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What do you think of same-sex church wedding ceremonies?

Postby Fasternia » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:08 am

I personally believe that:

- The Christian definition marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible, only for a man and a woman. Thus churches should not wed same-sex couples.
- But I don't mind if the civil marriages of same-sex couples go through, though.
- I have nothing against homosexuals.

And let me guess: Now you call me a homophobic. I hear that quite a lot for my opinion. Well guess what? I think it's illogical.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:10 am

Fasternia wrote:I don't quite understand this. I personally believe that:

- Marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible, only for a man and a woman. Thus churches should not wed same-sex couples.
- Civil marriage is a contract between two people. Are contracts a human right? Nope.
- But I don't mind if the civil marriages of same-sex couples go through, though. As long as they don't wed in churches.
- I have nothing against homosexuals, but I don't think they should get married, at least in churches.

And let me guess: Now you call me a racist bastard who discriminates homosexuals. I hear that quite a lot for my opinion.

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:12 am

Fasternia wrote:And let me guess: Now you call me a racist bastard who discriminates homosexuals. I hear that quite a lot for my opinion. Well guess what? Don't YOU discriminate ME for my religious opinion?


Why pre-empt what people are going to say with such a ridiculous sentence? Why would any one call you racist? It is almost like you are inviting people to react angrily towards you. If you want a serious discussion write a serious OP.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:12 am

Fasternia wrote:I don't quite understand this. I personally believe that:

- Marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible, only for a man and a woman. Thus churches should not wed same-sex couples.
- Civil marriage is a contract between two people. Are contracts a human right? Nope.
- But I don't mind if the civil marriages of same-sex couples go through, though. As long as they don't wed in churches.
- I have nothing against homosexuals, but I don't think they should get married, at least in churches.

And let me guess: Now you call me a racist bastard who discriminates homosexuals. I hear that quite a lot for my opinion. Well guess what? Don't YOU discriminate ME for my religious opinion?


We're not discriminating against you. You're free to call marriages between people of the same sex abominations till you're blue in the face.

You simply don't get to keep them from being recognized by a secular government.

That's all. Carry on with your life.

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Postby Fasternia » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:12 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Fasternia wrote:I don't quite understand this. I personally believe that:

- Marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible, only for a man and a woman. Thus churches should not wed same-sex couples.
- Civil marriage is a contract between two people. Are contracts a human right? Nope.
- But I don't mind if the civil marriages of same-sex couples go through, though. As long as they don't wed in churches.
- I have nothing against homosexuals, but I don't think they should get married, at least in churches.

And let me guess: Now you call me a racist bastard who discriminates homosexuals. I hear that quite a lot for my opinion.

Marriage existed before your magic sky faerie was dreamed up.


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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:14 am

Fasternia wrote:- Marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible, only for a man and a woman. Thus churches should not wed same-sex couples.


have you read the bible

be honest

Well guess what? Don't YOU discriminate ME for my religious opinion?


depends. are people discriminating against you by being mean to you on the internet or are they excluding you from certain legal processes or burning down your churches and proclaiming the neo-soviet union? your answer to this will depend on my answer to that.
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Postby Benburger » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:14 am

Marriage is between either way, however i believe Adam would've Married Steve.

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Postby Myrensis » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:15 am

Fasternia wrote:I don't quite understand this. I personally believe that:

- Marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible, only for a man and a woman. Thus churches should not wed same-sex couples.
- Civil marriage is a contract between two people. Are contracts a human right? Nope.
- But I don't mind if the civil marriages of same-sex couples go through, though. As long as they don't wed in churches.
- I have nothing against homosexuals, but I don't think they should get married, at least in churches.

And let me guess: Now you call me a racist bastard who discriminates homosexuals. I hear that quite a lot for my opinion. Well guess what? Don't YOU discriminate ME for my religious opinion?


One wonders how all the various people who don't follow the Bible, and who came before the Bible, manage to get married then. :(

I don't mind if religious marriages of opposite sex couples go through, as long as they don't get any of the benefits of a civil marriage.

Also, you're a racist bastard who discriminates against homosexuals.

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Postby Northern Dantika » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:15 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Fasternia wrote:I don't quite understand this. I personally believe that:

- Marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible, only for a man and a woman. Thus churches should not wed same-sex couples.
- Civil marriage is a contract between two people. Are contracts a human right? Nope.
- But I don't mind if the civil marriages of same-sex couples go through, though. As long as they don't wed in churches.
- I have nothing against homosexuals, but I don't think they should get married, at least in churches.

And let me guess: Now you call me a racist bastard who discriminates homosexuals. I hear that quite a lot for my opinion.

Marriage existed before your magic sky faerie was dreamed up.

Being that you're gay, aren't you the fairy?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:15 am

Fasternia wrote:- Marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible,

Bible did not invent marriage.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:17 am

Northern Dantika wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Marriage existed before your magic sky faerie was dreamed up.

Being that you're gay, aren't you the fairy?

Why would you assume I'm homosexual?
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Postby Italian League » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:18 am

Fasternia wrote:I don't quite understand this. I personally believe that:

- Marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible, only for a man and a woman. Thus churches should not wed same-sex couples.
- Civil marriage is a contract between two people. Are contracts a human right? Nope.
- But I don't mind if the civil marriages of same-sex couples go through, though. As long as they don't wed in churches.
- I have nothing against homosexuals, but I don't think they should get married, at least in churches.

And let me guess: Now you call me a racist bastard someone who discriminates homosexuals. I hear that quite a lot for my opinion. Well guess what? Don't YOU discriminate ME for my religious opinion?



Where is marriage defined in Scripture?

In order to be a racist bastard you'd have to espouse racist nonsense. This opinion on homosexual marriage isn't based upon race, is it?

Why do YOU assume I am discriminating against you by stating an alternative religious opinion?
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Postby Myrensis » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:19 am

Dyakovo wrote:Why would you assume I'm homosexual?


Obviously only the gays think gays ought to have rights.

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Postby Mizrad » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:19 am

Because marriage in general is viewed as a human right. Just because most marriages have to do with religion doesn't mean that a band of Flying Spaghetti Monsters [Or God, Allah and so on] have complete control over it and dictate what happens over it.
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Postby Gandoor » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:19 am

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Northern Dantika wrote:Being that you're gay, aren't you the fairy?

Why would you assume I'm homosexual?

Because anyone who supports gay rights is obviously a fruit-loving fairy~
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:21 am

Gandoor wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Why would you assume I'm homosexual?

Because anyone who supports gay rights is obviously a fruit-loving fairy~

Well, I do like fruit... ;)
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Postby Italian League » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:21 am

Gandoor wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Why would you assume I'm homosexual?

Because anyone who supports gay rights is obviously a fruit-loving fairy~


You mean... we can be converted? I can finally throw amazing parties and dance without looking like I'm having seizures now? I'm in.
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Postby Mizrad » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:21 am

Gandoor wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Why would you assume I'm homosexual?

Because anyone who supports gay rights is obviously a fruit-loving fairy~


And anybody who derails a thread is just some annoying jackass who doesn't belong. Stay on topic please.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:21 am

Myrensis wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Why would you assume I'm homosexual?


Obviously only the gays think gays ought to have rights.


Crap, I'm gay?

Time to have an awkward talk with the wife.

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Postby Qahadim » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:21 am

Fasternia wrote:I don't quite understand this. I personally believe that:

- Marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible, only for a man and a woman. Thus churches should not wed same-sex couples.
- Civil marriage is a contract between two people. Are contracts a human right? Nope.
- But I don't mind if the civil marriages of same-sex couples go through, though. As long as they don't wed in churches.
- I have nothing against homosexuals, but I don't think they should get married, at least in churches.

And let me guess: Now you call me a racist bastard someone who discriminates homosexuals. I hear that quite a lot for my opinion. Well guess what? Don't YOU discriminate ME for my religious opinion?

Ok, which government is forcing churches to marry homosexuals?

Secondly, there are churches that are willing to marry homosexuals. They even let them join!

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Postby Ermarian » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:22 am

Fasternia wrote:Marriage is a holy constitution defined in the Bible, only for a man and a woman.


Okay a) wrong. It's not "a" man and "a" woman; the bible makes frequent references to polygamy all over the place.

b) "Marriage" isn't protected by trademark. A religious organization may refuse to marry people (without even losing its public funding, paid for by the very people it discriminates against), but it doesn't get to prevent anyone else from calling something a marriage. You wouldn't like it if [insert whichever denomination of Christianity you don't follow] had a monopoly on the term "marriage" - or even "baptism", "funeral", etc. - and defined it in a way you don't like?
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Postby Gandoor » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:22 am

Mizrad wrote:
Gandoor wrote:Because anyone who supports gay rights is obviously a fruit-loving fairy~


And anybody who derails a thread is just some annoying jackass who doesn't belong. Stay on topic please.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:23 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Obviously only the gays think gays ought to have rights.


Crap, I'm gay?

Time to have an awkward talk with the wife.

I already heard. >:(
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Postby Holy Empire of Avalon » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:24 am

Benburger wrote:Marriage is between either way, however i believe Adam would've Married Steve.


Just saying Sir or Madam, but if I was Adam, I would rather grab Eve and not Steve.
Also being as sex had to be invented someway Adam would have had to screw Eve,because last I checked two outties don't make a baby, but now a Penis and a Vagina make babies all day long or you know how ever long the people have energy for. Thank you for stating your opinion though.
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