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Postby Camelza » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:49 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
The IASM wrote:Actually it is the states.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Nazi family law, or something similar.

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:50 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:No, it's when people make others feel bad, disgusting, damaged, immoral, or stupid, etc. for having sex, sometimes for having sex at all, sometimes for having sex with multiple people, etc.
A good example is when people talk about how "loose" a girl is*, or when abstinence educators tell girls they're "like a bandaid" and the more people they have sex with "the dirtier and less sticky they become."

*WOMEN DO NOT GEt LOOSER AFTER HAVING SEX. Vaginas are exceptionally stretchy, and if a baby can pop out and a woman can go back to normal, no number of penises can make a woman loose. Some women are naturally tighter than others, particularly when they are young, and some are naturally more "loose," particularly during old age, but this has nothing to do with how much sex they have had.

I suppose this is what I get for retiring as a goddess. Tsk. And I did go back and read the definition linked in the OP. Feel bad for enjoying sex? I think not.

Is it not fucking ridiculous? Why should someone be made to feel bad because they put things in places?
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:51 am

Camelza wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:What the fuck are you talking about?

Nazi family law, or something similar.

HEIL HITLER, I HEAR YOU HAD SEX THREE WEEKS AGO BUT YOUR WIFE IS NOT PREGNANT. YOU ARE SET TO BE BEHEADED IN 30 MINUTES.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:51 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:So in recap: Sex is fine. Not have sex is fine. Your sexual life is none of anyone's business and no one should judge people for their sexual life.

*judges you*
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:52 am

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Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:So in recap: Sex is fine. Not have sex is fine. Your sexual life is none of anyone's business and no one should judge people for their sexual life.

*judges you*

wanna be partner 21, bby? ;)
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:52 am

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Grenartia wrote:
Prove that sex for pleasure is consistently (read: always) as damaging to the body as hardcore drugs like meth or cocaine, and you might have a point.



It hinders the productive potential of humans to be slaves. From what I remember of IASM's bullshit, that's basically their wet dream for all of humanity. Some sort of mega-fascist government enslaving everybody. Really only somebody with problems would think such a system is a good thing.

1. Sex is not directly harmful however the illnesses it spreads are extremely bad for the body - take AIDS for example.

2. Actually it is logical as some of the most successful creatures on the planet live in such a fashion - the ants. 3. They live in complex social structures which can exist for years unharmed, 4. every solider will lay down its life to protect the colony. 5. That is what I want for society - something that works with a few alternations.


1. Yes, and all other forms of direct human contact can transmit diseases. Hell, you can get the flu just by being NEAR somebody with it. Does the risk of contracting a disease mean we should put everybody into fucking bubbles like in the Matrix (Rhetorical question. I know already the answer is going to be "yes".)?

2. People aren't ants. Just because a few groups of animals are particularly adapted to a way of life, does not at all mean that a totally different group of animals are, or should be adapted to it. This should be plainly fucking obvious.

3. Implying that human societies don't.

4. That works for the ants, but not necessarily always for people. Again, this should be plainly obvious.

5. That already exists, more or less. What you're proposing goes way beyond that, into almost quite literally, the Matrix.

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Camelza wrote:Sense, you don't make it laddie.

Actually I do, I've emotions - I just act on what is rational.


Slavery is not rational.

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Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:So you want to enslave people. Make their lives miserable.
Yeah, no. Go away.

And after over 20 partners, thousands of individual sex acts, and a variety of masturbatory devices AND being a porn actress myself, I have yet to feel a single negative thing from sex because condoms fucking exist.

1. My mind feels like killing you right now if I had the chance however I won't because truly you are not worth it. 2. I wish the best for people not to force them into some dystopia, 3. I've seen many examples of successful societies similar to mine and 4. there is nothing saying that they won't work. 5. Pornograpghy is a waste of time and so was several years of your life effectively. 6. Porn does not bring constant pleasure and neither does sex.


1. That's certainly a rational train of thought. Kill people that disagree with you. Brilliant. That's never served anybody wrong. :roll:

2. And yet you advocate for it.

3. No, I can guarantee you that outside of fiction, you've never seen a successful society similar to yours, save in a very small scale (relative to what you advocate).

4. Except all standards of human dignity.

5. Yeah, insult people and tell them they're wasting their lives, and tell them you want to kill them. That'll certainly convince people to your way of thinking. :roll:

Seriously, though. In my (admittedly amateur) opinion, you should get yourself checked out, as you sound like you have some sort of personality disorder. Blatant disregard for the dignity of others, and an admitted desire to kill those who clash with your worldview being the key red flags. I'm not saying that as any kind of personal attack. I am concerned that you could very well be a danger to others.

6. And? Your point is? NOTHING brings constant pleasure.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:53 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:*judges you*

wanna be partner 21, bby? ;)

Nope.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:54 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:wanna be partner 21, bby? ;)

Nope.

You can bring your lady, too.
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Postby Mkuki » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:54 am

Camelza wrote:
Mkuki wrote:You'd think that would be obvious.

Alas, team social conservatism disagrees.

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:54 am

Mkuki wrote:
Camelza wrote:Alas, team social conservatism disagrees.

S.C. is like Phil Mickelson. They never win.

I nearly pissed myself laughing.
(Golf :clap: )
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Postby Camelza » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:56 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Camelza wrote:Nazi family law, or something similar.

HEIL HITLER, I HEAR YOU HAD SEX THREE WEEKS AGO BUT YOUR WIFE IS NOT PREGNANT. YOU ARE SET TO BE BEHEADED IN 30 MINUTES.

ONLY 2 CHILDREN IN 5 YEARS? THE FATHERLAND NEEDS SOLDIERS, IF YOU FAIL TO PRODUCE THE REQUIRED HUMAN RESOURCES WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME YOU'LL HAVE TO BE DELETED! HEIL HITLER!
Mkuki wrote:
Camelza wrote:Alas, team social conservatism disagrees.

S.C. is like Phil Mickelson. They never win.

Thank god! :p
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:57 am

Camelza wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:HEIL HITLER, I HEAR YOU HAD SEX THREE WEEKS AGO BUT YOUR WIFE IS NOT PREGNANT. YOU ARE SET TO BE BEHEADED IN 30 MINUTES.

ONLY 2 CHILDREN IN 5 YEARS? THE FATHERLAND NEEDS SOLDIERS, IF YOU FAIL TO PRODUCE THE REQUIRED HUMAN RESOURCES WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME YOU'LL HAVE TO BE DELETED! HEIL HITLER!

HAVE YOU READ "MEIN KAMPF" TO YOUR NEWBORN YET? NO? EXTERMINATE!
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:58 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Nope.

You can bring your lady, too.

She says no
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:59 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:You can bring your lady, too.

She says no

But I have vibrating things!
*pouts in corner*
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Postby Tsaraine » Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:59 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:HAVE YOU READ "MEIN KAMPF" TO YOUR NEWBORN YET? NO? EXTERMINATE!


Thank you, Torcularis ... now I have an image of a Dalek screaming "EJACULATE! E-JAC-U-LAAAATE!"

I think I need a Doctor now.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:00 am

Tsaraine wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:HAVE YOU READ "MEIN KAMPF" TO YOUR NEWBORN YET? NO? EXTERMINATE!


Thank you, Torcularis ... now I have an image of a Dalek screaming "EJACULATE! E-JAC-U-LAAAATE!"

I think I need a Doctor now.

:rofl:
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:00 am

Tsaraine wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:HAVE YOU READ "MEIN KAMPF" TO YOUR NEWBORN YET? NO? EXTERMINATE!


Thank you, Torcularis ... now I have an image of a Dalek screaming "EJACULATE! E-JAC-U-LAAAATE!"

I think I need a Doctor now.

Which one?
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:01 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:She says no

But I have vibrating things!
*pouts in corner*


I wouldn't mind being in his place... :blush:
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Postby Mkuki » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:01 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Camelza wrote:ONLY 2 CHILDREN IN 5 YEARS? THE FATHERLAND NEEDS SOLDIERS, IF YOU FAIL TO PRODUCE THE REQUIRED HUMAN RESOURCES WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME YOU'LL HAVE TO BE DELETED! HEIL HITLER!

HAVE YOU READ "MEIN KAMPF" TO YOUR NEWBORN YET? NO? EXTERMINATE!

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:02 am

Tsaraine wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:HAVE YOU READ "MEIN KAMPF" TO YOUR NEWBORN YET? NO? EXTERMINATE!


Thank you, Torcularis ... now I have an image of a Dalek screaming "EJACULATE! E-JAC-U-LAAAATE!"

I think I need a Doctor now.


^sigging and AQing.
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Postby Camelza » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:02 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Camelza wrote:ONLY 2 CHILDREN IN 5 YEARS? THE FATHERLAND NEEDS SOLDIERS, IF YOU FAIL TO PRODUCE THE REQUIRED HUMAN RESOURCES WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME YOU'LL HAVE TO BE DELETED! HEIL HITLER!

HAVE YOU READ "MEIN KAMPF" TO YOUR NEWBORN YET? NO? EXTERMINATE!

YOU ACT CARING AND LOVING TO YOUR CHILD MAKING HIM FEEBLE AND MEEK? DESTROY!

Nazis remind me of Daleks now...
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:07 am

Tsaraine wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:HAVE YOU READ "MEIN KAMPF" TO YOUR NEWBORN YET? NO? EXTERMINATE!


Thank you, Torcularis ... now I have an image of a Dalek screaming "EJACULATE! E-JAC-U-LAAAATE!"

I think I need a Doctor now.

The doctor stared unwaveringly at the Dalek. He knew the horrors that were about to come to Earth, but he could not stop it. He was too late. He grasped his companion's hand, trying to be reassuring but his clamy skin made tears come to her eyes and she realized it was over.
The dalek'smetal body shivered and shuddered, a hum growing from it's insides. The hum grew and grew until it was screaming, one long monotonous scream. It's telescopic manipulation arm was swinging violently in the direction of the doctor and his companion, rapidly pulsating as the heated metal bubbled and bent in ritualistic timing. Finally it's screaming ceased, but only for a second. Then, with all of it's might, it shouted out the words the doctor never wanted to hear from a Dalek. "EJACULATE! EEEE-JAAAA-CUUUU-LAAAATE!"
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Furious Grandmothers wrote:Why are you talking about murder when we are talking about abortion? Murdering a fetus is impossible. It's like smelling an echo. You're not making sense.



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Postby Camelza » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:12 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Tsaraine wrote:
Thank you, Torcularis ... now I have an image of a Dalek screaming "EJACULATE! E-JAC-U-LAAAATE!"

I think I need a Doctor now.

The doctor stared unwaveringly at the Dalek. He knew the horrors that were about to come to Earth, but he could not stop it. He was too late. He grasped his companion's hand, trying to be reassuring but his clamy skin made tears come to her eyes and she realized it was over.
The dalek'smetal body shivered and shuddered, a hum growing from it's insides. The hum grew and grew until it was screaming, one long monotonous scream. It's telescopic manipulation arm was swinging violently in the direction of the doctor and his companion, rapidly pulsating as the heated metal bubbled and bent in ritualistic timing. Finally it's screaming ceased, but only for a second. Then, with all of it's might, it shouted out the words the doctor never wanted to hear from a Dalek. "EJACULATE! EEEE-JAAAA-CUUUU-LAAAATE!"

You're a truly great writer.

I support Dalek x Doctor.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:13 am

Camelza wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:The doctor stared unwaveringly at the Dalek. He knew the horrors that were about to come to Earth, but he could not stop it. He was too late. He grasped his companion's hand, trying to be reassuring but his clamy skin made tears come to her eyes and she realized it was over.
The dalek'smetal body shivered and shuddered, a hum growing from it's insides. The hum grew and grew until it was screaming, one long monotonous scream. It's telescopic manipulation arm was swinging violently in the direction of the doctor and his companion, rapidly pulsating as the heated metal bubbled and bent in ritualistic timing. Finally it's screaming ceased, but only for a second. Then, with all of it's might, it shouted out the words the doctor never wanted to hear from a Dalek. "EJACULATE! EEEE-JAAAA-CUUUU-LAAAATE!"

You're a truly great writer.

I support Dalek x Doctor.

I've been at this writing shit for so long, I'm ashamed I'm not better.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:14 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:She says no

But I have vibrating things!
*pouts in corner*

Right now she's pissed at me because of your offer.
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