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Postby Homosexy » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:45 am

I've been reading a book called "The Purity Myth: How America's Obsession with Virginity is Hurting Young Women" and it's led me to make this thread. This books is about how the current (yes, current) obsession with purity is hurting women and sexually defining women to try and get us back to previous gender roles What do you all think of what we call "the virginity obsession" or "slut shaming"? When we think of a virgin, what are some words we think of: "clean", "pure", "virtuous", etc. Well then if someone is not a virgin (particularly women), what words must define them?: "dirty", "impure", "heathenish".

Some interesting things to look up are:
Purity Balls
The trailer for the Purity Myth documentary
Abstinence-only organizations

Some interesting quotes:
"You start off as a beautiful flower, every time you have sex, you take a petal and put it on the ground. Don't give your husband a bare stem." -The Purity Myth

"Your sexuality is a lollipop. When someone takes the wrapper off, licks it, and puts the wrapper back on, you are damaged." -The Purity Myth

(These quotes are from the book, quoting pro-virginity movements)

and more! if you want them. I can look in my book.


SO... What do you think?

EDIT: Just so y'all know, this book is AGAINST the virginity movement. It's not against virginity, but it is against the methods that are being used for women to stay "pure", etc.
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Postby Czechanada » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:50 am

Madame, this book seems to present anachronistic views that belong in the annals of history.

I do not normally advocate book-burning, but I may seem to make an exception here.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:51 am

Give us more examples.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:54 am

Homosexy wrote:I've been reading a book called "The Purity Myth: How America's Obsession with Virginity is Hurting Young Women" and it's led me to make this thread. This books is about how the current (yes, current) obsession with purity is hurting women and sexually defining women to try and get us back to previous gender roles What do you all think of what we call "the virginity obsession" or "slut shaming"? When we think of a virgin, what are some words we think of: "clean", "pure", "virtuous", etc. Well then if someone is not a virgin (particularly women), what words must define them?: "dirty", "impure", "heathenish".

Some interesting things to look up are:
Purity Balls
The trailer for the Purity Myth documentary
Abstinence-only organizations

Some interesting quotes:
"You start off as a beautiful flower, every time you have sex, you take a petal and put it on the ground. Don't give your husband a bare stem." -The Purity Myth

"Your sexuality is a lollipop. When someone takes the wrapper off, licks it, and puts the wrapper back on, you are damaged." -The Purity Myth

and more! if you want them. I can look in my book.


SO... What do you think?

When I hear "virgin" I think "unskilled"...
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Postby Raeyh » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:56 am

Virginity is the healthy path. The problem is people who shame their peers for not being virgins. There is no reason to risk your health for the sake of social acceptance.

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Postby Laerod » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:56 am

I think there needs to be less focus on virginity. What it inherently means is that someone is unpracticed at sex and that's mostly it. Everyone needs to be able to choose whether they want to pursue losing it or not and no one should shame them for being a "slut" or a "prude".

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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:58 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Homosexy wrote:I've been reading a book called "The Purity Myth: How America's Obsession with Virginity is Hurting Young Women" and it's led me to make this thread. This books is about how the current (yes, current) obsession with purity is hurting women and sexually defining women to try and get us back to previous gender roles What do you all think of what we call "the virginity obsession" or "slut shaming"? When we think of a virgin, what are some words we think of: "clean", "pure", "virtuous", etc. Well then if someone is not a virgin (particularly women), what words must define them?: "dirty", "impure", "heathenish".

Some interesting things to look up are:
Purity Balls
The trailer for the Purity Myth documentary
Abstinence-only organizations

Some interesting quotes:
"You start off as a beautiful flower, every time you have sex, you take a petal and put it on the ground. Don't give your husband a bare stem." -The Purity Myth

"Your sexuality is a lollipop. When someone takes the wrapper off, licks it, and puts the wrapper back on, you are damaged." -The Purity Myth

and more! if you want them. I can look in my book.


SO... What do you think?

When I hear "virgin" I think "unskilled"...

Unskilled olive oil?
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:59 am

When our country was founded, "wilderness" was thought of as a terrible thing, at worst lethal, at best useless, a waste of resources.

Only in the past hundred years or so has it been seen as something to be cherished.

Perhaps virginity is something similar. Some people are offended by it. Others take a more conservationist approach.
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:00 pm

when I think of virginity I tend to think stuffy and over zealous religiously
Those tend to be the only types pushing it
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:01 pm

I'd toss said book into the garbage can, and never look back.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:03 pm

I won't hold someone's amount of sexual activity against them. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a virgin, but nothing wrong with having a lot of sex either, if the risk of STDs is minimized or accepted by the participants.
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Postby New Octopucta » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:04 pm

It a sign of purity to some, and a sign of oppression to others. As long as neither group gets enough support to pressure others into accepting their view, I don't care what anyone thinks.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:04 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Homosexy wrote:I've been reading a book called "The Purity Myth: How America's Obsession with Virginity is Hurting Young Women" and it's led me to make this thread. This books is about how the current (yes, current) obsession with purity is hurting women and sexually defining women to try and get us back to previous gender roles What do you all think of what we call "the virginity obsession" or "slut shaming"? When we think of a virgin, what are some words we think of: "clean", "pure", "virtuous", etc. Well then if someone is not a virgin (particularly women), what words must define them?: "dirty", "impure", "heathenish".

Some interesting things to look up are:
Purity Balls
The trailer for the Purity Myth documentary
Abstinence-only organizations

Some interesting quotes:
"You start off as a beautiful flower, every time you have sex, you take a petal and put it on the ground. Don't give your husband a bare stem." -The Purity Myth

"Your sexuality is a lollipop. When someone takes the wrapper off, licks it, and puts the wrapper back on, you are damaged." -The Purity Myth

and more! if you want them. I can look in my book.


SO... What do you think?

When I hear "virgin" I think "unskilled"...

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Postby The God-Realm » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:05 pm

Shitty book.
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Postby New Octopucta » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:06 pm

Out of curiosity, was the book written by two different people with opposite views, or were the quotes listed examples of the book mocking the "pro-virginity" crowd?
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Postby Homosexy » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:08 pm

Purpelia wrote:Give us more examples.

I went and found my book, and here's some more information I found from what I've read so far:

A Pregnancy Resource Center of Northeast Ohio: an article titled "Take2" asks "Have you already unwrapped the priceless gift of virginity and given it away? Do you now feel like 'second hand goods' and no longer worthy to be cherished? Do you ever wish you could re-wrap it and give it only to your future husband?"
- This ad is for young women and men to go and take a pledge to be virgins again, and life a life of chastity from here on out.

Abstinence Clearinghouse's website

Middle School Girls Gone Wild: "They writhe and strut, shake their bottoms, splay their legs, thrust their chests out and in and out again. Some straddle empty chairs, like lap dancers without laps. They don't smile much. Their faces are locked from grim exertion, from all that leaping up and lying down without poles to hold onto. The girls spend a lot of time lying on the floor. They are in the sixth, seventh, and eighth grades."

"Virgins are hot" t-shirt slogan by Heritage Community Services

I could go on and on.
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Postby Kleomentia » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:09 pm

Since when is sex something dirty and unpure? I call bullshit on the book.
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Postby Homosexy » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:09 pm

New Octopucta wrote:Out of curiosity, was the book written by two different people with opposite views, or were the quotes listed examples of the book mocking the "pro-virginity" crowd?

Sorry I should have been more clear. The quotes are in the book, quoting other people who have actually said these things.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:10 pm

Homosexy wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Give us more examples.

I went and found my book, and here's some more information I found from what I've read so far:

A Pregnancy Resource Center of Northeast Ohio: an article titled "Take2" asks "Have you already unwrapped the priceless gift of virginity and given it away? Do you now feel like 'second hand goods' and no longer worthy to be cherished? Do you ever wish you could re-wrap it and give it only to your future husband?"
- This ad is for young women and men to go and take a pledge to be virgins again, and life a life of chastity from here on out.

Abstinence Clearinghouse's website

Middle School Girls Gone Wild: "They writhe and strut, shake their bottoms, splay their legs, thrust their chests out and in and out again. Some straddle empty chairs, like lap dancers without laps. They don't smile much. Their faces are locked from grim exertion, from all that leaping up and lying down without poles to hold onto. The girls spend a lot of time lying on the floor. They are in the sixth, seventh, and eighth grades."

"Virgins are hot" t-shirt slogan by Heritage Community Services

I could go on and on.

Just gonna point out that 'Virgins are hot' sounds just a bit pedo.

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Postby Homosexy » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:11 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Homosexy wrote:I went and found my book, and here's some more information I found from what I've read so far:

A Pregnancy Resource Center of Northeast Ohio: an article titled "Take2" asks "Have you already unwrapped the priceless gift of virginity and given it away? Do you now feel like 'second hand goods' and no longer worthy to be cherished? Do you ever wish you could re-wrap it and give it only to your future husband?"
- This ad is for young women and men to go and take a pledge to be virgins again, and life a life of chastity from here on out.

Abstinence Clearinghouse's website

Middle School Girls Gone Wild: "They writhe and strut, shake their bottoms, splay their legs, thrust their chests out and in and out again. Some straddle empty chairs, like lap dancers without laps. They don't smile much. Their faces are locked from grim exertion, from all that leaping up and lying down without poles to hold onto. The girls spend a lot of time lying on the floor. They are in the sixth, seventh, and eighth grades."

"Virgins are hot" t-shirt slogan by Heritage Community Services

I could go on and on.

Just gonna point out that 'Virgins are hot' sounds just a bit pedo.

Yes it does. And if you look up Purity Balls it's even creepier.
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Postby Laerod » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:11 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Homosexy wrote:I went and found my book, and here's some more information I found from what I've read so far:

A Pregnancy Resource Center of Northeast Ohio: an article titled "Take2" asks "Have you already unwrapped the priceless gift of virginity and given it away? Do you now feel like 'second hand goods' and no longer worthy to be cherished? Do you ever wish you could re-wrap it and give it only to your future husband?"
- This ad is for young women and men to go and take a pledge to be virgins again, and life a life of chastity from here on out.

Abstinence Clearinghouse's website

Middle School Girls Gone Wild: "They writhe and strut, shake their bottoms, splay their legs, thrust their chests out and in and out again. Some straddle empty chairs, like lap dancers without laps. They don't smile much. Their faces are locked from grim exertion, from all that leaping up and lying down without poles to hold onto. The girls spend a lot of time lying on the floor. They are in the sixth, seventh, and eighth grades."

"Virgins are hot" t-shirt slogan by Heritage Community Services

I could go on and on.

Just gonna point out that 'Virgins are hot' sounds just a bit pedo.

It also sounds like someone only sleeps with a person once and then drops them like a hot potato.

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Postby Raeyh » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:12 pm

Genivaria wrote:Just gonna point out that 'Virgins are hot' sounds just a bit pedo.


That's because virgin is synonymous with a girl who is too young to marry.

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Postby Laerod » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:13 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Just gonna point out that 'Virgins are hot' sounds just a bit pedo.


That's because virgin is synonymous with a girl who is too young to marry.

No it's not.

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Postby Kvatchdom » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:13 pm

How could we reproduce if all women want to be virgins while all men are blue balled? It's madness. Madness, I tell you.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:13 pm

Caring about whether someone has had sex or not is generally pretty weird.
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