Anti-LGBTI Hate Group Persecuting Trans Minor

[Liriena]

I think you left out some qualifiers. Shouldn't it be "a common elitist, heterosexual gay, militant pacifist, Reformed Christian atheist"?

And probably a communist monarchist, as well. And some other adjectives too, to make him more interesting.

Nobamabot Jewlluminazi. *nod*

[Tekania]

Indeed, lol..... If I needed open heart surgery I believe I would take the "opinion" of a cardiologist over that of my plumber.

So you're an elitist heterosexual gay Christian Reformed Militant Atheist...

An elitist imperialist self-deterministic treasonist patriotic veteran heterosexual gay Christian Reformed militant atheist.

This is getting really complicated. I might have to make up a whole new -ist just to cover it.

[Tekania]

I think you left out some qualifiers. Shouldn't it be "a common elitist, heterosexual gay, militant pacifist, Reformed Christian atheist"?

And probably a communist monarchist, as well. And some other adjectives too, to make him more interesting.

Yeah maybe democratic imperialist communist monarchist added in there.

[Dyakovo]

So you're an elitist heterosexual gay Christian Reformed Militant Atheist...

An elitist imperialist self-deterministic treasonist patriotic veteran heterosexual gay Christian Reformed militant atheist.

This is getting really complicated. I might have to make up a whole new -ist just to cover it.

Tekanist.
*nods*

[Grenartia]

Lock the student up or ban him from the School systems.

HER, and there's no legitimate reason to do so, contrary to what you've been mislead into believing.

Look I am on here to call the dissenting opinion. I hate gays. They are a menace to society. W
They shouldn't have equal rights. They have more rights than normal people. Now before you all rip into me let me just say i know this isn't popular but gays should not be given equal rights. It is wrong. Bullying is wrong but we can not and should not give gays more rights than straight people.

1. Yes, they are constantly infecting everything with their 2. disgusting culture and mannerisms, that is how they are a menace to society. 3. They also take tradition and smash it to the ground by 4. teaching their adopted children that it is 'okay' to have two Homosexual parents, revolting.

1. Sounds like a load of conspiracy theory bullshit to me.

2. You haven't really proven anything. Besides, better than the regressive bullshit we get from the anti-LGBT crowd.

3. Appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy. Just because something is "tradition" doesn't mean its inherently a good thing. Some traditions are shitty, oppressive, impractical, or some combination thereof, and should rightfully be tossed in the garbage can. However, no traditions are being harmed by LGBT equality.

4. I fail to see what the problem with giving parentless children good, loving homes.

For what? Being transgender?

Do me a favour and re-read what you just posted.

Making 'sexual' comments at the women in the Restroom? That should be subject to ban. If there was a gay kid that got the fuck beat out of him for being gay, then I would understand stick up for the boy, but this bastard was a disgusting sexual cretin.

Except nothing like that happened at all. You've been severely mislead.

Your source is lying its ass off. Congratulations.

Defend Daughter? Lolno, defends son. It's a man, not a woman.

No. Daughter. She's a girl.

Also, you utterly failed to actually refute the claim that your source was lying its ass off. Stop using shitty debate tactics and at least attempt to be intellectually honest.

I think he should be able to go to school but he shouldn't be allowed in the Women's Restroom, as he isn't a woman. He MAY look like a woman but he is not one, Transformations don't change us, just our appearance.

She IS a woman, because she identifies as such.

Sex is NOT gender. Besides, she'll be safer in the women's room than the men's room.

She's a MtF transgender woman. I kindly suggest that you don't misgender people. It's impolite


What part of "your source is lyings its ass off" didn't you understand?

The organs are that of man, just as if a woman became a man, it would still be a 'sir'.

That's sex, not gender. Also, "it" (and misgendering) is dehumanizing. Stop dehumanizing people.

It never ceases to amaze me that some people think that having people of different sexes in the same room inevitably leads to rape.

In a restroom, with both genders in there, rape is most likely inevitable.

Ignoring the sexist implications of your logic, that statement alone should be all the more reason why you shouldn't support sticking a transwoman in the men's room.

Unless you think rape is ok when its against people you don't like.

Anyone can get raped in a bathroom, regardless of gender.

True, but let's admit it, Homosexuals (unless they are pedophiles) are not prone to rape as much as straight men.

And transwomen are more prone to being raped (going by the statistics) than ciswomen (which is not at all my saying that ciswomen don't get raped, nor that ciswomen don't get raped that often, but rather transwomen get raped even more often than ciswomen). So by advocating for shoving transwomen in men's rooms, you're advocating for them to be raped even more than they already are (granted, you're most likely doing so unwittingly, but you're still doing it nonetheless).

1. Well thats what you get fore 2. defying God's wishes and 3. becoming a trans and toying with your gender. However, I do feel bad for that trans minor. 4. How can it know when it is 5. neither emotionally nor mentally mature enough to decide about its life? 6. What were its parents doing and how could they allow such a blasphemy? 7. BTW, what happened to the anti-LGBT. I guess they should be banned and thrown in jail for this. 8. And the trans to a rehabilitation centre and its parent to a parental class.

1. Victim blaming is shitty and dehumanizing. Then again, you're victim blaming, so I doubt you give half a shit.

2. Except its not.

3. She didn't choose to be trans, and she isn't "toying" with her gender.

4. "It" is fucking dehumanizing. "It" REFERS TO THINGS AND IDEAS, NOT PEOPLE.

5. You have no clue how many transgender people realize or have clues about the reality of their gender at an early age, do you?

6. Her parents were being responsible and making sure their daughter will grow up into a happier, better-adjusted person. Because there's this thing, science, specifically, psychology, that has proven that repressing these types of things is never a good thing for one's mental health.

7. No. You and the other anti-LGBT types need to be educated.

8. You know, they tried doing that before. Such actions only led to more transgender suicides (which is really saying something, considering that things are better for transgender people than they were back then, and the CURRENT attempted suicide rate for transgender people is 40%, compared to 1% for the general population).

Don't call trans people "it." It's dehumanizing and insulting, and the mods have ruled that it's trolling/flamebaiting.

1. Then, what should I call them?

You do know that God made Trans* people have the same brain structure as other people of their chosen gender, rather than physical sex. Clearly, this could only be because He intended them to transition. Maybe it's a test, to see if they can get past these people who want to stop them and become who God intended them to be.

2. What the hell, no not at all.

1. Preferably, whatever their preferred pronoun is, though you seem to have no problem using the underlined word.

2. How do you know?

Who are you to claim to know your YHWH's wishes?


You are or are not trans. You just don't become one.

Stop using "it". It's dehumanizing


Blasphemy according to whom?



What? Why?

1. This is common sense. God either makes you a male or female. He never expects males to turn females or vice versa.

2. Wait there, Trans people are like who are born male or female but they change their gender because they are fed up with their original gender. I am not wrong, am I?

3. If I use "they", I will be violating the rules of English grammar. "They" is a plural pronoun and in question there is just one person.

4. According to me.

5. Because that person is in need of intense care to be relived of the trauma "they" has suffered and the parents are certainly a failure.

1. Ignoring the facts that you're talking about sex when you clearly mean gender, and that there's more than two genders, how do you know God didn't intend for some people to be transgender?

2. No. Transgender people are people who have a gender different than that commonly associated with their sex (and yes, there is, in fact, a difference between sex and gender).

3. No, its not. "They" has perfectly legitimate historical usage as a singular pronoun.

4. And according to me, its not blasphemy.

5. Except, denying them the ability to transition only makes things WORSE (again, there were higher transgender suicide rates in the past than today's absolutely horrific suicide statistics). And any parent who unconditionally loves and supports (unless they're doing something that deprives others of their reasonable rights without informed consent) their children is not a failure, but a success.

You ask that to God. 1. I just know that God don't like LGBTs. 2. Its in the Bible and since you folks keep on shouting source, source and source, here you go: http://christianity.about.com/od/Bible- ... uality.htm

1. Not true.

2. Actually, those verses are all misinterpreted, mistranslated, or taken out of context.

Read.

I've already read your article. It doesn't change the fact that this mental disorder should be treated like anything else and the person should be treated according to reality and not have their delusions enabled. They SHOULD receive therapy - I agree. But that therapy should be to repair their malfunctioning brains and minds and make them comprehend what they actually are so they can get on with their lives, not chopping them up and drugging them to conform to their delusion.

-NDVK

Except we tried that. More transgender people killed themselves, and they had a generally worse quality of life than they currently do today (which is really saying something).

You're basically advocating that instead of using the best treatment we've thus far found, we go back to using one that is shitty. Do you also think that instead of giving prosthetics to people with amputated/missing limbs, we should go back to slapping them on the forehead and telling them that if they believe hard enough, God will make their limbs grow back?

and concluded that, based on the evidence, the most desirable results are obtained through transitioning from an assigned gender to one's actual gender?

In their opinion.

1. The fact that they were taught at (lefist) universities by professors with (lefist) opinions about how society should operate, and factored that into their medical research, 2. does not make it a more valid opinion on what SHOULD be done. The doctors know more than I about how the body works, but not what's the best course of action. That's entirely a matter of opinion, and in my subjective opinion, it's better to treat to normalcy, no matter what, just like in the AMA's subjective opinion, it's better to enable people's delusions for the sake of political correctness.

-NDVK

1. Typical conspiracy theorist tactic. When science disagrees, claim its biased research, even though the degree of bias necessary means absolutely lying about everything. Never mind the fact that its science, which means that any hypothesis is testable, repeatable, and can be proven or disproven. Science has only ONE bias. And that's for the truth. Just because you don't agree with something that's been proven by science, doesn't make science wrong. You sound JUST like the Flat Earthers.

2. That's why we have this thing called ethics. And by any reasonable ethical system, the current methods of dealing with transgenderism are the best ones.

[Linux and the X]

Perhaps we should simply build a third bathroom. Two bathrooms for normal people and a third for those freaks who are interested in the genitals of other people who need to use the bathroom.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Perhaps we should simply build a third bathroom. Two bathrooms for normal people and a third for those freaks who are interested in the genitals of other people who need to use the bathroom.

"Damas" (ladies)
"Cavalheiros" (chivalry)
"Mocinhas e rapazinhos" (little good girls and boys) (this fourth one would be more carefully monitored with cameras, and urinals would have tallers)
"Caras que curtem" (dudes that enjoy it) + "outrxs/gênero-neutro/unisex" (others/gender-neutral/unisex)

I honestly find this idea DA HORA!

Please don't take it as offense, folks, common and discrete male restrooms are informally used for gay cruising here already anyway.

[The Truth and Light]

Perhaps we should simply build a third bathroom. Two bathrooms for normal people and a third for those freaks who are interested in the genitals of other people who need to use the bathroom.

Perhaps we can disregard this proposal, on the grounds that your inaccurate language has revealed your lack of credibility on the matter.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Perhaps we should simply build a third bathroom. Two bathrooms for normal people and a third for those freaks who are interested in the genitals of other people who need to use the bathroom.

Perhaps we can disregard this proposal, on the grounds that your inaccurate language has revealed your lack of credibility on the matter.

Meh, the world is always going to have moralists and at least he isn't a transphobe/homophobe.

[The Truth and Light]

Perhaps we can disregard this proposal, on the grounds that your inaccurate language has revealed your lack of credibility on the matter.

Meh, the world is always going to have moralists and at least he isn't a transphobe/homophobe.

Not only do I think it's a silly idea, but I'm hard-pressed to take solutions from someone who refers to cis people as "the normal people". Sorry about it.

[Veceria]

Meh, the world is always going to have moralists and at least he isn't a transphobe/homophobe.

Not only do I think it's a silly idea, but I'm hard-pressed to take solutions from someone who refers to cis people as "the normal people". Sorry about it.

I think you misread what he wrote.

[The Truth and Light]

Not only do I think it's a silly idea, but I'm hard-pressed to take solutions from someone who refers to cis people as "the normal people". Sorry about it.

I think you misread what he wrote.

I did. I apologize. Ignore me.

[Republic of Trollandia]

Perhaps we should simply build a third bathroom. Two bathrooms for normal people and a third for those freaks who are interested in the genitals of other people who need to use the bathroom.

Misread.

[Veceria]

I think you misread what he wrote.

I did. I apologize. Ignore me.

I can't ignore the truth and light.

[Linux and the X]

I think you misread what he wrote.

I did. I apologize. Ignore me.

Quite alright. It is a silly idea.

[The Truth and Light]

I did. I apologize. Ignore me.

I can't ignore the truth and light.

But you must ignore Truthy, he jumped the gun when he misread a post. :b

I did. I apologize. Ignore me.

Quite alright. It is a silly idea.

It's a funny idea, looking back. We get to segregate creeps from the common bathrooms.

[Republic of Trollandia]

I can't ignore the truth and light.

But you must ignore Truthy, he jumped the gun when he misread a post. :b

Quite alright. It is a silly idea.

It's a funny idea, looking back. We get to segregate creeps from the common bathrooms.

Wow........so you want to escalate homophobia?

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

But you must ignore Truthy, he jumped the gun when he misread a post. :b


It's a funny idea, looking back. We get to segregate creeps from the common bathrooms.

Wow........so you want to escalate homophobia?

Even I can tell that was sarcasm.

[Republic of Trollandia]

Wow........so you want to escalate homophobia?

Even I can tell that was sarcasm.

Oops...........sorry.

[Veceria]

But you must ignore Truthy, he jumped the gun when he misread a post. :b


It's a funny idea, looking back. We get to segregate creeps from the common bathrooms.

Wow........so you want to escalate homophobia?

I don't think you understand what he meant. Linux wants to put those who want to get their genitals checked in a separate bathroom.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Wow........so you want to escalate homophobia?

I don't think you understand what he meant. Linux wants to put those who want to get their genitals checked in a separate bathroom.

It's an actually wit idea if we stop to think, depending on the local culture, to have a specific common queer and trans* space rather than a sole implicit trans*-centered space (trans* people are relatively rare, after all), and where gay cruising that might be regarded as creepy and inappropriate in the common restrooms isn't dealt with in an exaggerate manner be it by the one being checked out (generally face-to-face first) or by the responsible for the property and his/her employees.

Inadequate or unexpected gay cruising is a big reason for discomfort that builds inappropriate and biased ideas and images of us (and I mean the whole group of otherized sexual and gender minorities since ignorance is still huge in many parts of the world) and in some cases confrontation that sometimes ends up in brutality, so I can't say I don't commend attempts of diminishing this like such. Weirder it might seem to our contemporary values.

[Dusk_Kittens]

I just find the idea of sexualizing restrooms somewhat unusual. When I'm in a restroom, sexual intimacy is the last thing on my mind. Am I strange for this? Do other people become titillated upon crossing the threshold into the powder room? Really, the thought of getting frisky doesn't occur to me. Bear in mind, I'm a bisexual woman, so me being in the ladies' restroom is apparently entirely acceptable to everyone who has voiced any opinion on this question, simply because of my body parts, but I am attracted to other women -- just not so much in the restroom. I mean, really, I can't imagine sex in such an environment would be very sanitary.

[The Truth and Light]

I just find the idea of sexualizing restrooms somewhat unusual. When I'm in a restroom, sexual intimacy is the last thing on my mind. Am I strange for this? Do other people become titillated upon crossing the threshold into the powder room? Really, the thought of getting frisky doesn't occur to me. Bear in mind, I'm a bisexual woman, so me being in the ladies' restroom is apparently entirely acceptable to everyone who has voiced any opinion on this question, simply because of my body parts, but I am attracted to other women -- just not so much in the restroom. I mean, really, I can't imagine sex in such an environment would be very sanitary.

Oh lawd, I don't get it either. Bathrooms are the least sexual place I can think of. They connect directly to sewers and are essentially walk-in waste receptacles. Yuck.

[Dusk_Kittens]

I just find the idea of sexualizing restrooms somewhat unusual. When I'm in a restroom, sexual intimacy is the last thing on my mind. Am I strange for this? Do other people become titillated upon crossing the threshold into the powder room? Really, the thought of getting frisky doesn't occur to me. Bear in mind, I'm a bisexual woman, so me being in the ladies' restroom is apparently entirely acceptable to everyone who has voiced any opinion on this question, simply because of my body parts, but I am attracted to other women -- just not so much in the restroom. I mean, really, I can't imagine sex in such an environment would be very sanitary.

Oh lawd, I don't get it either. Bathrooms are the least sexual place I can think of. They connect directly to sewers and are essentially walk-in waste receptacles. Yuck.

Exactly.

[Dusk_Kittens]

Ah, well.

Here's something else worth considering in all of this:
http://www.glaad.org/blog/california-an ... protection