More than 100 hate-crime murders linked to single website

[Regnum Dominae]

I have to see this website, never heard of it.

You shouldn't, if you value your sanity.

[Greed and Death]

People charged with the murders of almost 100 people can be linked to a single far-right website, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

The White Nationalist web forum Stormfront.org says it promotes values of “the embattled white minority,” and its users include Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people in a 2011 massacre in Norway, and Wade Michael Page, who shot and killed six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012.

After a two-year investigation, the SPLC said (pdf) that since Stormfront became one of the first hate sites on the internet in 1995, its registered users have been disproportionately responsible for major killings. The report was released a month early after white supremacist Frazier Glenn Miller, also known as Frazier Glenn Cross, was accused of killing three people at a Jewish center in Kansas City on Sunday.

“We know that the people who are going to commit the kinds of crimes, like the kinds of crimes Miller committed last weekend, this is where they live,” said Heidi Beirich, report author and a director at the SPLC’s Intelligence Project. The report, released on Thursday, calls Stormfront the “largest hate site in the world” and “a magnet and breeding ground for the deadly and deranged.”

Of the site’s more than 286,000 users, only a small sliver are highly active, the report found, with fewer than 1,800 people logging in each day. While the SPLC only identified 10 murderers out of this large user base, researchers think the murderers’ connection to the site is important because it shows how the website offers a community for people who commit these crimes.

“It’s pretty clear that websites like Stormfront are breeding grounds for people who are just enraged at their situation, it’s there that people find the reasons their lives aren’t as they had hoped and Stormfront helps them find the enemy that is standing in their way – whether it be Jews, African Americans, immigrants and so on,” said Beirich. “Unfortunately it’s not very surprising that people who live in this kind of stew of violent racism eventually pick up a gun and do something about it at some point.”

Stormfront proudly declares that “every month is white history month” at the top of its site and forum discussions concern things such as the latest news stories, ideology, poetry and creative writing.

“The fact of the matter is that more people have been killed domestically by radical right extremists than Islamic extremists since 9/11 and where you find a lot of these people is on these sites,” said Beirich.

SPLC also identified 10 characteristics shared by killers who were active online including unemployment, posting on more than one hate website, and sustained activity on these sites.

Stormfront founder Don Black, a former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, criticized Miller for giving users of his site a bad reputation. “We have enough of a problem with how we are portrayed without some homicidal whack job coming along and reinforcing that,” Black told the Daily Beast. After he was banned from Stormfront, the SLPC said Miller posted more than 12,000 times on a similar forum, Vanguard News Network, whose slogan is “No Jews, Just Right.”

The SPLC’s report said hate killings skyrocketed after Barack Obama was inaugurated in 2009.

“We have seen and documented at the SPLC an enormous growth of groups on the radical right, particularly in the last five years,” said Mark Potok, the report’s editor and a senior fellow on the Intelligence Project. “That growth quite clearly seems to be driven by the appearance of Barack Obama on the political scene in the fall of 2008 and of course his subsequent election.”

Potok noted that these hate sites are protected by first amendment rights because they don’t contain concrete plots to commit crimes. He said that law enforcement official unquestionably pay attention to these sites, but criticized how much analysis is done on users by federal authorities.

“We feel pretty strongly that the Department of Homeland Security, which is the lead agency in this country for developing intelligence about these groups and individuals, has more or less taken its eye of the ball in the sense that since 2009 the department seems more focused on Jihadists terrorism,” Potok said.

So, NSG, what do you think should be done now that we have this information?
Personally, I think the place should be shut down, though no before getting the RL identities of as many of their users as possible and adding them all to the terror watch list...

I think we should spam their board with interracial gay porn.

[Buddha Punk Robot Monks]

The solution isn't to shut them down, just monitor them more closely.

If you shut them down, they'll always find ways to reconnect.

[Orla]

The people on Stormfront are usually racist white trash, they are intolerant, racist, sexist, and homophobic. It's best we just delete the site.

[Seaxeland]

They could easily open another website.

Shut them all down.

For once, we agree on something.

Any website advocating hate should be shut down.

[Estado Paulista]

Stormfront is pretty fucked, I used to post in their opposing views forum but stopped after the admins their ip tracked this other opposition poster who lived just a town away from me, he ended up getting beaten up in real life after the admins posted his address. Bunch of nutters.

Jesus fucking Christ.

[Wind in the Willows]

The people on Stormfront are usually racist white trash, they are intolerant, racist, sexist, and homophobic. It's best we just delete the site.

And you are calling them racist?

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Only if they are involved in real-world crime.

I don't support banning Stormfront because of its hate speech. I support banning it because so many murders and hate crimes are linked to it.

If you ask me, it should be banned for both reasons. The less hateful content there is on the Internet, the less people will see it, the less people will follow it. Censoring extremism is the best way to help stop it. Sure, people have the right to voice opinions, but if those opinions cause damage to society then limits have to be set.

[Dejanic]

People charged with the murders of almost 100 people can be linked to a single far-right website, according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

The White Nationalist web forum Stormfront.org says it promotes values of “the embattled white minority,” and its users include Anders Behring Breivik, who killed 77 people in a 2011 massacre in Norway, and Wade Michael Page, who shot and killed six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012.

After a two-year investigation, the SPLC said (pdf) that since Stormfront became one of the first hate sites on the internet in 1995, its registered users have been disproportionately responsible for major killings. The report was released a month early after white supremacist Frazier Glenn Miller, also known as Frazier Glenn Cross, was accused of killing three people at a Jewish center in Kansas City on Sunday.

“We know that the people who are going to commit the kinds of crimes, like the kinds of crimes Miller committed last weekend, this is where they live,” said Heidi Beirich, report author and a director at the SPLC’s Intelligence Project. The report, released on Thursday, calls Stormfront the “largest hate site in the world” and “a magnet and breeding ground for the deadly and deranged.”

Of the site’s more than 286,000 users, only a small sliver are highly active, the report found, with fewer than 1,800 people logging in each day. While the SPLC only identified 10 murderers out of this large user base, researchers think the murderers’ connection to the site is important because it shows how the website offers a community for people who commit these crimes.

“It’s pretty clear that websites like Stormfront are breeding grounds for people who are just enraged at their situation, it’s there that people find the reasons their lives aren’t as they had hoped and Stormfront helps them find the enemy that is standing in their way – whether it be Jews, African Americans, immigrants and so on,” said Beirich. “Unfortunately it’s not very surprising that people who live in this kind of stew of violent racism eventually pick up a gun and do something about it at some point.”

Stormfront proudly declares that “every month is white history month” at the top of its site and forum discussions concern things such as the latest news stories, ideology, poetry and creative writing.

“The fact of the matter is that more people have been killed domestically by radical right extremists than Islamic extremists since 9/11 and where you find a lot of these people is on these sites,” said Beirich.

SPLC also identified 10 characteristics shared by killers who were active online including unemployment, posting on more than one hate website, and sustained activity on these sites.

Stormfront founder Don Black, a former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, criticized Miller for giving users of his site a bad reputation. “We have enough of a problem with how we are portrayed without some homicidal whack job coming along and reinforcing that,” Black told the Daily Beast. After he was banned from Stormfront, the SLPC said Miller posted more than 12,000 times on a similar forum, Vanguard News Network, whose slogan is “No Jews, Just Right.”

The SPLC’s report said hate killings skyrocketed after Barack Obama was inaugurated in 2009.

“We have seen and documented at the SPLC an enormous growth of groups on the radical right, particularly in the last five years,” said Mark Potok, the report’s editor and a senior fellow on the Intelligence Project. “That growth quite clearly seems to be driven by the appearance of Barack Obama on the political scene in the fall of 2008 and of course his subsequent election.”

Potok noted that these hate sites are protected by first amendment rights because they don’t contain concrete plots to commit crimes. He said that law enforcement official unquestionably pay attention to these sites, but criticized how much analysis is done on users by federal authorities.

“We feel pretty strongly that the Department of Homeland Security, which is the lead agency in this country for developing intelligence about these groups and individuals, has more or less taken its eye of the ball in the sense that since 2009 the department seems more focused on Jihadists terrorism,” Potok said.

So, NSG, what do you think should be done now that we have this information?
Personally, I think the place should be shut down, though no before getting the RL identities of as many of their users as possible and adding them all to the terror watch list...

I think we should spam their board with interracial gay porn.

It's done quite a lot, it makes them genuinely mad. It's pretty easy to create diversions also though, like pretend to be a British nationalist and post their talking about how you hate Poles and Russians and you'll have half of Stormfront killing each other within half an hour.

[Scomagia]

Give validation to their persecution complex, that won't push them to violent action or anything.

They've demonstrated that they need no pushing to resort to violent action. Any who do should be treated as the criminals they are.

There's no sense in arbitrarily shutting down the site. If they have no place to talk to each other, they have no place to be monitored.

[Gigaverse]

Torture them all. Burn their houses. Hold their families hostages. Give them fates worse than death.

> I'm evil. Don't judge me.

[Orla]

Stormfront is pretty fucked, I used to post in their opposing views forum but stopped after the admins their ip tracked this other opposition poster who lived just a town away from me, he ended up getting beaten up in real life after the admins posted his address. Bunch of nutters.

A reason as to why these people should be silenced, bigotry should have no place.

[Orla]

Stormfront is pretty fucked, I used to post in their opposing views forum but stopped after the admins their ip tracked this other opposition poster who lived just a town away from me, he ended up getting beaten up in real life after the admins posted his address. Bunch of nutters.

Also, I am surprised those idiots even know how to use the internet, what with the 1990's forum design.

[Scomagia]

Stormfront is pretty fucked, I used to post in their opposing views forum but stopped after the admins their ip tracked this other opposition poster who lived just a town away from me, he ended up getting beaten up in real life after the admins posted his address. Bunch of nutters.

A reason as to why these people should be silenced, bigotry should have no place.

While we're at it, who else should we silence?

[Geilinor]

They've demonstrated that they need no pushing to resort to violent action. Any who do should be treated as the criminals they are.

There's no sense in arbitrarily shutting down the site. If they have no place to talk to each other, they have no place to be monitored.

If the SPLC could find out this much information, I'm sure the police will be able to find enough information to have a go at them.

[Arumdaum]

Stormfront is pretty fucked, I used to post in their opposing views forum but stopped after the admins their ip tracked this other opposition poster who lived just a town away from me, he ended up getting beaten up in real life after the admins posted his address. Bunch of nutters.

And what about the Fascists that have been beaten up as a result of their addresses being posted on leftists boards?

Except that doesn't happen.

[Wind in the Willows]

Stormfront is pretty fucked, I used to post in their opposing views forum but stopped after the admins their ip tracked this other opposition poster who lived just a town away from me, he ended up getting beaten up in real life after the admins posted his address. Bunch of nutters.

A reason as to why these people should be silenced, bigotry should have no place.

Yeah, let's just silence you while we are at it.

[Buddha Punk Robot Monks]

I think we should spam their board with interracial gay porn.

It's done quite a lot, it makes them genuinely mad. It's pretty easy to create diversions also though, like pretend to be a British nationalist and post their talking about how you hate Poles and Russians and you'll have half of Stormfront killing each other within half an hour.

Irish nationalists are also fun to work with as well.

[Dyakovo]

The people on Stormfront are usually racist white trash, they are intolerant, racist, sexist, and homophobic. It's best we just delete the site.

And you are calling them racist?

He's calling white trash that are racist, racist...

[Orla]

A reason as to why these people should be silenced, bigotry should have no place.

Yeah, let's just silence you while we are at it.

So, you support their message of hate, I presume?

[Wind in the Willows]

Yeah, let's just silence you while we are at it.

So, you support their message of hate, I presume?

No, but they should not be silenced for their views.

[Geilinor]

A reason as to why these people should be silenced, bigotry should have no place.

Yeah, let's just silence you while we are at it.

That website is disproportionately populated by murderers and I wouldn't be surprised if violent activity was planned on that site.

[Orla]

The people on Stormfront are usually racist white trash, they are intolerant, racist, sexist, and homophobic. It's best we just delete the site.

And you are calling them racist?

White people =/= White trash

[Dyakovo]

They've demonstrated that they need no pushing to resort to violent action. Any who do should be treated as the criminals they are.

There's no sense in arbitrarily shutting down the site. If they have no place to talk to each other, they have no place to be monitored.

There's nothing arbitrary about shutting down a site that has been linked to numerous hate crimes.

[Geilinor]

So, you support their message of hate, I presume?

No, but they should not silenced for their views.

Which "views"? All minorities should die?