Texan secession

[Neu California]

For that to be true the Texas secession convention would have had to have federal approval which it did not, Making any documents drawn up at the time null and void in the United States.Just as any governing documents drawn up by the confederacy was rendered null and void as the confederacy was not a legit government.

Welcome to America *man locks door and two armed guards point gun at you* Now stay here like a good state and don't secede. You are one of us now.

Supremacy clause is a bitch, eh?

[Irentian]

What if instead all the Texans immigrated to another country?
and nobody wanted to move there? what would you do then? force them to come back to Texas?

The odds of this happening are so remote, that it's barely worth considering

Let us anyways.

[Agymnum]

For that to be true the Texas secession convention would have had to have federal approval which it did not, Making any documents drawn up at the time null and void in the United States.Just as any governing documents drawn up by the confederacy was rendered null and void as the confederacy was not a legit government.

Welcome to America *man locks door and two armed guards point gun at you* Now stay here like a good state and don't secede. You are one of us now.

That sums it up.

You think states have rights? Oh man, what world are you living in? This is America, brother, the states are our bitches.

[Zathganastan]

For that to be true the Texas secession convention would have had to have federal approval which it did not, Making any documents drawn up at the time null and void in the United States.Just as any governing documents drawn up by the confederacy was rendered null and void as the confederacy was not a legit government.

Welcome to America *man locks door and two armed guards point gun at you* Now stay here like a good state and don't secede. You are one of us now.

It's our own fault, we should have read the fine print when they told us that there was no leaving the Union once you joined.But yes that sum's it up rather nicely.

[Hungaristan]

He wouldn't be drunk, he's a moonshiner, and moonshiners can't afford to lose any of their product from drinking it.

Gives me more reason to burn his truck. Moonshine is illegal, and i'll burn those hillbillies for it.

Moonshine is not illegal, they sell it in Gatlingburg TN. It's illegal to sell it illegally. XD

[Irentian]

The odds of this happening are so remote, that it's barely worth considering

Same as Texan succession but we are on this topic aren't we?
Furthermore it is highly unlikely that Texas will secede, so why prevent it?

Ever hear the saying it started as an idea, then spread to a dream, which lead to a war? That's why!

[Nobodishal]

Here's my (short-ish) opinion as a born and raised Texan.

Texas has the infrastructure and resources to succeed in the case they secede, but the USA would NOT accept Texas becoming independent, nor would it improve our economic position. What would work o our advantage would be the federal government using ONLY the powers constitutionally delegated to it. Not that they'd do that.

(Off topic: If Puerto Rico gets accepted as a state, and Texas becomes an independent nation/US territory, the US can keep it's flag as-is.)

[Hungaristan]

Welcome to America *man locks door and two armed guards point gun at you* Now stay here like a good state and don't secede. You are one of us now.

It's our own fault, we should have read the fine print when they told us that there was no leaving the Union once you joined.But yes that sum's it up rather nicely.

Agreed.

[Irentian]

Gives me more reason to burn his truck. Moonshine is illegal, and i'll burn those hillbillies for it.

Moonshine is not illegal, they sell it in Gatlingburg TN. It's illegal to sell it illegally. XD

No other state allows it, well none in my area, because if you brew it wrong, it turns into a toxin that WILL kill you, but then again, TN was the birth place of hillbillies

[New Sapienta]

Here's my (short-ish) opinion as a born and raised Texan.

Texas has the infrastructure and resources to succeed in the case they secede, but the USA would NOT accept Texas becoming independent, nor would it improve our economic position. What would work o our advantage would be the federal government using ONLY the powers constitutionally delegated to it. Not that they'd do that.

(Off topic: If Puerto Rico gets accepted as a state, and Texas becomes an independent nation/US territory, the US can keep it's flag as-is.)

Most of that infastructure is federal, which is reason enough for war.

[Neu California]

Welcome to America *man locks door and two armed guards point gun at you* Now stay here like a good state and don't secede. You are one of us now.

Supremacy clause is a bitch, eh?

Wait, wrong clause. The Territorial clause is what I was thinking of

[Hungaristan]

Same as Texan succession but we are on this topic aren't we?
Furthermore it is highly unlikely that Texas will secede, so why prevent it?

Ever hear the saying it started as an idea, then spread to a dream, which lead to a war? That's why!

It isn't going to happen in modern day, because guess who is calling for succession? The people! Not the leaders of the state! No matter how many petitions are signed or protests happen! It just won't work.

[Agymnum]

Here's my (short-ish) opinion as a born and raised Texan.

Texas has the infrastructure and resources to succeed in the case they secede, but the USA would NOT accept Texas becoming independent, nor would it improve our economic position. What would work o our advantage would be the federal government using ONLY the powers constitutionally delegated to it. Not that they'd do that.

(Off topic: If Puerto Rico gets accepted as a state, and Texas becomes an independent nation/US territory, the US can keep it's flag as-is.)

Most of that infastructure is federal, which is reason enough for war.

Yeah. See, it's like this.

Texas has all these sandwiches the Feds gave them. What's that, Texas doesn't want to be friends with the Feds anymore?

We're gonna need those sandwiches back for our other friends. Sorry, bro.

[Death Metal]

For that to be true the Texas secession convention would have had to have federal approval which it did not, Making any documents drawn up at the time null and void in the United States.Just as any governing documents drawn up by the confederacy was rendered null and void as the confederacy was not a legit government.

Welcome to America *man locks door and two armed guards point gun at you* Now stay here like a good state and don't secede. You are one of us now.

I'm sorry, I forgot the part where America said "hey, we want out of the UK" and England was like "No prob, best of luck to ya".

Secessions tend to end in conflict. And last time it happened in America, the secessor started the conflict. So you'll understand if we're not to thrilled of the prospect of it happening again.

[Irentian]

Supremacy clause is a bitch, eh?

Wait, wrong clause. The Territorial clause is what I was thinking of

that's for territories like virgin islands, or puerto rico. We talkin bout state.

[Agymnum]

Welcome to America *man locks door and two armed guards point gun at you* Now stay here like a good state and don't secede. You are one of us now.

I'm sorry, I forgot the part where America said "hey, we want out of the UK" and England was like "No prob, best of luck to ya".

Secessions tend to end in conflict. And last time it happened in America, the secessor started the conflict. So you'll understand if we're not to thrilled of the prospect of it happening again.

Just saying, but England only let us go because we put up a decent fight.

Now, Texas vs. U.S. is just unfair. Texas would get rolled.

[Genivaria]

As a Texan I say hell no.

[Dyakovo]

Here's my (short-ish) opinion as a born and raised Texan.

Texas has the infrastructure and resources to succeed in the case they secede.

[Hungaristan]

Moonshine is not illegal, they sell it in Gatlingburg TN. It's illegal to sell it illegally. XD

No other state allows it, well none in my area, because if you brew it wrong, it turns into a toxin that WILL kill you, but then again, TN was the birth place of hillbillies

I take that offensive, for one, Knoxville is a largely electronic city. Nashville is the birthplace of rock and country.
I was born in Knoxville.

Also, Moonshiners do a better job at making it than most legal companies do.
Furthermore, if you made beer wrong, you could get sick as well

[Negaza]

We could use less racists and fat people. Not like they're all fat and racist, but they are the most racist and fat state in the US.

[Irentian]

Welcome to America *man locks door and two armed guards point gun at you* Now stay here like a good state and don't secede. You are one of us now.

I'm sorry, I forgot the part where America said "hey, we want out of the UK" and England was like "No prob, best of luck to ya".

Secessions tend to end in conflict. And last time it happened in America, the secessor started the conflict. So you'll understand if we're not to thrilled of the prospect of it happening again.

Also, I believe only around 30-40% supported the rebels, the rest supported britian or didn't care. Also, look at south sudan. Wanted to leave..... and ended in a civil war. Finally, gain their independence.

[Genivaria]

Here's my (short-ish) opinion as a born and raised Texan.

Texas has the infrastructure and resources to succeed in the case they secede.

An amusing myth is it not?

[Death Metal]

I'm sorry, I forgot the part where America said "hey, we want out of the UK" and England was like "No prob, best of luck to ya".

Secessions tend to end in conflict. And last time it happened in America, the secessor started the conflict. So you'll understand if we're not to thrilled of the prospect of it happening again.

Just saying, but England only let us go because we put up a decent fight.

Now, Texas vs. U.S. is just unfair. Texas would get rolled.

Nah, England lost because their soldiers had less on the line, plus the obvious issues of being so disjointed from their central leadership. Oh, and France's navy.

[Hungaristan]

Welcome to America *man locks door and two armed guards point gun at you* Now stay here like a good state and don't secede. You are one of us now.

I'm sorry, I forgot the part where America said "hey, we want out of the UK" and England was like "No prob, best of luck to ya".

Secessions tend to end in conflict. And last time it happened in America, the secessor started the conflict. So you'll understand if we're not to thrilled of the prospect of it happening again.

Exactly what I was implying, that it isn't right to use excessive force to keep a state here.

[Greed and Death]

If Texas wishes to leave you better just let us.