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Postby Finium » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:12 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:by definition they are stereotypes of that culture :p

And? Stereotypes aren't necessarily derogatory.

I think that rich white stereotype under values the billionaires...
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Postby Forsher » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:24 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
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It's not very good, I thought it was presenting black women as sluts. Oh, well.

I wasn't sure what it was at all, several people (or maybe it was just one person?) said it was a gang member costume, I assumed they were basing it off of something other than a guess...


If you have to think about a costume, it's a bad costume. Unless, of course, that wasn't a costume and that's just what the person is like anyway.
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Postby Finium » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:31 pm

Forsher wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:I wasn't sure what it was at all, several people (or maybe it was just one person?) said it was a gang member costume, I assumed they were basing it off of something other than a guess...


If you have to think about a costume, it's a bad costume. Unless, of course, that wasn't a costume and that's just what the person is like anyway.

Yeah.. That moment when you realize that they're actually a reclusive and starkly pale man with pointy teeth... It makes you realize why so many people are superstitious.
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Postby Lord Tothe » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:44 am

basically, Halloween is when people dress up in silly costumes, and sometimes make fun of something in the process. I really think it's not a big deal unless they go out of their way to actually do something that actually harms an actual person. Did I use the words "actually" and "actual" enough there to differentiate between dressing silly and doing something harmful to someone? I hope so.
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Postby Delanshar » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:19 pm

I'm dressing up as a gorilla. The animal kingdom be damned!
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Postby Free South Califas » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:21 pm

Delanshar wrote:I'm dressing up as a gorilla. The animal kingdom be damned!


I hear the cats have planned a sit-in for solidarity.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:21 pm

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Postby Dead Macagafos » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:25 pm

wtf! this is not racist, this is just a costume!!!

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Postby Meryuma » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:04 pm



Not what I meant, also the communists were on the same side as us in WWII obviously.

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I think you just invented a fallacy.

How so?


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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:54 pm

Meryuma wrote:


Not what I meant, also the communists were on the same side as us in WWII obviously.

Dyakovo wrote:This should be amusing...
How so?


Discounting an argument because the person who brought it up didn't originally devise it.

I discounted using a url as an argument.
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Postby Free South Califas » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:56 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Meryuma wrote:
Not what I meant, also the communists were on the same side as us in WWII obviously.



Discounting an argument because the person who brought it up didn't originally devise it.

I discounted using a url as an argument.

...ze says, as if it adds or disputes any substantive meaning.
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:11 pm

Free South Califas wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:I discounted using a url as an argument.

...ze says, as if it adds or disputes any substantive meaning.

It does, if you want to make an argument, do so, don't just post a url.
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Postby Pragia » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:58 pm

Yes very racist, I'm going as a ghost with all my friends and set up crosses in people's yards.
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This is a bit rediculus, its freaking holloween, we can dress as we choose, if your offended by holloween costumes, that's sad.

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Postby Zaras » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:17 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Free South Califas wrote:...ze says, as if it adds or disputes any substantive meaning.

It does, if you want to make an argument, do so, don't just post a url.

If the url makes the argument better than you can, why not reference it?
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Postby Natair » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:14 am

Because it's not your argument, it's someone else's that you just happen to deal with. And I'm going as a Spartan (Halo, not Rome). Find racism in THAT.
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Postby Natair » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:14 am

Finium wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:And? Stereotypes aren't necessarily derogatory.

I think that rich white stereotype under values the billionaires...

And no, it doesn't undervalue them. It overvalues them.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:16 am

Natair wrote:Because it's not your argument, it's someone else's that you just happen to deal with. And I'm going as a Spartan (Halo, not Rome). Find racism in THAT.


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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:02 am

Natair wrote:And I'm going as a Spartan (Halo, not Rome)


You mean Greece? :eyebrow:
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Postby Arcadsland » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:05 am

Unless I'm being racist to faceless people then no.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:22 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:by definition they are stereotypes of that culture :p

And? Stereotypes aren't necessarily derogatory.

Agreed, but they are bigoted. Bigoted viewpoints do not have to be negative.

The concept of holding up an Indian as noble and keeper of the earth, is a bigoted outlook.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:24 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Meryuma wrote:
Not what I meant, also the communists were on the same side as us in WWII obviously.



Discounting an argument because the person who brought it up didn't originally devise it.

I discounted using a url as an argument.


i feel that way about you tube.
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Postby Galla- » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:27 am

Meryuma wrote:


Not what I meant, also the communists were on the same side as us in WWII obviously.


Debatable.

We did just get done having a war against the communists after all.
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Postby Zaras » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:07 am

Galla- wrote:
Meryuma wrote:
Not what I meant, also the communists were on the same side as us in WWII obviously.


Debatable.

We did just get done having a war against the communists after all.


Soviet Union wasn't communist.
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Postby Lord Tothe » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:04 pm

Zaras wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Debatable.

We did just get done having a war against the communists after all.


Soviet Union wasn't communist.

And the US isn't capitalist, but that is the terminology used by both nations.
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Postby Zaras » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:07 pm

Lord Tothe wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Soviet Union wasn't communist.

And the US isn't capitalist, but that is the terminology used by both nations.


I think you'll find the US is more credibly described as capitalist, whereas the Soviet Union's degenerated workers' state Stalinism is a bizarre perversion far removed from communism.
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