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by Blackhammer » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:40 am
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by Dyakovo » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:41 am
Blackhammer wrote:After reading through this thread, I have to ask...
Who cares? Who really cares whether Atheism is considered a faith or not?
And along with that, why does it really matter whether there is a God or not?
I mean, if there is, we can't change it.
If there isn't, we still can't change it.
We will never know for certain so it makes no sense to worry about it while you're alive.
This entire argument is the most arbitrary thing I've ever read.
by Risottia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:01 am
Blackhammer wrote:After reading through this thread, I have to ask...
Who cares? Who really cares whether Atheism is considered a faith or not?
by Gallup » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:54 am
by Conscentia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:40 am
Blackhammer wrote:After reading through this thread, I have to ask...
Who cares? Who really cares whether Atheism is considered a faith or not?
And along with that, why does it really matter whether there is a God or not?
I mean, if there is, we can't change it.
If there isn't, we still can't change it.
We will never know for certain so it makes no sense to worry about it while you're alive.
Blackhammer wrote:This entire argument is the most arbitrary thing I've ever read.
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by Czechanada » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:48 am
Conscentia wrote:Blackhammer wrote:After reading through this thread, I have to ask...
Who cares? Who really cares whether Atheism is considered a faith or not?
And along with that, why does it really matter whether there is a God or not?
I mean, if there is, we can't change it.
If there isn't, we still can't change it.
We will never know for certain so it makes no sense to worry about it while you're alive.
Some of us like to debate & learn things. Weird right.Blackhammer wrote:This entire argument is the most arbitrary thing I've ever read.
I don't think you're using "arbitrary" correctly.
by Blackhammer » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:50 am
Conscentia wrote:Blackhammer wrote:After reading through this thread, I have to ask...
Who cares? Who really cares whether Atheism is considered a faith or not?
And along with that, why does it really matter whether there is a God or not?
I mean, if there is, we can't change it.
If there isn't, we still can't change it.
We will never know for certain so it makes no sense to worry about it while you're alive.
Some of us like to debate & learn things. Weird right.Blackhammer wrote:This entire argument is the most arbitrary thing I've ever read.
I don't think you're using "arbitrary" correctly.
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by Conscentia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:51 am
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by Vashta Nerada » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:29 am
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by Sun Wukong » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:44 am
by Stovokor » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:47 am
Bolgo wrote:Well, the definition of faith,
''complete trust or confidence in someone or something.''
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
Atheism is complete trust in the fact there is no God.
''strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.''
There is no proof that there is no God, so it requires faith to believe that. Religion is belief in something, so Atheism is a religion.
What do you guys think?
by Dorrod Muth » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:55 am
Czechanada wrote:
"He has a wife, you know. Her name is Incontinentia... Pants.
by Conscentia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:57 am
Dorrod Muth wrote:Czechanada wrote:
"He has a wife, you know. Her name is Incontinentia... Pants.
I believe her name was incontinentia bucket
The problem with an argument like this, is that it will simply go in circles
It's a bit of a logical paradox, though ignoring philosophical thought and for practical use, Atheism is not a faith. Atheism is to not believe in any form of deity, and though logical is therefore a faith (a faith in not having a faith) in terms of human common sense, it's just not believing in a god.
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by Rabbi Alex Jones » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:39 am
by Agorapolis » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:04 pm
Rabbi Alex Jones wrote:Who cares? Keep your views to yourself don't force it on anyone.
I mean basically if I need to defecate it is my own business, I will do it in my own toilet, with my own privacy, in my own house, thankyou very much. Same with religion, if you need to believe in shit whatever it may be. Do it in your own brain, privately, in your own house, and do not force everyone else to hear your shit. I have no desire to watch other people shitting in my own toilet, nor do I have any desire hearing people shitting their religious beliefs at me via verbal diarrhea.
by Risottia » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:05 pm
NSP wrote:If atheism is a religion than a tyrant can force civil rights on people
by Grave_n_idle » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:32 pm
Federated Terran States wrote:On the contrary, the lack of evidence IS, itself, evidence of absence.
While I largely agree with you I feel that I should point out one thing.
The axiom you quoted actually meant the opposite of your intention; the original axiom stated that the absence of evidence is not the same as the evidence of absence (The lack of proof is not the proof of lack.)
by Grave_n_idle » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:34 pm
Conscentia wrote:Federated Terran States wrote:
While I largely agree with you I feel that I should point out one thing.
The axiom you quoted actually meant the opposite of your intention; the original axiom stated that the absence of evidence is not the same as the evidence of absence (The lack of proof is not the proof of lack.)
Clearly s/he does not agree with the original axiom.
by Retired WerePenguins » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:54 pm
by Blazedtown » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:33 pm
Bolgo wrote:Well, the definition of faith,
''complete trust or confidence in someone or something.''
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
Atheism is complete trust in the fact there is no God.
''strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.''
There is no proof that there is no God, so it requires faith to believe that. Religion is belief in something, so Atheism is a religion.
What do you guys think?
by Greater Beggnig » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:11 pm
NSP wrote:If atheism is a religion than a tyrant can force civil rights on people
by Seshephe » Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:25 pm
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