Christianity and Homosexuality

[Mhema the Strong]

I think you're exaggerating. And anyways, prove that I am wrong. Your little aruguements really aren't and proof or anything. I want REAL proof. Not theories, not ideas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_ ... tive_proof

You trust wikipedia?

Do you have any argument that goes against theirs, or are you going to continue to pedantically dismiss his source?

People change things on Wikipedia.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

You trust wikipedia?

It's logical argument, Einstein. You don't need evidence to evaluate a purely logical argument, you just need a functional cerebral cortex.

[New Kereptica]

I think you're exaggerating. And anyways, prove that I am wrong. Your little aruguements really aren't and proof or anything. I want REAL proof. Not theories, not ideas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_ ... tive_proof

You trust wikipedia?

Do you have any argument that goes against theirs, or are you going to continue to pedantically dismiss his source?

People change things on Wikipedia.

Are you aware that it is as accurate as Encyclopedia Britannica?

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

People change things on Wikipedia.

And if I were using it as a source for scientific claims, political or historical events, or likewise, it could be considered questionable. However, I'm using it as an explanation of something in pure logic. The only way to dismiss what is said on that page is to reject logic itself.

[Mhema the Strong]

People change things on Wikipedia.

And if I were using it as a source for scientific claims, political or historical events, or likewise, it could be considered questionable. However, I'm using it as an explanation of something in pure logic. The only way to dismiss what is said on that page is to reject logic itself.

So you believe in the whole revelutionism idea?

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

So you believe in the whole revelutionism idea?

The what?

[Mhema the Strong]

So you believe in the whole revelutionism idea?

The what?

The whole "How the Earth was made" and "We descended from Gorillas!" theory? Don't yell at me! It's a scienctific idea that is somehow "proven in many cases."

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

The whole "How the Earth was made" and "We descended from Gorillas!" theory? Don't yell at me! It's a scienctific idea that is somehow "proven in many cases."

What the hell is "revelutionism"? I have never heard of that.

Also, no respected scientist has ever said we descended from gorillas. If you think that's what evolution (which I'm presuming is what you're actually talking about) says, then you need to actually read a book on what evolution really says.

[Exilia and Colonies]

People change things on Wikipedia.

And if I were using it as a source for scientific claims, political or historical events, or likewise, it could be considered questionable. However, I'm using it as an explanation of something in pure logic. The only way to dismiss what is said on that page is to reject logic itself.

So you believe in the whole revelutionism idea?

I'm not seeing how this is relevant to the point of Wikipedia's accuracy as a descriptor of basic logic

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

I'm not seeing how this is relevant to the point of Wikipedia's accuracy as a descriptor of basic logic

It's called a red herring. So no, you're right, it has nothing to do with it.

[Dyakovo]

Nope. You're the one making extraordinary claims (original sin being only one of them). It's your responsibility to provide evidence, not mine.

I'm not making extraordinary claims, I'm just telling you what God is saying. Prove he is wrong if you can.[/quote]
You mean other than the whole extraordinary claim that your magical sky faerie exists?

[Dyakovo]

Pick one, they all say the same thing.

No they don't.

Prove It

Done

[Dyakovo]

I don't have time to read all that, pick out something you want to focus on.

Here ya go...

[Dyakovo]

Yeah-people take the time to write something down that is WRONG from w-a-y back then. It wasn't exactly easy to record something. I'm sure if they wrote something down, it was the truth. Religion is not superstition.

So the koran is true as well, right?

No, that's not right, because the Koran doesn't believe in him being the Christ.

The Qu'ran fits the criteria that Mhema laid out as to how to tell if it is true.

[Dyakovo]

Yeah-people take the time to write something down that is WRONG from w-a-y back then. It wasn't exactly easy to record something. I'm sure if they wrote something down, it was the truth. Religion is not superstition.

So the koran is true as well, right?

Haven't I already answered this?!

No.

[Dyakovo]

What is it with you and false dichotomies. Do you honestly think that "It's 100% accurate." and "They lied." are the only options?

He's about right. No historical document should be believed without other supporting documents.

In before someone tries to argue an exception for the bible.

No, that's not right, because the Koran doesn't believe in him being the Christ.

Every argument he has made can be used just as easily to support Islam as it can to support Christianity. All one needs to do is replace every instance of "bible" with "koran". If he doesn't find those arguments a convincing reason to believe in Islam, then there's no reason I should find them a convincing reason to believe in Christianity.

Seriously, I've explained this like four times now. It's not a difficult concept. Why is it so hard for you people to understand?

As I said earlier: Willful ignorance.

I am willing to disbelieve what the Koran teaches, but that won't land me in hell.

You don't know that.

[Dyakovo]

Yes, I KNOW. The bible has supporting documents.

Waht's a supporting document for the ten commandments?

The First and Second Commandments spoke of by Jesus in the New Testament.


http://members.datafast.net.au/sggram/f967.htm

Sorry, the bible is not supporting evidence of itself.

[Dyakovo]

Click the link I just added to that post

I don't get it?

Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:55 pm

Mhema the Strong wrote:Yes, I KNOW. The bible has supporting documents.



Waht's a supporting document for the ten commandments?


When Jesus was asked, "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?" he replied, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind' - this is the great and foremost commandment, and there is a second like it, 'You shall love your neighbour as yourself'. The whole Law and Prophets hang on these two commands." (Mtt 22:37-40, Mrk 12:28-34).

Again, the bible is not supporting evidence of itself.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

Jesus Dyokovo, how many times can you post in row?

[Dyakovo]

The doctors had no explanation to her recovery. She was going to DIE. Her lungs had COLLAPSED. Yet, she went home, ALIVE.

Medicine is not as precise of a science as you seem to think it is.

IS IT JUST A COINCEDENCE THEN THAT RIGHT AFTER THE ANGEL APPEARED THAT SHE HEALED????????!!!!!!!!!!!

Not an angel, and yes it is a coincidence.

[Bacteriany]

christians don't base their ideologies on reason, they base it on tradition. Most christians have it hammered into their heads from age 1 that gays are evil and that christians must oppose them with every ounce of resolve they possess, or something irrefutably horrible will happen.

In short, they just do as they're told.

Oh shut up. Even athiests like me get grossed out when i see two benders kissing.

[New Kereptica]

christians don't base their ideologies on reason, they base it on tradition. Most christians have it hammered into their heads from age 1 that gays are evil and that christians must oppose them with every ounce of resolve they possess, or something irrefutably horrible will happen.

In short, they just do as they're told.

Oh shut up. Even athiests like me get grossed out when i see two benders kissing.

What's a bender?

[Buffett and Colbert]

christians don't base their ideologies on reason, they base it on tradition. Most christians have it hammered into their heads from age 1 that gays are evil and that christians must oppose them with every ounce of resolve they possess, or something irrefutably horrible will happen.

In short, they just do as they're told.

Oh shut up. Even athiests like me get grossed out when i see two benders kissing.

What's a bender?

I was about to ask the same thing...

[Dyakovo]

Jesus Dyokovo, how many times can you post in row?

I was catching up...

[United Marktoria]

christians don't base their ideologies on reason, they base it on tradition. Most christians have it hammered into their heads from age 1 that gays are evil and that christians must oppose them with every ounce of resolve they possess, or something irrefutably horrible will happen.

In short, they just do as they're told.

Oh shut up. Even athiests like me get grossed out when i see two benders kissing.

What's a bender?

I was about to ask the same thing...

I have never heard the term "bender" before.