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Postby East Catalina » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:57 pm

Destrovia wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:What is there to explain? There is no one culture common to all "white" people.

Then there is no culture to unite any group of people. I can accept that there is no white culture if that other point is accepted.

Then why does Germany or Italy exist?
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Death Metal wrote:At any rate, it's not numbers of white people decreasing. It's just that other races are growing faster. "Whites are going extinct" is just neo-nazi propaganda with no basis in fact.


I think that Whites can go extinct and I'll explain how: the lower the percentage of White people there is in any given community, the harder it will be for Whites to meet other Whites. The result of course, will be intermixing until White skin becomes more recessive until it becomes rare. Past a certain point, there will be no reversing this. One of these days after I'm gone, it could be that White skin will disappear.

Skin color is polygenic, and anyways, all the rich people will be white, and rich people marry within the group.
And besides...there's at least a million people who agree with you out there. Plus, if white skin color exists as a phenotype it will never go extinct.
I dunno. White people are here with all human people till the day humanity goes extinct.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:58 pm

The Grim Reaper wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I think that Whites can go extinct and I'll explain how: the lower the percentage of White people there is in any given community, the harder it will be for Whites to meet other Whites. The result of course, will be intermixing until White skin becomes more recessive until it becomes rare. Past a certain point, there will be no reversing this. One of these days after I'm gone, it could be that White skin will disappear.


Skin colour is produced by a combination of different genes, it is impossible for 'white skin' to become recessive.


Both white and black skin phenotypes are dominate, if I recall.
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Postby Abariltir » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:58 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I think that Whites can go extinct and I'll explain how: the lower the percentage of White people there is in any given community, the harder it will be for Whites to meet other Whites. The result of course, will be intermixing until White skin becomes more recessive until it becomes rare. Past a certain point, there will be no reversing this. One of these days after I'm gone, it could be that White skin will disappear.

Who gives a fuck?
Other than the obvious answer of "mentally handicapped neo-nazis"?



Uhh... People with the natural evolutionary adaption of prefering one's own ethnicity. It is basic self preservation.

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:59 pm

Abariltir wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Who gives a fuck?
Other than the obvious answer of "mentally handicapped neo-nazis"?



Uhh... People with the natural evolutionary adaption of prefering one's own ethnicity. It is basic self preservation.

That isn't an actual thing. It just falls under my "other than".
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:59 pm

The Grim Reaper wrote:Skin colour is produced by a combination of different genes, it is impossible for 'white skin' to become recessive.


If there is a much larger gene pool for non-Whites numerically speaking than for Whites, it is common sense from my perspective that White skin would be more recessive than non-White traits.
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Postby East Catalina » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:59 pm

Abariltir wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Who gives a fuck?
Other than the obvious answer of "mentally handicapped neo-nazis"?



Uhh... People with the natural evolutionary adaption of prefering one's own ethnicity. It is basic self preservation.

Preserving an appearance, that is. And tell that to the potatoes.
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Postby Destrovia » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:00 pm

East Catalina wrote:
Destrovia wrote:Then there is no culture to unite any group of people. I can accept that there is no white culture if that other point is accepted.

Then why does Germany or Italy exist?

Because it is a union of people with similar ideals and historical background. White is a race, not a nationality. And I said I would accept white culture doesn't exist if my other point was accepted; and it honestly wasn't.

I have a bad feeling that I won't be too popular after all of this.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:00 pm

Saiwania wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:Skin colour is produced by a combination of different genes, it is impossible for 'white skin' to become recessive.


If there is a much larger gene pool for non-Whites numerically speaking than for Whites, it is common sense from my perspective that White skin would be more recessive than non-White traits.

No, it would be ignorance.
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Postby Margno » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:00 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Meryuma wrote:After all, no segment of American society is more known for its principled opposition to racist violence than the cops.

Yeah, I was gonna point this out myself.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:01 pm

Abariltir wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Who gives a fuck?
Other than the obvious answer of "mentally handicapped neo-nazis"?



Uhh... People with the natural evolutionary adaption of prefering one's own ethnicity. It is basic self preservation.


Likeness is a better term. People like people who look like themselves. However, I don't want to see such a primitive instinct like that to influence political policy.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:02 pm

Destrovia wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:There is no "white" culture.

Explain.

Icelandic culture and Italian culture are not the same, for instance.
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Postby Margno » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:02 pm

Gigaverse wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
You're also trolling. *** Warned for trolling ***

I don't see how that's trolling when I'm only stating exactly what I think is the solution.

Advocating the death of real people is against the rules.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:02 pm

Destrovia wrote:
East Catalina wrote:Then why does Germany or Italy exist?

Because it is a union of people with similar ideals and historical background. White is a race, not a nationality. And I said I would accept white culture doesn't exist if my other point was accepted; and it honestly wasn't.

I have a bad feeling that I won't be too popular after all of this.

His point was that "Germans" and "Italians" are both groups of people that exist and have a common culture...
You said "Then there is no culture to unite any group of people".
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:02 pm

Abariltir wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Who gives a fuck?
Other than the obvious answer of "mentally handicapped neo-nazis"?



Uhh... People with the natural evolutionary adaption of prefering one's own ethnicity. It is basic self preservation.


Nope, it's a social construction.

Your 'natural evolutionary adaption' is based on the survival of the fittest, which is a stupid name given the fact that natural selection isn't based on the fittest specimen, but the ones that embody those characteristics associated with fitness.

That's why peacock feathers are so popular with peahens even though they are a batfucking stupid idea for actually surviving. They represent having eaten well in early life and having the energy and fitness to offset that.

That's also why 'cultures', or groups of people societally isolated from others, have different preferences for skin colour, that change over time with the rise of globalization and with various stereotypes.

That's why geishas were considered beautiful wearing motherfucking chalkwhite masks, and why tanned white women are more popular than pasty women in the popular media, and why the preferred weight of a partner in Africa has changed from as large as possible to, slowly, more American opinions of proper weight.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:02 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:There is an obvious, pervasive racial element, when folks force black people to not use the building's lift used by the residents, or when someone is identified as criminal and kept there against evidence because the cops have to use somebody as an excuse for their poor job, but racism here is just used to legitimize class sentiment and enmity. It's not the kind of racism that fears difference, is the kind of racism that is an excuse to laugh at and profit from difference.

That's truly sad. Especially in such a racially diverse country like Brazil.

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Postby Margno » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:02 pm

Saiwania wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:Skin colour is produced by a combination of different genes, it is impossible for 'white skin' to become recessive.


If there is a much larger gene pool for non-Whites numerically speaking than for Whites, it is common sense from my perspective that White skin would be more recessive than non-White traits.

But, no. It's objectively not.
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Postby Gigaverse » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:03 pm

Margno wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:I don't see how that's trolling when I'm only stating exactly what I think is the solution.

Advocating the death of real people is against the rules.

I still believe that and trolling are two unrelated violations.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:03 pm

Margno wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
If there is a much larger gene pool for non-Whites numerically speaking than for Whites, it is common sense from my perspective that White skin would be more recessive than non-White traits.

But, no. It's objectively not.


Hang on, so it's not just about 2000 of the same Indian ethnicities anymore?

Now ALL non-whites are the same infectious plague?
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Postby East Catalina » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:03 pm

Destrovia wrote:
East Catalina wrote:Then why does Germany or Italy exist?

Because it is a union of people with similar ideals and historical background. White is a race, not a nationality. And I said I would accept white culture doesn't exist if my other point was accepted; and it honestly wasn't.

I have a bad feeling that I won't be too popular after all of this.

Okay then...
Yeah, NS isn't very receptive to the ideas of "white culture", nation, extinction etcetera.
Saiwania wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:Skin colour is produced by a combination of different genes, it is impossible for 'white skin' to become recessive.


If there is a much larger gene pool for non-Whites numerically speaking than for Whites, it is common sense from my perspective that White skin would be more recessive than non-White traits.

Can you map melanin content on a Punnett Square for me, please?
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Postby East Catalina » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:05 pm

The Grim Reaper wrote:
Abariltir wrote:

Uhh... People with the natural evolutionary adaption of prefering one's own ethnicity. It is basic self preservation.


Nope, it's a social construction.

Your 'natural evolutionary adaption' is based on the survival of the fittest, which is a stupid name given the fact that natural selection isn't based on the fittest specimen, but the ones that embody those characteristics associated with fitness.

That's why peacock feathers are so popular with peahens even though they are a batfucking stupid idea for actually surviving. They represent having eaten well in early life and having the energy and fitness to offset that.

That's also why 'cultures', or groups of people societally isolated from others, have different preferences for skin colour, that change over time with the rise of globalization and with various stereotypes.

That's why geishas were considered beautiful wearing motherfucking chalkwhite masks, and why tanned white women are more popular than pasty women in the popular media, and why the preferred weight of a partner in Africa has changed from as large as possible to, slowly, more American opinions of proper weight.

Wait, in Africa a huge woman used to be hot?
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Former colony of Spain (1547-1898) and the United States (1898-1946 in the East; 1898-1953 in the West) which underwent a civil war (1946-86) and is now recovering
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:05 pm

Gigaverse wrote:
Margno wrote:Advocating the death of real people is against the rules.

I still believe that and trolling are two unrelated violations.


Don't fight it or you'll make yourself look worse than you already have.

Anyway...
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Postby Margno » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:05 pm

Destrovia wrote:
East Catalina wrote:Then why does Germany or Italy exist?

Because it is a union of people with similar ideals and historical background. White is a race, not a nationality. And I said I would accept white culture doesn't exist if my other point was accepted; and it honestly wasn't.

I have a bad feeling that I won't be too popular after all of this.

Destrovia, the reason there isn't a white culture is because white is a common set of physical characteristics, not a set of behaviors. Where are you from, if I may ask?
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Postby Margno » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:06 pm

Gigaverse wrote:
Margno wrote:Advocating the death of real people is against the rules.

I still believe that and trolling are two unrelated violations.

No, it's a subdivision under the mantel of trolling.
Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.
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Postby Abariltir » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:06 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Abariltir wrote:

Uhh... People with the natural evolutionary adaption of prefering one's own ethnicity. It is basic self preservation.

That isn't an actual thing. It just falls under my "other than".



Yes it is, it's basic psychology.
People tend to support the "in-group" they are part of. In fact being loved by your own ethnic group makes you more likely to exhibit racist behavior.
http://www.pnas.org/content/108/4/1262.full.pdf+html

It is all part of a sense of belonging to a specific culture or ethnicity. People who don't actually feel in touch with any part of their heritage tend to not understand how someone could be more ethno-centric

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