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Postby Lost heros » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:12 pm

Tatooene wrote:Neither creationism or evolution can be proved or disproved, so why should we not have schools teaching both of the theories? It would be terribly close-minded to take either one of them out of the classroom.

Evolution has a factual basis. Creationism doesn't. If I believed that the earth was created by a sock puppet would you teach that in school.
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Postby Sensorland » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:13 pm

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What's wrong with putting it into a history or religious studies class? It cannot be in a science class because it isn't science.

So it doesn't have to be in science, but it deserves to be taught in school, either way.
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Postby Need a Name » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:13 pm

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It is a step towards Texas becoming more Godly, which is good.


Breaking the line between church and state isn't good.


Why?
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Postby Lydenburg » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:13 pm

Sigh....why can't we discuss this latest foolishness without bringing the same tired old creationism/evolution 'scientific' debate into this? Don't you people ever get tired of having to repeat the same shyte again and again?

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Postby Rand al Thor » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:13 pm

Texas is full of genocidal maniacs, what's new? Oh they want to teach their kids to be genocidal maniacs? Sorry but Christians have already been doing that for years, see the Holocaust or Bosnian Genocide for some good examples. I hope this brings on prosecution of those trying to implement these books

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Postby Edlichbury » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:13 pm

Sensorland wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:What's wrong with putting it into a history or religious studies class? It cannot be in a science class because it isn't science.

So it doesn't have to be in science, but it deserves to be taught in school, either way.

What makes it more relevant than Japanese, Egyptian, Chinese, or Babylonian creation stories?

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Postby Shaggai » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:13 pm

Pavlostani wrote:
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It is a step towards Texas becoming more Godly, which is good.


No. It really isn't.


I don't know about you guys, but I'd be perfectly fine with Nuclear Fist's version of creationism:

And on the 1st day, Fist pulled himself out of the abyss. He them proceeded to violently sodomize the abyss, and the big bang happened. God came out 9 months later, and Fist taught his son how to create a universe. It was pretty bad for a first try, but it had hookers and blow. So Fist kept it anyway.

Wait... I thought TNF was Azathoth. That isn't how Azathoth did it. Something is wrong here.
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Postby The Holy NeoSpanish Empire » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:13 pm

if you want to be lied by the demon and serve him i let you do it atheists but us catholics we arent going to do it

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Postby Cu Math » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:13 pm

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Creationism has no valid evidence. It's pointless and time consuming to teach all these different theories when the correct one is right in front of us.


Sixty years ago, you might have been saying somewhere in the Bible Belt,

"Evolution has no valid evidence. It's pointless and time consuming to teach all these different theories when the correct one is right in front of us."

You see what happens when we talk in absolutes?

In that case, the earth was also made from Ymir, a Cosmic Egg, Ra's Parents, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Gaia, and two people with a spear and a tree. After all, no absolutes.
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Postby Agritum » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:14 pm

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Breaking the line between church and state isn't good.


Why?

Because it leads to religious favouritism and eventually Theocracy?

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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:14 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
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Creationism has no valid evidence. It's pointless and time consuming to teach all these different theories when the correct one is right in front of us.


Sixty years ago, you might have been saying somewhere in the Bible Belt,

"Evolution has no valid evidence. It's pointless and time consuming to teach all these different theories when the correct one is right in front of us."

You see what happens when we talk in absolutes?

The difference being, The Theory of Evolution via Natural Selection is a Scientific Theory, where as creationism/intelligent design is not even a hypothesis.
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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:14 pm

Lydenburg wrote:Sigh....why can't we discuss this latest foolishness without bringing the same tired old creationism/evolution 'scientific' debate into this? Don't you people ever get tired of having to repeat the same shyte again and again?

Yes, I do get sick of posting the same list over and over again while creationists refuse to read it. Doesn't stop me.

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Postby Edlichbury » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:14 pm

Cu Math wrote:
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Sixty years ago, you might have been saying somewhere in the Bible Belt,

"Evolution has no valid evidence. It's pointless and time consuming to teach all these different theories when the correct one is right in front of us."

You see what happens when we talk in absolutes?

In that case, the earth was also made from Ymir, a Cosmic Egg, Ra's Parents, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Gaia, and two people with a spear and a tree. After all, no absolutes.

You forgot a dead she-serpent.

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Postby Kingdoms of Cal » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:14 pm

Let's get one thing straight, scientific method is just that a methord.

Not a belief in anything

If via scientific method we discovered God exists then we would accept that. Thus far evidence has been hearsay or not reproducably and has yet to be falsifiable.
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Postby Pavlostani » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:14 pm

Need a name wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Breaking the line between church and state isn't good.


Why?


Historically, as nations become more theocratic, the following happens:

Crusades, Inquisitions, murders, Jihads, genocides, more murders, suppression of free speech, denial of reason, more murders, racism, homophobia, more murders, assassinations (also known as murders), and various other nasty shit.
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Postby Need a Name » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:14 pm

Agritum wrote:
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Why?

Because it leads to religious favouritism and eventually Theocracy?


Why is a Theocracy bad?
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:15 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:if you want to be lied by the demon and serve him i let you do it atheists but us catholics we arent going to do it

How can atheists want to serve the demon (you mean the devil?) if they don't believe in demons and devils?
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Postby Lost heros » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:15 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:if you want to be lied by the demon and serve him i let you do it atheists but us catholics we arent going to do it

Are you Catholics also going to ignore logic and grammar?
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Postby Aequalitia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:15 pm

Wait...what for bad idea is this?

Texas, go separate between church and state, and please do not add religion into education :palm:
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Postby Divair » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:15 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:
The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:if you want to be lied by the demon and serve him i let you do it atheists but us catholics we arent going to do it

How can atheists want to serve the demon (you mean the devil?) if they don't believe in demons and devils?

More important question:
Why are you even bothering?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:15 pm

Need a name wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Breaking the line between church and state isn't good.


Why?


Having a religious test to be in government is a very bad idea.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:15 pm

Need a name wrote:
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Breaking the line between church and state isn't good.


Why?


Separation of church and state. Once you start breaching that line, you slowly descend into a Theocracy, which even a Christian like you must admit that's bad.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:16 pm

The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:if you want to be lied by the demon and serve him i let you do it atheists but us catholics we arent going to do it

The catholic church has admitted for quite a while now that evolution is real...
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Postby Sensorland » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:16 pm

I can't look at each tree, every one different, each plant, each snowflake, each fingerprint, all different and truly think to myself, "This was an accident. All a coincidence." I choose to believe in creationism, because I have enough proof right here. If the State can't educate people on views besides evolution, then the world is in trouble.
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