Thoricia wrote:Omnicrest wrote:I fully agree!
People often seem to forget that one can be a pedophile, yet restrain themselves to never act on it. I mean, in an ideal world no one would even have these urges, true. But some people ARE born with them, and we should be supportive of their struggle to restrain themselves and be good, upstanding citizens. They're already fighting against nature, they don't need to be fighting against people too. I mean, if you punish someone for having an urge, even a repulsive urge, that's a start down a really bad path of Big Brother and thoughtcrime.
This ties back into the "all pedophiles actions are innocent' argument" when they are clearly not not all pedophiles think that their thoughts are horrendous, my proof is when these people offend, obviously they couldn't control there actions or they really weren'tfighting against themselves in the first placeTekania wrote:Thoricia wrote:I grow tired of this argument, I have already argued it before, you need to go back and read the entire thread, as I have already shown evidence of these "Clear indicators" otherwise known as a pattern of behavior which has been my standpoint from almost the begining read up then get back to me after you have and see if you still think you standpoint holds any water
There is no such thing as "clear indicators"... They do not exist... They are manufactured by quack sociology attempting to pass itself off as hard-science... Sociology cannot make any CLEAR definitive claims, as sociology (including psychiatry and psychology) are soft sciences...
So you advocate the use of psycology to help these people but when its used in a rebuttal you say its not true? Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, where is your evidence backing up your claim this sounds like just in opinion to me
I am not saying every pedophile is a saint, I am saying you cannot punish someone for what they MIGHT do. Even worse, is trying to punish someone for something they think or feel. If you need a reason why, read 1984. If you punish people for what they think or feel, that's the kind of system you're encouraging. A system of thoughtcrimes and thought police and Big Brother always keeping an eye open for us to think things he doesn't like.
A pedophile is someone born with urges, if they chose to cave to those urges and hurt people, we punish them. If they want to seek help and try to overcome these urges, we should HELP them, and SUPPORT them. Not wait outside their therapist's office with nooses, torches and pitchforks. Treating pedophiles who genuinely seek help in such a way only encourages them to NOT seek help which INCREASES their chances of molesting a child. You might as well be saying "Well, if you're a pedophile, we're going to make your life hell either way, so you might as well molest a child and get something out of the deal."
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