have the temerity to actually walk quickly across the floor and challenge a colleague's blatant lies. The nerve of the woman!


I don't like what they did either but none of that was on the level of what Pelosi did.

Oh and Obama actually did lie so, keep that in mind.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:26 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Othelos wrote:Congressman have done worse. At least they don't duel each other to settle disputes anymore.


wow Congressmen have done worse?

What a disgrace... i can't believe it. This is really sad.

I mean, these people are supposed to be some of the most powerful and popular people in the world, otherwise, how'd they get elected? people sure know how to pick em...

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Postby Othelos » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:27 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
No, they would simply yell "You Lie!" during a State Of The Union speech.

Or accuse a respected academic of lying when her information doesn't fit their agenda

Or scream over colleagues attempting to introduce motions.

But at least they didn't have the temerity to actually walk quickly across the floor and challenge a colleague's blatant lies. The nerve of the woman!


I don't like what they did either but none of that was on the level of what Pelosi did.

at least she didn't cane or duel the opposition, which has been done on the past.

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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:27 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
No, they would simply yell "You Lie!" during a State Of The Union speech.

Or accuse a respected academic of lying when her information doesn't fit their agenda

Or scream over colleagues attempting to introduce motions.

But at least they didn't have the temerity to actually walk quickly across the floor and challenge a colleague's blatant lies. The nerve of the woman!


I don't like what they did either but none of that was on the level of what Pelosi did.

Really? How was what she did worse?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:27 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
No, they would simply yell "You Lie!" during a State Of The Union speech.

Or accuse a respected academic of lying when her information doesn't fit their agenda

Or scream over colleagues attempting to introduce motions.

But at least they didn't have the temerity to actually walk quickly across the floor and challenge a colleague's blatant lies. The nerve of the woman!


I don't like what they did either but none of that was on the level of what Pelosi did.


Right.

Is that because she's a Democrat or because she's a woman? Because it seems that by any reasonable standard, they're all worse.

Oh, and Obama did not lie about what he was being heckled for.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:29 pm

Othelos wrote:
Sheltopolis wrote:
I don't like what they did either but none of that was on the level of what Pelosi did.

at least she didn't cane or duel the opposition, which has been done on the past.

I bet many Democrats have just been itching to challenge Lindsay Graham to single combat. :p

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Postby Sheltopolis » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:29 pm

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I don't like what they did either but none of that was on the level of what Pelosi did.

Really? How was what she did worse?


Violating the etiquette of a House Representative, talking out of turn, pointing a finger at another U.S. representative and calling him "insignificant" (doesn't matter if it's true or not, you don't do that). She's a psychotic bitch.
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Postby Condunum » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:31 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:What has he done of significance?
Oh, that's right... Nothing. Ergo, he's insignificant.
Pelosi, on the other hand, was House Majority Leader, is current House Minority Leader, and was greatly responsible for getting a major piece of legislation ("Obamacare") passed through the House.


Seems like you are trying to justify her ridiculous actions. No U.S. representative is insignificant, and even if he is that is not something you just yell at him in a civil debate, let alone run across the House floor pointing a finger. She wasn't supposed to be talking for Christ's sake. I am sure if a Republican did this, those on the left would be flippin' their shit.

Any representative who doesn't have a badge on his sash that says "sponsored/authored/other a major bill" isn't much to shake a stick at. That's called a freshman rep, and they're basically a joke in the house until they prove themselves.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:32 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Really? How was what she did worse?


Violating the etiquette of a House Representative, talking out of turn, pointing a finger at another U.S. representative and calling him "insignificant" (doesn't matter if it's true or not, you don't do that). She's a psychotic bitch.


Right.

All of the examples I listed violated etiquette.

Two involved talking out of turn.

Two involved false accusations.

He's a lying sack of shit.

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Postby Sheltopolis » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:32 pm

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Seems like you are trying to justify her ridiculous actions. No U.S. representative is insignificant, and even if he is that is not something you just yell at him in a civil debate, let alone run across the House floor pointing a finger. She wasn't supposed to be talking for Christ's sake. I am sure if a Republican did this, those on the left would be flippin' their shit.

Any representative who doesn't have a badge on his sash that says "sponsored/authored/other a major bill" isn't much to shake a stick at. That's called a freshman rep, and they're basically a joke in the house until they prove themselves.


Doesn't matter, she's still being an ass.
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Postby Sheltopolis » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:33 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Sheltopolis wrote:
Violating the etiquette of a House Representative, talking out of turn, pointing a finger at another U.S. representative and calling him "insignificant" (doesn't matter if it's true or not, you don't do that). She's a psychotic bitch.


Right.

All of the examples I listed violated etiquette.

Two involved talking out of turn.

Two involved false accusations.

He's a lying sack of shit.


They're all sacks of shit, Pelosi is just a bigger one.
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Postby Condunum » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:33 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Condunum wrote:Any representative who doesn't have a badge on his sash that says "sponsored/authored/other a major bill" isn't much to shake a stick at. That's called a freshman rep, and they're basically a joke in the house until they prove themselves.


Doesn't matter, she's still being an ass.

So? She's right, he's a liar and an insignificant rep. She may be out of line in her behavior, but it's a petty offense.
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Postby Condunum » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:35 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Really? How was what she did worse?


Violating the etiquette of a House Representative, talking out of turn, pointing a finger at another U.S. representative and calling him "insignificant" (doesn't matter if it's true or not, you don't do that). She's a psychotic bitch.

And you are blowing this way out of proportion.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:36 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Right.

All of the examples I listed violated etiquette.

Two involved talking out of turn.

Two involved false accusations.

He's a lying sack of shit.



They're all sacks of shit, Pelosi is just a bigger one.


Because she's a Democrat or because she's a woman?
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:37 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Really? How was what she did worse?


Violating the etiquette of a House Representative, talking out of turn, pointing a finger at another U.S. representative and calling him "insignificant" (doesn't matter if it's true or not, you don't do that). She's a psychotic bitch.

So, that's worse than, say, violating the etiquette of a House Representative, talking out of turn, and calling the President of the United States a liar...
I'm not seeing how.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:38 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
Condunum wrote:Any representative who doesn't have a badge on his sash that says "sponsored/authored/other a major bill" isn't much to shake a stick at. That's called a freshman rep, and they're basically a joke in the house until they prove themselves.


Doesn't matter, she's still being an ass.

Yes, she shouldn't have done what she did. No-one is denying this.
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