Do you recognize Kosovo?

[Blazedtown]

No, its part of Yugoslavia. Zombie Tito '14.

[Brabrantium]

No. No more European States. I've had it up to here with having to learn the geography and history of the World's 2nd smallest continent. Why can't you guys just have 3 countries, like North America, or 1 like Australia.

Europe is the most active continent ever

[Dokuritsu Nippon]

I really rather wish it was just Yugoslavia so we wouldn't have to deal with this ultra-nationalistic madness on all sides.

[Brabrantium]

It is the late age of Independence! Free all the nations as you can!


It might porbably not be a good idea to have so many freaking nations in europe though. It might start an free-for-all conquest of europe or something

[Neo Arcad]

There are too many nations. We need to put Yugoslavia back together so I don't have to remember as many capitals.

[Shnercropolis]

I don't know anyone named Kosovo, so I don't think I'd be able to recognize their face.

[The Free and Just Republic of Freedomol]

US recognizes it, therefore it is a country. I know that's a very america-centrist worldview, but having the most powerful military (although not necessarily economic) superpower back you up is a pretty good argument for statehood.

[Novo Canuckia]

It does when their country has truly caused 2 World Wars, the problem in the Middle East, and conflicts in the Balkans. Let's face it the Serbs are trouble makers.

So... Should we bomb the Americans then? Last time I checked they caused more trouble around the world than the Serbs did. Or maybe we should bomb the Germans for the Holocaust? How about the Spanish? They slaughtered an entire continent!

Also I have no idea how it could possible be conceived that Serbia started the 2nd World War or all this nonsense in the Middle East.

Personally, being of Serb decent myself, I think the land should still be Serbian. For you Americans out there, how would you feel if Texas wanted to be it's own country? For the French, how about Alsace? Both of those countries have fought and lost a lot of people fighting for that land, how would you like if it separated then you had someone hang the threat of being bombed into oblivion *AGAIN* over your head if you tried to reclaim it? It's no different for Serbia. In both World Wars they fought to own that land. Thousands of Serbs died their trying to save their country, their religion, their way of life from the Turkish invaders.

Obviously it would be ideal if all the South Slavic people could put aside their ridiculous enmity towards each other and form one nation. However, until they get another leader who has enough respect for the others to unite them all, I can't see things getting any better. Especially with the U.S. hanging over their heads stopping them resolving their issues in their own way, and taking sides in conflicts which in no way concern them.

PS: Union of Democratic Socialists, you keep saying Serbia should have been punished in 1914. They were Punished. They lost over half of their population to the fighting, the disease, the starvation caused by the war that the Allies refused to help them in. They had to fight one of the top five most powerful nations in Europe alone, after already fighting wars with the Turks and The Bulgarians. Plus the Bulgarians jumped on the chance to take Serbian land for themselves, forcing Serbia to fight them as well. Also, they were Punished for 500 years before 1914, being forced to serve a corrupt, backwards nation. I'd say that's punishment enough for whatever crimes they mat or may not have committed. I can think of countries which have committed far worse crimes then the Serbs ever have, but they still elude punishment. So why the hatred towards a people who have suffered more than any other nation in Europe?

[United States of Raptors]

It does when their country has truly caused 2 World Wars, the problem in the Middle East, and conflicts in the Balkans. Let's face it the Serbs are trouble makers.

Wait, are you seriously arguing that Serbia caused 2 World Wars?

Didn't the Serbians assassinate the Austrian heir?

Germany and Austria were allied during the first world war which they lost and Germany got butt hurt over it thus world war two.

Serbia was an allied power, Germany and Austria were centeral powers.

So yes in a way they did cause one world war and thus indirectly caused the second one.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Wait, are you seriously arguing that Serbia caused 2 World Wars?

Didn't the Serbians assassinate the Austrian heir?

Germany and Austria were allied during the first world war which they lost and Germany got butt hurt over it thus world war two.

Serbia was an allied power, Germany and Austria were centeral powers.

So yes in a way they did cause one world war and thus indirectly caused the second one.

A serbian assassinated Franz Ferdinand. Not Serbia. He was actually a bosnian serb, anyways. A small group of extremists do not represent an entire people.

[Neo Arcad]

Didn't the Serbians assassinate the Austrian heir?

Germany and Austria were allied during the first world war which they lost and Germany got butt hurt over it thus world war two.

Serbia was an allied power, Germany and Austria were centeral powers.

So yes in a way they did cause one world war and thus indirectly caused the second one.

A serbian assassinated Franz Ferdinand. Not Serbia. He was actually a bosnian serb, anyways. A small group of extremists do not represent an entire people.

Except when they're backed by the nation of Serbia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_(Serbia)

[New Rogernomics]

Kosovo is already recognized.

[North Stradia]

I support self-determination. Free Kosovo!

[United States of Raptors]

A serbian assassinated Franz Ferdinand. Not Serbia. He was actually a bosnian serb, anyways. A small group of extremists do not represent an entire people.

Except when they're backed by the nation of Serbia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_(Serbia)

Twas bout to mention the possibility but you beat me to the punch.

[Central Slavia]

Kosovo is a part of Serbia, to a much greater extent than, say, Northern Ireland is a part of the UK.
I will never recognise this criminal pseudocountry as a legit state, even the wallachian kingdom of the drunkard Polivka has more country status in my eyes.
And thankfuly, my country hasn't recognised it either.

[North Stradia]

Kosovo is a part of Serbia, to a much greater extent than, say, Northern Ireland is a part of the UK.
I will never recognise this criminal pseudocountry as a legit state, even the wallachian kingdom of the drunkard Polivka has more country status in my eyes.
And thankfuly, my country hasn't recognised it either.

Serbia is one of the worst countries in the world right now, aside from North Korea and a few others.

[New Rogernomics]

Kosovo is a part of Serbia, to a much greater extent than, say, Northern Ireland is a part of the UK.
I will never recognise this criminal pseudocountry as a legit state, even the wallachian kingdom of the drunkard Polivka has more country status in my eyes.
And thankfuly, my country hasn't recognised it either.

Serbia is one of the worst countries in the world right now, aside from North Korea and a few others.

No it isn't, at least it has a working democracy (and government), unlike Ukraine or Belarus.

[Vitaphone Racing]

There's a Serbia now? Isn't that still part of Yugoslavia?

[Pope Joan]

This is the Serbian homeland. I am told that all Serbs hope to be buried there when they die.

It was stolen from them by murderous squatters with the help and support of Serbia's old enemies, Croatia and Germany.

[North Stradia]

This is the Serbian homeland. I am told that all Serbs hope to be buried there when they die.

It was stolen from them by murderous squatters with the help and support of Serbia's old enemies, Croatia and Germany.

Yeah like 600 years ago... It's ethnically Albanian now and that's not going to change.

[Dyakovo]

Do you recognize Kosovo?

I'm not certain I could pick it out of a lineup...

In your opinion, should Kosovo be independent from Serbia?

On 17 February 2008 Kosovo declared itself independent from Serbia. It was recognized by many nations, including the U.S. and most of Europe. Serbia refuses to recognize Kosovo and still considers it part of its territory.

What are your guy's thoughts on Kosovo and its current situation?

Kosovo is independent imo.

[Caninope]

This is the Serbian homeland. I am told that all Serbs hope to be buried there when they die.

It was stolen from them by murderous squatters with the help and support of Serbia's old enemies, Croatia and Germany.

And I'm pretty sure my homeland is somewhere in the British Isles.

Doesn't mean I have any sort of a right to it. Kosovo is not ethnically Serbian, for the most part.

[Shofercia]

US recognizes it, therefore it is a country. I know that's a very america-centrist worldview, but having the most powerful military (although not necessarily economic) superpower back you up is a pretty good argument for statehood.

So, conversely, if US doesn't recognize you, you're not a state? Wanna tell that to Palestine?

Wait, are you seriously arguing that Serbia caused 2 World Wars?

Didn't the Serbians assassinate the Austrian heir?

Germany and Austria were allied during the first world war which they lost and Germany got butt hurt over it thus world war two.

Serbia was an allied power, Germany and Austria were centeral powers.

So yes in a way they did cause one world war and thus indirectly caused the second one.

Yes, but as I said before, the assassination was a mere catalyst. When you have 7 Empires going for Imperialism, and there's no more land to Imperialize, they'll find a reason to start a World War. And then blame it on Serbia. WWI could've been stopped numerous times. First, the European powers meet, and agree to keep the war confined to a certain region. Second, UK should've been very clear about their intentions to side with France. Third, Germany and Russia needed to communicate better amongst themselves; both could've simply agreed to limit the war to Serbia, but what does Russia do? Full mobilization. What does Germany do? Tell Austria they'll support it no matter what - the Black Check. Then...

In terms of the Second World War, Serbs had nothing to do with that. No one forced the Allies to impose the Treaty of Versailles on Germany. No one forced the Allies to be so damn appeasing when Germany broke the Treaty of Versailles. No one forced the Wiemar Government to go all Liberal on the people imprisoned, like Hitler. And so on...

Kosovo is a part of Serbia, to a much greater extent than, say, Northern Ireland is a part of the UK.
I will never recognise this criminal pseudocountry as a legit state, even the wallachian kingdom of the drunkard Polivka has more country status in my eyes.
And thankfuly, my country hasn't recognised it either.

Serbia is one of the worst countries in the world right now, aside from North Korea and a few others.

Oh noes! Serbia won't recognize a state that's trying to steal land from Serbia, (North Kosovo,) a state where kids want to grow up to be mafia dons. Serbia is teh ubah ebul!

[Xathranaar]

Wouldn't it be great if they could all just join the EU, have open borders, stop caring so much about who owned what piece of land 50-2000 years ago, and stop fighting each other?

[Terio]

Wouldn't it be great if they could all just join the EU, have open borders, stop caring so much about who owned what piece of land 50-2000 years ago, and stop fighting each other?

That would be great, but life is not that easy, sadly.